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hi,

just signed up here hopefully to get an answer to my problem... here's
wot happens...

windows xp will boot up, but then after 10 seconds (still loading the
stupid system tray stuff)... it will reboot n do it again!

u would think virus, but when the ethernet cable (for the
internet/network) is unplugged, the pc will be fine, ditto for
complete blocking off all net traffic with firewall...

it seems that lower settings on the firewall, make it take longer, eg
medium takes about half an hour...

the other intersting thing is... that it is my SATA harddrive that
shuts off, not an actual reboot, i know this because i disabled the
reboot on serious error option in windows.... and i can hear the
harddrive spin down, but the MB and graphic etc.. keep on
spinning...

haha it feels like sum1 is disconnecting my hdd remotely...

any help would be greatly appreciated.. ohh and this is a new machine,
and yes i have already tried reforrmatting it, still happens

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It isn't necessarily the internet doing this. Could be a bunch of other
things also.
You'll have to get the text of any error messages and post them here.

"bojo" wrote:

> hi,
>
> just signed up here hopefully to get an answer to my problem... here's
> wot happens...
>
> windows xp will boot up, but then after 10 seconds (still loading the
> stupid system tray stuff)... it will reboot n do it again!
>
> u would think virus, but when the ethernet cable (for the
> internet/network) is unplugged, the pc will be fine, ditto for
> complete blocking off all net traffic with firewall...
>
> it seems that lower settings on the firewall, make it take longer, eg
> medium takes about half an hour...
>
> the other intersting thing is... that it is my SATA harddrive that
> shuts off, not an actual reboot, i know this because i disabled the
> reboot on serious error option in windows.... and i can hear the
> harddrive spin down, but the MB and graphic etc.. keep on
> spinning...
>
> haha it feels like sum1 is disconnecting my hdd remotely...
>
>
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated.. ohh and this is a new machine,
> and yes i have already tried reforrmatting it, still happens
>
>

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Have a look in the event logs and see if there is any indication recorded
there of why it reboots.

Brian.

--
www.cryer.co.uk/brian


"bojo" <bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:CfXTe.314314$kM5.174853@fe01.news.easynews.com...
> hi,
>
> just signed up here hopefully to get an answer to my problem... here's
> wot happens...
>
> windows xp will boot up, but then after 10 seconds (still loading the
> stupid system tray stuff)... it will reboot n do it again!
>
> u would think virus, but when the ethernet cable (for the
> internet/network) is unplugged, the pc will be fine, ditto for
> complete blocking off all net traffic with firewall...
>
> it seems that lower settings on the firewall, make it take longer, eg
> medium takes about half an hour...
>
> the other intersting thing is... that it is my SATA harddrive that
> shuts off, not an actual reboot, i know this because i disabled the
> reboot on serious error option in windows.... and i can hear the
> harddrive spin down, but the MB and graphic etc.. keep on
> spinning...
>
> haha it feels like sum1 is disconnecting my hdd remotely...
>
>
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated.. ohh and this is a new machine,
> and yes i have already tried reforrmatting it, still happens
>

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bojo wrote:
>
> just signed up here hopefully to get an answer to my problem... here's
> wot happens...

Just
What

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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:45:06 GMT,
bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid (bojo) wrote:

>hi,
>
>just signed up here hopefully to get an answer to my problem... here's
>wot happens...
>
>windows xp will boot up, but then after 10 seconds (still loading the
>stupid system tray stuff)... it will reboot n do it again!
>
>u would think virus, but when the ethernet cable (for the
>internet/network) is unplugged, the pc will be fine, ditto for
>complete blocking off all net traffic with firewall...
>
>it seems that lower settings on the firewall, make it take longer, eg
>medium takes about half an hour...
>
>the other intersting thing is... that it is my SATA harddrive that
>shuts off, not an actual reboot, i know this because i disabled the
>reboot on serious error option in windows.... and i can hear the
>harddrive spin down, but the MB and graphic etc.. keep on
>spinning...
>
>haha it feels like sum1 is disconnecting my hdd remotely...
>
>
>
>any help would be greatly appreciated.. ohh and this is a new machine,
>and yes i have already tried reforrmatting it, still happens

This isn't a chat room. Please use entire words, punctuation and
proper capitalization. Once you learn all this, please repost in a
more civilized manner.

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"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:uom1i15kqnd8eg4jn5g1ltreeitfh0cj79@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:45:06 GMT,
> bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid (bojo) wrote:

<snip>

>
> This isn't a chat room. Please use entire words, punctuation and
> proper capitalization. Once you learn all this, please repost in a
> more civilized manner.
>

He got his message across. It was clear and understandable. Sure, proper
capitalization would be better, but it isn't a requirement for posting to a
newsgroup. I'm sure he would have appreciated a helpful comment rather than
an unnecessary ticking off about his sentence structure.

Brian.
--
www.cryer.co.uk/brian

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Well i am sorry, i am very used to just chatting, especially in forums
and i was very stressed at the time.

It does seem as if it was internet related, as i have installed a
better firewall, and have it always active,

How do i view the event logs?, i am going to try to replicate it, by
disabling the new firewall, i want to know what is happening and
why.

Thanks for your help,

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To view the event logs:
Start > Control Panel
(Traditional view)
Administrative Tools
Event Viewer
look in both the Application and System logs.

I wouldn't advise disabling your firewall. You lay yourself open to catching
all sorts of nasty things ...

Brian.

--
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"bojo" <bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:EseUe.278223$Jd.190322@fe11.news.easynews.com...
> Well i am sorry, i am very used to just chatting, especially in forums
> and i was very stressed at the time.
>
> It does seem as if it was internet related, as i have installed a
> better firewall, and have it always active,
>
> How do i view the event logs?, i am going to try to replicate it, by
> disabling the new firewall, i want to know what is happening and
> why.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>

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Well it's back again, even with the new firewall, it just happened
alot later than straight away.

There is a shitload of errors and warnings in the event viewer, DCOM,
Service control error, and system error, in the system section. There
are also many errors in the application part.

I cannot figure this out, it is bloody well annoying me, i thought i
pluged something up wrong, but the sheer randomness of it seems to
eliminate that.

Really getting annoyed now, it dosent make sense, why does a
connection to the internet cause this?

btw my lan is a onboard one, Abit N18 SLI motherboard. Im also using a
200GB western digital SATA2 Hdd.

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In article <w5hUe.366993$w74.78281@fe03.news.easynews.com>,
bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid says...
> Well it's back again, even with the new firewall, it just happened
> alot later than straight away.
>
> There is a shitload of errors and warnings in the event viewer, DCOM,
> Service control error, and system error, in the system section. There
> are also many errors in the application part.

What firewall are you using and why did you replace the last one?


You have two issues that could be the problem:

1) Virus / Malware - even if you think you've checked, check again using
a different VA product and run it in SAFE MODE

2) Hardware issues that are causing the problem.

You may have to wipe the machine and start over, doing it all updated
and behind a NAT appliance at the minimum to build a secure system.

Choose from the following links for AV and Antispyware products.

Only download software you can validate as uncompromised - in the case
of non-vendor site you have no guarantee that the files are unmodified
or uncompromised. Anyone providing a link to a non-vendors site with a
direct download should not be trusted, the vendors sites are the safest
place to download their application.

Also, do not post HiJack log files here - there are HiJack groups for
just that purpose, not to mention all the web based forums setup for
looking at them.

Always remember - only download files from Trusted Sites.

These sites are for downloading Anti-Spyware tools, in order that I
would use them myself:

AdAwareSE can be found here:
http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/

SpyBot Search and Destroy can be found here:
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html

Ewido Security Suite Trial can be found here:
http://www.ewido.net/en/download/

The following are two links to Antivirus software in order that I would
use them:

You can also download Symantec Trial version of their Antivirus software
from here:
http://www.symantec.com/downloads/

Download AVG Personal Free edition from here:
http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

These are the actual vendors sites, not some unknown or authorized no-
name site. They also don't artificially increase the hits for sites that
get paid for the amount of traffic they can generate like one poster has
admitted to in this group.

When running these application, install them, update them, then reboot
in SAFE MODE and run them again to get even more things.

If you take nothing else from this post, remember the following:

Only download files from Trusted Sites.


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"bojo" <bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:w5hUe.366993$w74.78281@fe03.news.easynews.com...
> Well it's back again, even with the new firewall, it just happened
> alot later than straight away.
>
> There is a shitload of errors and warnings in the event viewer, DCOM,
> Service control error, and system error, in the system section. There
> are also many errors in the application part.
>
> I cannot figure this out, it is bloody well annoying me, i thought i
> pluged something up wrong, but the sheer randomness of it seems to
> eliminate that.
>
> Really getting annoyed now, it dosent make sense, why does a
> connection to the internet cause this?
>
> btw my lan is a onboard one, Abit N18 SLI motherboard. Im also using a
> 200GB western digital SATA2 Hdd.

Can you post the errors you are seeing.

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:13:31 +0100, "Brian Cryer"
<brianc@127.0.0.1.activesol.co.uk> wrote:

>"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
>news:uom1i15kqnd8eg4jn5g1ltreeitfh0cj79@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:45:06 GMT,
>> bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid (bojo) wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>
>> This isn't a chat room. Please use entire words, punctuation and
>> proper capitalization. Once you learn all this, please repost in a
>> more civilized manner.
>>
>
>He got his message across. It was clear and understandable. Sure, proper
>capitalization would be better, but it isn't a requirement for posting to a
>newsgroup. I'm sure he would have appreciated a helpful comment rather than
>an unnecessary ticking off about his sentence structure.
>
> Brian.
I didn't even bother reading the message after the first few "words"
if "u want 2 call dem dat." I find cyberspeak, or whatever the chat
room idiots use, to be hard to read, hard on the eyes, and idiotic and
don't pay it any attention here in the newsgroups. If they want grown
up advice, they can ask like a grown up, not a 12 year old chat room
weenie.

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bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid (bojo) wrote in:

> hi,
>
> just signed up here hopefully to get an answer to my problem... here's
> wot happens...
>
> windows xp will boot up, but then after 10 seconds (still loading the
> stupid system tray stuff)... it will reboot n do it again!
>
> u would think virus, but when the ethernet cable (for the
> internet/network) is unplugged, the pc will be fine, ditto for
> complete blocking off all net traffic with firewall...
>
> it seems that lower settings on the firewall, make it take longer, eg
> medium takes about half an hour...
>
> the other intersting thing is... that it is my SATA harddrive that
> shuts off, not an actual reboot, i know this because i disabled the
> reboot on serious error option in windows.... and i can hear the
> harddrive spin down, but the MB and graphic etc.. keep on
> spinning...
>
> haha it feels like sum1 is disconnecting my hdd remotely...
>
>
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated.. ohh and this is a new machine,
> and yes i have already tried reforrmatting it, still happens

I know almost nothing about SATA as I don't use it but it sounds a little
like the HD isn't recognized. When you installed the OS did you use the F6
option to install the SATA drivers for your HD? They need to be on a floppy
disk.


--
David R. Norton MVP
<d_r_norton@yahoo.com>

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"Brian Cryer" <brianc@127.0.0.1.activesol.co.uk> wrote in:

> "NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
> news:uom1i15kqnd8eg4jn5g1ltreeitfh0cj79@4ax.com...

>> This isn't a chat room. Please use entire words, punctuation and
>> proper capitalization. Once you learn all this, please repost in a
>> more civilized manner.
>>
>
> He got his message across. It was clear and understandable. Sure, proper
> capitalization would be better, but it isn't a requirement for posting to a
> newsgroup. I'm sure he would have appreciated a helpful comment rather than
> an unnecessary ticking off about his sentence structure.

I agree with both of you. His post is difficult to read and does show a
"chat room" mentality but he did get his point across although I had to read
his post a couple of times to understand it... so...

Can one of you help him? I can't, I don't use SATA and don't really know
much about it but no matter how badly written his post might be, he still
needs his computer fixed.



--
David R. Norton MVP
<d_r_norton@yahoo.com>

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First thing is first, i said i was in a hurry and stressed, get over
the first post already....

Also the SATA2 cables connect striaght into the motherboard, no pci
cards, so there is no drivers, at least not that i got with my hdd.

Also you may be right with saying there is something wrong with my
hdd, driver wise. Windows XP is seems to detect it as a "removable
hdd", like a usb flash drive. I think that maybe when im on the
ineternet, someone sees this, and disconnects the hd.

Also the event logs are very long. Do you want me to post them?

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Thank you!

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

In memory of those lost during Katrina &
Prayers and Hope for the remaining displaced.



"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
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> bojo wrote:
>>
>> just signed up here hopefully to get an answer to my problem... here's
>> wot happens...
>
> Just
> What
>
>

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Well then, you won't like my reply either. There isn't an excuse for these
types of posts here. Perhaps he can try: illiteratesrus@4windoz
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All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

In memory of those lost during Katrina &
Prayers and Hope for the remaining displaced.



"Brian Cryer" <brianc@127.0.0.1.activesol.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
> news:uom1i15kqnd8eg4jn5g1ltreeitfh0cj79@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:45:06 GMT,
>> bojo@iinet.net-dot-au.no-spam.invalid (bojo) wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> This isn't a chat room. Please use entire words, punctuation and
>> proper capitalization. Once you learn all this, please repost in a
>> more civilized manner.
>>
>
> He got his message across. It was clear and understandable. Sure, proper
> capitalization would be better, but it isn't a requirement for posting to
> a newsgroup. I'm sure he would have appreciated a helpful comment rather
> than an unnecessary ticking off about his sentence structure.
>
> Brian.
> --
> www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
>
>