Interestering if its accurate.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8863

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Quote from Inq Article:

"If Microsoft puts both of the processors on an equal footing, there's little doubt as to which will get the lion's share of the market. Even with Intel famous for its reliability and support, the choice of which 64bit processor to go for becomes a no-brainer."

Would one of the processor experts here care to elaborate on that presumption? Is it because Opteron will cost less that the decision would be a "no-brainer?"

Just curious.

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Spitfire is correct. But I will add that Opteron is also going to be running at a lot higher Mhz than Itanium. Also the biggest advantage that I can see is you dont have to spend thousands upgrading ALL your software to take advantage of 64Bit unlike Itanium. You only need to upgrade the programs that need the added enhancements of 64bit and leave the rest 32bit. A lot cheaper way of doing things. I will use an example. Adobe Photoshop. Now everyone knows the more power there the better. But it is a big program and would take a lot of work to change the whole thing. So what they can do is just chgange the photo filters to 64bit as they are only very small in size and wont require much work to change. And also they are the only part of the program that needs the high performance as they do all the work. And you leave the GUI at 32bit. That way you have Photoshop taking advantage of the power of 64Bit but it doesnt mean rewriting the whole program at once. Only the parts that can take advantage of 64Bit. At least thats the way I look at it.
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'It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames'

Dont say a thing when you dont know

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What are you on about now you wanker?

'It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames'

Spitfire is correct. But I will add that Opteron is also going to be running at a lot higher Mhz than Itanium. Also the biggest advantage that I can see is you dont have to spend thousands upgrading ALL your software to take advantage of 64Bit unlike Itanium.

What is the software so important that cannot be port or even need more power that a P2 400.PDF reading help file.All DB work on IA-64 there 13 OS all driver are port and running and tested.

Mghz wise 1.5 GHZ vs a 1.6 or 1.8 that not a big change.You guy like to compare Mackinley to opteron.In itanium world mackinley will be low-end soon this quarter and fully compatible with actual platform.everyone that have buy a IA-64 base can change to a Madison to increase perf and decrease power consumation.


But it is a big program and would take a lot of work to change the whole thing. So what they can do is just chgange the photo filters to 64bit as they are only very small in size and wont require much work to change. And also they are the only part of the program that needs the high performance as they do all the work. And you leave the GUI at 32bit. That way you have Photoshop taking advantage of the power of 64Bit but it doesnt mean rewriting the whole program at once. Only the parts that can take advantage of 64Bit. At least thats the way I look at it

Welcome to programing Hell.Slow unstable uncompatible.Stay on pure 32 bit extended mode or move to 64 bit or stay on plain X86 for compability with older CPU and intel that will represent 99.99999 % of normal systemes of anyone.

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You clearly dont understand the massive advantages of X86-64. It means you can keep most of your software in 32Bit without having to put up with P-400 speeds while being able to harness the abilities of 64Bit when needed. And it also means the upgrade path is much easier to manage. Could you imagine playing UT2003 on say a desktop version of itanium (I know it doesnt exist) in 32Bit mode and putting up with it just so you can get the advantage of high 64Bit performance on some other app? Or a company that needs the 64Bit capabilities for a single program. With itaniac they have to upgrade ALL their software to 64Bit for it to be usable but with Opteron they only have to upgrade what they need. That is the power of Opteron/Athlon 64 with X86-64. And I dont see how there would be any programming hell in X86-64. I can see the direct opposite though. You could take advantage of 64Bit where it would be useful and leave the rest at 32Bit where it wouldnt be an advantage. I dont see how that is supposed to be slow unstable and uncompatable. I know with itanium/itnaiac you have to manualy change modes between 64 and 32Bit and the 32Bit performance sucks so those claims would apply to itaniac but with Opteron it is native to both without having to change modes so those claims dont apply. And Mhz wise there is a lot of sources that agree Opteron will be quickly scaled up to 2.5gighz. Though I will admit that it may not be true. Anyway I do suggest you get lost now as I have little patiance for intel fanboys like you. And learn to spell and get some grammer lessons will ya. It took me forever just to work out what you were trying to say.
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'It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames'

If you want

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If I want what? You dont even have a clue what you are saying yourself do you?

'It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames'

a french expression mean get your way in your own world.

For me this discusion is close.

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Amen Juin, Comme tu veux!

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