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When the update above is run (downloaded by Automatic Update), a Microsoft VM
window reports: "This setup will only upgrade over an existing version of the
Microsoft VM." Then you click OK and the Automatic Updates window reports:
"You have successfully updated your computer. You must restart your computer
for the updates to take effect."

The process repeats on restart - so far the process has repeated up to 10
times hitherto.

What action should I take to stop the cycle?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

"The update also requires an administrator logon after the restart to
complete the installation."
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816093
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Will wrote:
> When the update above is run (downloaded by Automatic Update), a
> Microsoft VM window reports: "This setup will only upgrade over an
> existing version of the Microsoft VM." Then you click OK and the
> Automatic Updates window reports: "You have successfully updated your
> computer. You must restart your computer for the updates to take effect."
>
> The process repeats on restart - so far the process has repeated up to 10
> times hitherto.
>
> What action should I take to stop the cycle?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

The default user is configured as Administrator and has logged-on subsequent
to every reboot.

Admittedly, a password hadn't been configured for the default user. When I
configured the password and used it to logon the cycle seemed to be broken.

Will

"PA Bear" wrote:

> "The update also requires an administrator logon after the restart to
> complete the installation."
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816093
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> Will wrote:
> > When the update above is run (downloaded by Automatic Update), a
> > Microsoft VM window reports: "This setup will only upgrade over an
> > existing version of the Microsoft VM." Then you click OK and the
> > Automatic Updates window reports: "You have successfully updated your
> > computer. You must restart your computer for the updates to take effect."
> >
> > The process repeats on restart - so far the process has repeated up to 10
> > times hitherto.
> >
> > What action should I take to stop the cycle?
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Actually, I was fooled. The same messages display regardless of whether a
password is used or otherwise.

Will

"PA Bear" wrote:

> "The update also requires an administrator logon after the restart to
> complete the installation."
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816093
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> Will wrote:
> > When the update above is run (downloaded by Automatic Update), a
> > Microsoft VM window reports: "This setup will only upgrade over an
> > existing version of the Microsoft VM." Then you click OK and the
> > Automatic Updates window reports: "You have successfully updated your
> > computer. You must restart your computer for the updates to take effect."
> >
> > The process repeats on restart - so far the process has repeated up to 10
> > times hitherto.
> >
> > What action should I take to stop the cycle?
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.java.vm,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Here are some general WinUp troubleshooting tips, Will:

1. See the "Need more help? Tell us what problem you are having" section of
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=ph;en-us;6527

2. You cannot install some updates or programs
http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] -us;822798

3a. Check Windowsupdate.log (%windir%\Windowsupdate.log) for errors
associated with the download/install.

How to read the Windowsupdate.log file:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=902093

3b. Compare errors to those listed here:
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archi [...] _codes.htm and/or go to
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com > click on Help and Support link in left
pane > Solve problems on your own.

4. Windows Update Checklist:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/updtcl.htm

5. Windows Update-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/mi­crosoft.public.windowsupdate

Here's the VM newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.java.vm (to
which I'm crossposting my reply in hopes that someone there might be able to
help you).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Will wrote:
<paste to combine replies>
> The default user is configured as Administrator and has logged-on
> subsequent to every reboot.
>
> Admittedly, a password hadn't been configured for the default user. When
> I configured the password and used it to logon the cycle seemed to be
> broken.
</paste>
> Actually, I was fooled. The same messages display regardless of whether a
> password is used or otherwise.
>
> > "The update also requires an administrator logon after the restart to
> > complete the installation."
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816093
> > --
> > Will wrote:
> > > When the update above is run (downloaded by Automatic Update), a
> > > Microsoft VM window reports: "This setup will only upgrade over an
> > > existing version of the Microsoft VM." Then you click OK and the
> > > Automatic Updates window reports: "You have successfully updated your
> > > computer. You must restart your computer for the updates to take
> > > effect."
> > >
> > > The process repeats on restart - so far the process has repeated up
> > > to 10 times hitherto.
> > >
> > > What action should I take to stop the cycle?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

Hi Will - Perhaps some of the info in this "standard" posting may help:


To determine your Java version:

For the MS JVM: In a command window, at the prompt enter jview
For the Sun JRE/JVM: In a command window, at the prompt enter
java -version


You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the following sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html (This one may be down)
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

If you have Sun Java installed, you can run their test utility here:
http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.jsp

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm


There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Dec 31, 2007, MS will apparently no longer be
distributing Java or providing any support for Java including security
fixes. See here: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ so you might want
to start thinking about the future. MS Java VM Transition FAQ are available
here:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/faq.asp Information on the current
availability of the MS JVM is available here: INFO: Availability of Current
Build of Microsoft VM,
http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] -us;163637

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using the
dropdown - I recommend that you don't install any version prior to 1.4.2.08
in order to get an important security fix.)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java plug-in
here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html

If you want the latest and greatest, you can link to a download for the J2SE
5.0 JRE here: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (What I use,
BTW)



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3805 or v.3809 prior to
upgrading to v. 3810 if you didn't previously have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and install
MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/ [...] AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.co [...] 30_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, follow the directions here: Frequently Asked Questions
About the Microsoft VM and Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=820101 "Because the Microsoft VM files are
not protected by the Windows File Protection (WFP) feature in Windows 2000
SP4, redistributable versions of the Microsoft VM can be installed on a
Windows 2000 SP4-based computer with or without the Microsoft VM."


For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe or v. 3805 from
here:
http://www.sijet.com/msjavx86.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/deta [...] 1050022631 ,or here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/ [...] f2b34d.exe

For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
http://download.microsoft.com/down [...] X86_EN.exe

For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
Windows Update Catalog - use the procedure given in the Q820101 link given
above for Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition (Yes, Win98x/SE - it's
not a mistake). You can find directions for using the Windows Update
Catalog functions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] US;323166.



Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select which
one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart all IE
browsers. Here, courtesy of Mitch Gallant, MVP Security, is a tiny utility
which allows you to toggle and view status of your current Java VM vendor
associated with IE:
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience [...] index.html

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility: If/when you install a new
version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually select to have Sun JVM as default
JVM for IE (in install), or after install via the JavaPlugin control panel.
This generates the necessary win32 registry entries, which must be present
for the utility to know about JavaPlugin. After that, the utility should
work properly."


Java and JavaScript are two different things. See here for tutorials on
the differences:

http://www.jsr.communitech.net/difference.htm
http://www.developer.com/java/other/article.php/639301


For JavaScript: download the latest engine for your particular OS here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads [...] layLang=en
Get both "Windows Script 5.6" and "JScript 5.6 Security Patch" for your
particular OS.


--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

"Will" <Will@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:57E2CC9D-7066-45C7-88AE-FA600B50EC25@microsoft.com
> Actually, I was fooled. The same messages display regardless of
> whether a password is used or otherwise.
>
> Will
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> "The update also requires an administrator logon after the restart to
>> complete the installation."
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816093
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>>
>> Will wrote:
>>> When the update above is run (downloaded by Automatic Update), a
>>> Microsoft VM window reports: "This setup will only upgrade over an
>>> existing version of the Microsoft VM." Then you click OK and the
>>> Automatic Updates window reports: "You have successfully updated
>>> your computer. You must restart your computer for the updates to
>>> take effect."
>>>
>>> The process repeats on restart - so far the process has repeated up
>>> to 10 times hitherto.
>>>
>>> What action should I take to stop the cycle?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

I have this same problem, but I don't have VM installed. What can I do?

"Jim Byrd" wrote:

> Hi Will - Perhaps some of the info in this "standard" posting may help:
>
>
> To determine your Java version:
>
> For the MS JVM: In a command window, at the prompt enter jview
> For the Sun JRE/JVM: In a command window, at the prompt enter
> java -version
>
>
> You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the following sites:
>
> http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
> http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html (This one may be down)
> http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's installed)
> http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
> http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html
>
> If you have Sun Java installed, you can run their test utility here:
> http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.jsp
>
> and you can test Javascript here:
> http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm
>
>
> There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
> http://www.javatester.org/installing.html
>
> Be aware, however, that after Dec 31, 2007, MS will apparently no longer be
> distributing Java or providing any support for Java including security
> fixes. See here: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ so you might want
> to start thinking about the future. MS Java VM Transition FAQ are available
> here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/faq.asp Information on the current
> availability of the MS JVM is available here: INFO: Availability of Current
> Build of Microsoft VM,
> http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] -us;163637
>
> You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
> http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using the
> dropdown - I recommend that you don't install any version prior to 1.4.2.08
> in order to get an important security fix.)
>
> Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java plug-in
> here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html
>
> If you want the latest and greatest, you can link to a download for the J2SE
> 5.0 JRE here: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (What I use,
> BTW)
>
>
>
> For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3805 or v.3809 prior to
> upgrading to v. 3810 if you didn't previously have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
> installed.
>
> If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and install
> MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ [...] AC9DCD.exe
> or here:
> http://www.biologylab.awlonline.co [...] 30_W2K.exe
>
> For Win2000 SP4, follow the directions here: Frequently Asked Questions
> About the Microsoft VM and Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=820101 "Because the Microsoft VM files are
> not protected by the Windows File Protection (WFP) feature in Windows 2000
> SP4, redistributable versions of the Microsoft VM can be installed on a
> Windows 2000 SP4-based computer with or without the Microsoft VM."
>
>
> For all other OS's:
>
> Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
> http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
> http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe or v. 3805 from
> here:
> http://www.sijet.com/msjavx86.exe
>
>
> Then upgrade to v. 3810:
>
> For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
> http://fileforum.betanews.com/deta [...] 1050022631 ,or here:
> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ [...] f2b34d.exe
>
> For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
> http://download.microsoft.com/down [...] X86_EN.exe
>
> For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
> Windows Update Catalog - use the procedure given in the Q820101 link given
> above for Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition (Yes, Win98x/SE - it's
> not a mistake). You can find directions for using the Windows Update
> Catalog functions here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] US;323166.
>
>
>
> Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select which
> one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart all IE
> browsers. Here, courtesy of Mitch Gallant, MVP Security, is a tiny utility
> which allows you to toggle and view status of your current Java VM vendor
> associated with IE:
> http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience [...] index.html
>
> A note from Mitch Gallant:
>
> "One note about the JVM Selector utility: If/when you install a new
> version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually select to have Sun JVM as default
> JVM for IE (in install), or after install via the JavaPlugin control panel.
> This generates the necessary win32 registry entries, which must be present
> for the utility to know about JavaPlugin. After that, the utility should
> work properly."
>
>
> Java and JavaScript are two different things. See here for tutorials on
> the differences:
>
> http://www.jsr.communitech.net/difference.htm
> http://www.developer.com/java/other/article.php/639301
>
>
> For JavaScript: download the latest engine for your particular OS here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads [...] layLang=en
> Get both "Windows Script 5.6" and "JScript 5.6 Security Patch" for your
> particular OS.
>
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> "Will" <Will@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:57E2CC9D-7066-45C7-88AE-FA600B50EC25@microsoft.com
> > Actually, I was fooled. The same messages display regardless of
> > whether a password is used or otherwise.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >> "The update also requires an administrator logon after the restart to
> >> complete the installation."
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816093
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> >>
> >> Will wrote:
> >>> When the update above is run (downloaded by Automatic Update), a
> >>> Microsoft VM window reports: "This setup will only upgrade over an
> >>> existing version of the Microsoft VM." Then you click OK and the
> >>> Automatic Updates window reports: "You have successfully updated
> >>> your computer. You must restart your computer for the updates to
> >>> take effect."
> >>>
> >>> The process repeats on restart - so far the process has repeated up
> >>> to 10 times hitherto.
> >>>
> >>> What action should I take to stop the cycle?
>
>
>