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I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!). Short
of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to use and I'm
trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is there any other
way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and addresses onto
white background, and I really need the names to be darker.

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There should be an ideal combination between brightness and contrast.Try
to adjust both so that you will get a better effect.
'Contrast' property varies in different monitor or brands.Some are
high-contrast monitors,some are less.

I shall suggest you to use monitor Gamma Control Panel for adjustment.

http://www.jasc.com/support/kb/articles/monitor.asp
http://www.ephotozine.com/techniqu [...] m?recid=12
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/321608.html
http://trikuare.cx/art/tut/gamma/

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

Joy wrote:
> I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!).
> Short of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to
> use and I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is
> there any other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names
> and addresses onto white background, and I really need the names to be
> darker.

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Does one need Adobe Photoshop in order to have these Gamma controls in the
computer? Re: adjusting the controls that came on this new monitor, that is
part (all?) of the problem; trying to access them and make them adjust. The
buttons are not very easy to understand.

"S.Sengupta" <ssengupta_@msn.com> wrote in message
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> There should be an ideal combination between brightness and contrast.Try
> to adjust both so that you will get a better effect.
> 'Contrast' property varies in different monitor or brands.Some are
> high-contrast monitors,some are less.
>
> I shall suggest you to use monitor Gamma Control Panel for adjustment.
>
> http://www.jasc.com/support/kb/articles/monitor.asp
> http://www.ephotozine.com/techniqu [...] m?recid=12
> http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/321608.html
> http://trikuare.cx/art/tut/gamma/
>
> regards,
> ssg MS-MVP
>
> Joy wrote:
>> I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!).
>> Short of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to use
>> and I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is there
>> any other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and
>> addresses onto white background, and I really need the names to be
>> darker.

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I do agree.
'is there any other way to give more contrast?'
I thought he might try that (gamma) way,if he has that.

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

Joy wrote:

> Does one need Adobe Photoshop in order to have these Gamma controls in
> the computer? Re: adjusting the controls that came on this new monitor,
> that is part (all?) of the problem; trying to access them and make them
> adjust. The buttons are not very easy to understand.
>
> "S.Sengupta" <ssengupta_@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:uEv$6k2fFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
>> There should be an ideal combination between brightness and
>> contrast.Try to adjust both so that you will get a better effect.
>> 'Contrast' property varies in different monitor or brands.Some are
>> high-contrast monitors,some are less.
>>
>> I shall suggest you to use monitor Gamma Control Panel for adjustment.
>>
>> http://www.jasc.com/support/kb/articles/monitor.asp
>> http://www.ephotozine.com/techniqu [...] m?recid=12
>> http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/321608.html
>> http://trikuare.cx/art/tut/gamma/
>>
>> regards,
>> ssg MS-MVP
>>
>> Joy wrote:
>>
>>> I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!).
>>> Short of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to
>>> use and I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is over)
>>> is there any other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of
>>> names and addresses onto white background, and I really need the
>>> names to be darker.
>
>

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Joy wrote:
> I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!).
> Short of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to
> use and I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is
> there any other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names
> and addresses onto white background, and I really need the names to be
> darker.

right click on your desktop, properties, settings, adjust screen
resolution to 1024x1280. That should work.

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I can try that, but I thought the resolution changed the size of icons,
etc., not the contrast.

"Robert Gething" <virusking1052733@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Joy wrote:
>> I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!).
>> Short of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to use
>> and I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is there
>> any other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and
>> addresses onto white background, and I really need the names to be
>> darker.
>
> right click on your desktop, properties, settings, adjust screen
> resolution to 1024x1280. That should work.

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Joy wrote:

> I can try that, but I thought the resolution changed the size of
> icons, etc., not the contrast.
>
> "Robert Gething" <virusking1052733@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:eavYko7fFHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Joy wrote:
>>> I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!).
>>> Short of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy
>>> to use and I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is
>>> over) is there
>>> any other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and
>>> addresses onto white background, and I really need the names to be
>>> darker.
>>
>> right click on your desktop, properties, settings, adjust screen
>> resolution to 1024x1280. That should work.

No, Mr. Gething is incorrect and you are right, Joy. Changing the
resolution will not change the contrast. As you were told in previous
posts, either change the monitor settings from the monitor itself or
look and see if your graphics card provides gamma adjustment.

Malke
--
MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic"

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So other than possibly buying Adobe PhotoShop is there any other way to
get/find this gamma adjustment? I have an older Corel Photo Paint 8 - would
that help?


"Malke" <notreally@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Joy wrote:
>
>> I can try that, but I thought the resolution changed the size of
>> icons, etc., not the contrast.
>>
>> "Robert Gething" <virusking1052733@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:eavYko7fFHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Joy wrote:
>>>> I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!).
>>>> Short of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy
>>>> to use and I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is
>>>> over) is there
>>>> any other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and
>>>> addresses onto white background, and I really need the names to be
>>>> darker.
>>>
>>> right click on your desktop, properties, settings, adjust screen
>>> resolution to 1024x1280. That should work.
>
> No, Mr. Gething is incorrect and you are right, Joy. Changing the
> resolution will not change the contrast. As you were told in previous
> posts, either change the monitor settings from the monitor itself or
> look and see if your graphics card provides gamma adjustment.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic"

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From his spyware and virus infected Windoze box, Joy had this to say:

> So other than possibly buying Adobe PhotoShop is there any other way to
> get/find this gamma adjustment? I have an older Corel Photo Paint 8 -
> would that help?
>
Maybe this freeware utility will work for you?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/DarkAdapted_d2763.html

I've never used it, so can't vouch for its effectiveness. But it might be
worth trying in your case. Sure cheaper than buying PhotoShop. :-)


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From his spyware and virus infected Windoze box, Joy had this to say:

> So other than possibly buying Adobe PhotoShop is there any other way to
> get/find this gamma adjustment? I have an older Corel Photo Paint 8 -
> would that help?
>

Joy,

Here's another one ... shareware this time, that will allow for gamma
settings for a wide range of video cards:

http://zdnet.com.com/3000-2094-10025384.html

Again, I have no personal experience with it. But it does come as a 30 day
trial.


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NoStop wrote:

> From his spyware and virus infected Windoze box, Joy had this to say:
>
>> So other than possibly buying Adobe PhotoShop is there any other way
>> to
>> get/find this gamma adjustment? I have an older Corel Photo Paint 8
>> - would that help?
>>
> Maybe this freeware utility will work for you?
>
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/DarkAdapted_d2763.html
>
> I've never used it, so can't vouch for its effectiveness. But it might
> be worth trying in your case. Sure cheaper than buying PhotoShop. :-)
>
>
A lot of graphics cards have gamma adjustment settings. The Nvidia cards
have had this for years. Check in the Display applet under Settings and
from there under your Adapter. Nvidia cards can have an additional
Control Panel applet for more settings, too.

Malke
--
MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic"

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From his spyware and virus infected Windoze box, Malke had this to say:

> NoStop wrote:
>
>> From his spyware and virus infected Windoze box, Joy had this to say:
>>
>>> So other than possibly buying Adobe PhotoShop is there any other way
>>> to
>>> get/find this gamma adjustment? I have an older Corel Photo Paint 8
>>> - would that help?
>>>
>> Maybe this freeware utility will work for you?
>>
>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/DarkAdapted_d2763.html
>>
>> I've never used it, so can't vouch for its effectiveness. But it might
>> be worth trying in your case. Sure cheaper than buying PhotoShop. :-)
>>
>>
> A lot of graphics cards have gamma adjustment settings. The Nvidia cards
> have had this for years. Check in the Display applet under Settings and
> from there under your Adapter. Nvidia cards can have an additional
> Control Panel applet for more settings, too.
>
> Malke

As do ATI cards too Malke. Of course that's the first place the OP should
check and I guess I assumed that wasn't an option since this thread has
been going on for a while.


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Have you tried Cleartype? It's Microsoft but worked for me.
http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] 27&sd=tech


"Joy" <joymp2@bellsouth.net.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
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>I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!). Short
>of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to use and I'm
>trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is there any other
>way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and addresses onto
>white background, and I really need the names to be darker.

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One thing I use is to change the default Window color. Being
older and having a table full of glasses, I use the "Light" gray
shade. Especially for mail and Explorer the gray background
is easier on my eyes than working with the normal white. You
can try it by opening Display Properties, Appearance (Tab),
Advanced, Click on the Box that has "Window Text" and
toggle the Color1 to the first Light shade of gray, then Apply
.....


"Don" <tupling@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> Have you tried Cleartype? It's Microsoft but worked for me.
> http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] 27&sd=tech
>
>
> "Joy" <joymp2@bellsouth.net.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
> newsNf0ez1fFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!). Short
>>of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to use and
>>I'm trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is there any
>>other way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and addresses
>>onto white background, and I really need the names to be darker.
>
>

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NoStop wrote:

> From his spyware and virus infected Windoze box, Joy had this to say:
>
>> So other than possibly buying Adobe PhotoShop is there any other way
>> to
>> get/find this gamma adjustment? I have an older Corel Photo Paint 8
>> - would that help?
>>
>
> Joy,
>
> Here's another one ... shareware this time, that will allow for gamma
> settings for a wide range of video cards:
>
> http://zdnet.com.com/3000-2094-10025384.html
>
> Again, I have no personal experience with it. But it does come as a 30
> day trial.
>
>
That's a good link and good info about ATI cards, NoStop. But I don't
think that Joy has checked her video card. In her very first post she
said she hadn't tried to change the contrast by using the monitor's
buttons because they were too difficult and she was going to contact
the monitor mftr. Of course, the very first thing she should have done
(change contrast on the monitor itself) is the very thing she refused
to do.

So now she has lots of information and can act accordingly.

Malke
--
MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic"

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I appreciate all the input, thanks to all of you. At this point I am
seriously thinking about returning this monitor and shopping for a different
brand. This one is a KDS, bought at Walmart. I'll be in a larger city in a
few days where there are more stores that carry computers, so I'll have more
choices. Do any of you think this would be a good idea? Any advice
(keeping the price reasonable) as to brand(s) that would do a better job on
contrast and brightness?

"Joy" <joymp2@bellsouth.net.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
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>I just bought a new monitor (17"; I had a 15" - hard on the eyes!). Short
>of trying to use the monitor adjustments (which are NOT easy to use and I'm
>trying to contact the company once the holiday is over) is there any other
>way to give more contrast? I'm typing a lot of names and addresses onto
>white background, and I really need the names to be darker.