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Dear All,

I recently joined in this group. I would like to know in today's STB
world market what is the latest Platform in demand for STB.

1. HDTV support STB or
2. OpenTV STB or
3. MHP STB or
4. Or just normal Digital Satellite Decoder with SD support and CI?
Regards,
Suresh

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On 26 Jan 2005 00:53:26 -0800, "STBEngineer"
<sureshrajulooks@gmail.com> wrote:

>1. HDTV support STB or



Build this one and make it cheap.

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Thanks for the response. Extending the story a little long... I know
that HDTV supported STB is good in Australian Market...may I know in
which other countries apart from Australia have demand.

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On 26 Jan 2005 19:17:45 -0800, "STBEngineer"
<sureshrajulooks@gmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the response. Extending the story a little long... I know
>that HDTV supported STB is good in Australian Market...may I know in
>which other countries apart from Australia have demand.



The one where you will make the most money, the USA.
Not sure if any other Countries would like them. I'm adding the HDTV
newsgroup so someone might offer some better advice.
Good luck.

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:25:03 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:

>On 26 Jan 2005 19:17:45 -0800, "STBEngineer"
><sureshrajulooks@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the response. Extending the story a little long... I know
>>that HDTV supported STB is good in Australian Market...may I know in
>>which other countries apart from Australia have demand.
>
>
>
>The one where you will make the most money, the USA.
>Not sure if any other Countries would like them. I'm adding the HDTV
>newsgroup so someone might offer some better advice.
>Good luck.

Keep in mind the market is still pretty small for ATSC OTA HDTV STBs,
and even smaller for open standard DVB satellite HD boxes, as the
popular satellite proivders used what amount to closed systems (which
often include ATSC tuners in their HD boxes).

Now if you can market an ATSC OTA STB tuner for $99 USD or less, you
have something.

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:19:00 -0500, Gary J. Tait
<classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:25:03 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:
>
>>On 26 Jan 2005 19:17:45 -0800, "STBEngineer"
>><sureshrajulooks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for the response. Extending the story a little long... I know
>>>that HDTV supported STB is good in Australian Market...may I know in
>>>which other countries apart from Australia have demand.
>>
>>
>>
>>The one where you will make the most money, the USA.
>>Not sure if any other Countries would like them. I'm adding the HDTV
>>newsgroup so someone might offer some better advice.
>>Good luck.
>
>Keep in mind the market is still pretty small for ATSC OTA HDTV STBs,
>and even smaller for open standard DVB satellite HD boxes, as the
>popular satellite proivders used what amount to closed systems (which
>often include ATSC tuners in their HD boxes).

SShhhhH, don't tell him that.

>Now if you can market an ATSC OTA STB tuner for $99 USD or less, you
>have something.

No doubt.

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kryppy wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:19:00 -0500, Gary J. Tait
> <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:25:03 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 26 Jan 2005 19:17:45 -0800, "STBEngineer"
>>><sureshrajulooks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for the response. Extending the story a little long... I know
>>>>that HDTV supported STB is good in Australian Market...may I know in
>>>>which other countries apart from Australia have demand.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The one where you will make the most money, the USA.
>>>Not sure if any other Countries would like them. I'm adding the HDTV
>>>newsgroup so someone might offer some better advice.
>>>Good luck.
>>
>>Keep in mind the market is still pretty small for ATSC OTA HDTV STBs,
>>and even smaller for open standard DVB satellite HD boxes, as the
>>popular satellite proivders used what amount to closed systems (which
>>often include ATSC tuners in their HD boxes).
>
>
> SShhhhH, don't tell him that.
>
>
>>Now if you can market an ATSC OTA STB tuner for $99 USD or less, you
>>have something.
>
>
> No doubt.
>
Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
for as little as $37 on sale.

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Bob Miller <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote:
> kryppy wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:19:00 -0500, Gary J. Tait
> > <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:25:03 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On 26 Jan 2005 19:17:45 -0800, "STBEngineer"
> >>><sureshrajulooks@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks for the response. Extending the story a little long... I know
> >>>>that HDTV supported STB is good in Australian Market...may I know in
> >>>>which other countries apart from Australia have demand.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The one where you will make the most money, the USA.
> >>>Not sure if any other Countries would like them. I'm adding the HDTV
> >>>newsgroup so someone might offer some better advice.
> >>>Good luck.
> >>
> >>Keep in mind the market is still pretty small for ATSC OTA HDTV STBs,
> >>and even smaller for open standard DVB satellite HD boxes, as the
> >>popular satellite proivders used what amount to closed systems (which
> >>often include ATSC tuners in their HD boxes).
> >
> >
> > SShhhhH, don't tell him that.
> >
> >
> >>Now if you can market an ATSC OTA STB tuner for $99 USD or less, you
> >>have something.
> >
> >
> > No doubt.
> >
> Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
> for as little as $37 on sale.

Are these $37 boxes hd?
Chip

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 03:16:32 GMT, Bob Miller <robmx@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>kryppy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:19:00 -0500, Gary J. Tait
>> <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:25:03 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 26 Jan 2005 19:17:45 -0800, "STBEngineer"
>>>><sureshrajulooks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the response. Extending the story a little long... I know
>>>>>that HDTV supported STB is good in Australian Market...may I know in
>>>>>which other countries apart from Australia have demand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The one where you will make the most money, the USA.
>>>>Not sure if any other Countries would like them. I'm adding the HDTV
>>>>newsgroup so someone might offer some better advice.
>>>>Good luck.
>>>
>>>Keep in mind the market is still pretty small for ATSC OTA HDTV STBs,
>>>and even smaller for open standard DVB satellite HD boxes, as the
>>>popular satellite proivders used what amount to closed systems (which
>>>often include ATSC tuners in their HD boxes).
>>
>>
>> SShhhhH, don't tell him that.
>>
>>
>>>Now if you can market an ATSC OTA STB tuner for $99 USD or less, you
>>>have something.
>>
>>
>> No doubt.
>>
>Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
>for as little as $37 on sale.


Perhaps, but since the United States is the only country successfully
broadcasting HDTV the world will never know why we are so happy and
they are sad, even with their superior COFDM.
Look for Europe and Australia to switch to 8VSB in the next year
making the $37 boxes free.

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hdtv@bellsouth.net wrote:

>>
>>Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
>>for as little as $37 on sale.
>
>
>
> Perhaps, but since the United States is the only country successfully
> broadcasting HDTV the world will never know why we are so happy and
> they are sad, even with their superior COFDM.
> Look for Europe and Australia to switch to 8VSB in the next year
> making the $37 boxes free.

The only country successfully broadcasting HD in the world? More like
the only country unsuccessfully broadcasting HD. I would argue that
Australia and Japan are both more successfully broadcasting HD using
COFDM. In both countries the customer is avidly buying HD OTA receivers
in ever increasing numbers.

In the US till now few people have bought any kind of OTA receiver. In
fact the US is so singularly UNsuccessful that it has had to mandate
receivers in every TV set. Not so in Japan where the sales of INTEGRATED
OTA HDTV sets are selling very well. Australia is selling ten times the
receivers we are selling.

The only thing the US has done is force a lot of broadcasters on the
air, they haven't forced a lot of customers to put up antennas, not even
the ones who have bought HD sets to watch DVDs.

Bob Miller

Bob Miller

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"Bob Miller" <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote >>
> Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
> for as little as $37 on sale.

Too bad you can't be thrown off this HDtv newsgroup, as you were at AVS
forum.

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Bob Miller <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >
> Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
> for as little as $37 on sale.

Okay Bob, I'll ask again. Are these $37 boxes hd?
Chip

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cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> Bob Miller <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are going
>>for as little as $37 on sale.
>
>
> Are these $37 boxes hd?
>

As you well know, bob will _NOT_ answer that question because _NONE_ of
them are HD. In the only other country with significant HD OTA
(Australia), HD receivers cost more than they do in the US.

When the market for OTA ATSC -> NTSC receivers, (without HD outputs)
opens up in 2006 or so, the price of those receivers will probably be in
the U$D50 range.

Matthew

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"Matthew L. Martin" <nothere@notnow.never> wrote:
> cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> > Bob Miller <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Too bad we can't use the ones they are selling in the UK which are
> >>going for as little as $37 on sale.
> >
> >
> > Are these $37 boxes hd?
> >
>
> As you well know, bob will _NOT_ answer that question because _NONE_ of
> them are HD. In the only other country with significant HD OTA
> (Australia), HD receivers cost more than they do in the US.
>
> When the market for OTA ATSC -> NTSC receivers, (without HD outputs)
> opens up in 2006 or so, the price of those receivers will probably be in
> the U$D50 range.
>
> Matthew

I know he won't because he is a coward (and a liar).
Chip

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Matthew L. Martin (nothere@notnow.never) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> When the market for OTA ATSC -> NTSC receivers, (without HD outputs)
> opens up in 2006 or so, the price of those receivers will probably be in
> the U$D50 range.

I really don't know if we will ever see such a box. I don't doubt we will
see $50 ATSC OTA receivers in the next year or so, but the savings to be
had from removing component outputs (or even DVI) is minimal. The biggest
savings would be the cost of the actual connectors on the box.

Since the receiver has to have enough memory and power to decode an HD
stream, there is little to be gained from removing HD outputs.

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