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I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality

Thanks,
Chris

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On 2005-04-20, socialism001@yahoo.com <socialism001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
> for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
> me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality

If you want a VCR, why don't you just get a VCR?

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>I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
>for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
>me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality

On a Series 1 standalone, YES. You get nag screens about needing
service every time you invoke something that needs the guide (which
is a lot of stuff), but you can still do time-and-channel recording.

It gets interesting trying to run a refurbished TiVo which came
with some season passes pre-programmed, but because of no subscription,
you can't see them (the trial subscription had already been used).
I eventually figured out that one of the wipe-everything-and-start-over
functions would fix this. I also decided to try out a subscription
and found it well worth it.

It is my understanding that the DirecTV Tivos won't record anything
without a subscription, and don't even make a good paperweight without
a subscription.

Gordon L. Burditt

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"Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 2005-04-20, socialism001@yahoo.com <socialism001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
> > for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
> > me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality
>
> If you want a VCR, why don't you just get a VCR?

Now, that is a really lame response. The picture is better, plus doesn't
degrade when being played a bunch of times. There are a lot of nice
features to the Tivo that could be provided without a subscription. If
there was such a thing as a digital vcr (like Tivo but without the program
guide), I think a lot of people would get that before getting a sbuscription
based DVR.

I've said before that the subscription price is just too much for the
service. I have Tivo and love it, but I get it free with my level of
Directv, which includes a couple devices in my house. If I had to pay for
the service, I probably wouldn't get it (I'd get another media option that
is does not come with such a high monthly fee). I would much rather pay a
higher price for the box and then have no (or low) monthly fee. $13/month
is WAY too high for them just to provide a TV guide - IMHO.

I really think in order to succeed, Tivo should become a software company.
Charge fair market value for the box, add a fee for the software and then a
small monthly fee for programming only if the user wants the programming.
However, the software should still be fully functional without the program
guide.

Jim

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"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in
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> "Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:116d4igaevufaca@corp.supernews.com...
>> On 2005-04-20, socialism001@yahoo.com <socialism001@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>> > I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly
>> > fee for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my
>> > VCR allows me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality
>>
>> If you want a VCR, why don't you just get a VCR?
>
> Now, that is a really lame response. The picture is better, plus
> doesn't degrade when being played a bunch of times. There are a
lot
> of nice features to the Tivo that could be provided without a
> subscription. If there was such a thing as a digital vcr (like
Tivo
> but without the program guide), I think a lot of people would get
that
> before getting a sbuscription based DVR.
>
> I've said before that the subscription price is just too much for
the
> service. I have Tivo and love it, but I get it free with my level
of
> Directv, which includes a couple devices in my house. If I had to
pay
> for the service, I probably wouldn't get it (I'd get another media
> option that is does not come with such a high monthly fee). I
would
> much rather pay a higher price for the box and then have no (or
low)
> monthly fee. $13/month is WAY too high for them just to provide a
TV
> guide - IMHO.
>
> I really think in order to succeed, Tivo should become a software
> company. Charge fair market value for the box, add a fee for the
> software and then a small monthly fee for programming only if the
user
> wants the programming. However, the software should still be fully
> functional without the program guide.
>
> Jim
>
>
>

Didn't Replay try the free service/high price model for awhile. It
did not work out for them. If you want TiVo-like functionality
without the subscription, buy a capture card for your computer.
There are a bunch of cheaper options.

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> I've said before that the subscription price is just too much for the
> service. I have Tivo and love it, but I get it free with my level of
> Directv, which includes a couple devices in my house. If I had to pay for
> the service, I probably wouldn't get it (I'd get another media option that
> is does not come with such a high monthly fee). I would much rather pay a
> higher price for the box and then have no (or low) monthly fee. $13/month
> is WAY too high for them just to provide a TV guide - IMHO.

Umm, am I missing something, Scooby? Doesn't Tivo offer that *exact*
option? Called a "Lifetime" subscription? Simply pay the cost of the
box plus $300 and *poof*, no monthly subscription fee. That fits
*exactly* what you're describing. It's not Tivo's fault if Directv
doesn't offer that option anymore (though their montly fee is
considerably cheaper at $5 /month, just how cheap do you want it anyway?).

And it's *not* just to provide the guide, it also supplies all the
searching cabilities, the home media options, Tivo-to-go, etc. You may
not use those, but others do.

Randy S.

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In article <a027a$4266ad24$a22770bd$11560@ALLTEL.NET>,
"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:116d4igaevufaca@corp.supernews.com...
> > On 2005-04-20, socialism001@yahoo.com <socialism001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
> > > for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
> > > me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality
> >
> > If you want a VCR, why don't you just get a VCR?
>
> Now, that is a really lame response. The picture is better, plus doesn't
> degrade when being played a bunch of times. There are a lot of nice
> features to the Tivo that could be provided without a subscription. If
> there was such a thing as a digital vcr (like Tivo but without the program
> guide), I think a lot of people would get that before getting a sbuscription
> based DVR.
>
> I've said before that the subscription price is just too much for the
> service. I have Tivo and love it, but I get it free with my level of
> Directv, which includes a couple devices in my house. If I had to pay for
> the service, I probably wouldn't get it (I'd get another media option that
> is does not come with such a high monthly fee). I would much rather pay a
> higher price for the box and then have no (or low) monthly fee. $13/month
> is WAY too high for them just to provide a TV guide - IMHO.
>
> I really think in order to succeed, Tivo should become a software company.
> Charge fair market value for the box, add a fee for the software and then a
> small monthly fee for programming only if the user wants the programming.
> However, the software should still be fully functional without the program
> guide.
>
> Jim

It cant be. The software needs a guide.

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"Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:116d4igaevufaca@corp.supernews.com...
>> On 2005-04-20, socialism001@yahoo.com <socialism001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
>> > for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
>> > me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality
>>
>> If you want a VCR, why don't you just get a VCR?
>
> Now, that is a really lame response. The picture is better, plus doesn't
> degrade when being played a bunch of times. There are a lot of nice
> features to the Tivo that could be provided without a subscription. If
> there was such a thing as a digital vcr (like Tivo but without the program
> guide), I think a lot of people would get that before getting a
> sbuscription
> based DVR.

There are service free DVRs out there. They are just more expensive and
typically not as nice (nice being subjective).

> I've said before that the subscription price is just too much for the
> service. I have Tivo and love it, but I get it free with my level of
> Directv, which includes a couple devices in my house. If I had to pay for
> the service, I probably wouldn't get it (I'd get another media option that
> is does not come with such a high monthly fee). I would much rather pay a
> higher price for the box and then have no (or low) monthly fee. $13/month
> is WAY too high for them just to provide a TV guide - IMHO.

What is a fair price for a TiVo like device with no service fee? Is $350
fair? Cause that's what you can get a TiVo for with lifetime subscription
pre-paid.

> I really think in order to succeed, Tivo should become a software company.
> Charge fair market value for the box, add a fee for the software and then
> a
> small monthly fee for programming only if the user wants the programming.
> However, the software should still be fully functional without the program
> guide.

They also do that as well. Pioneer (and I think 1 other brand) offer DVRs
with TiVo basic included. No HMO features and a 3 day guide.

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>I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
>for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
>me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality

Yes. Pick up a Toshiba SD-H400:
http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/dvr/pr [...] el=sd-h400

It was available last week from Overstock.com last week for $210, but
has since sold out.

It comes with Tivo Basic, a no-fee version of Tivo"
http://customersupport.tivo.com/kn [...] tv1199.htm

We own 2, and just bought a 3rd from Overstock last week. No monthly fee,
most of the Tivo goodness; we use it like a very fancy VCR.

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In article <1114018144.470740.7470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
socialism001@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
> for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR allows
> me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality
>
> Thanks,
> Chris

The Toshiba (and Pioneer, if you can still find one) DVD/TiVo combo
units come with free basic (3-day guide) sevice. My 80-hour Toshiba
SD-H400 was $150 after rebate, which is less than Best Buy wants for an
80-hour non-DVD TiVo.

However if you ever try the paid subscription, you'll probably want to
keep it.

Jim

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:54:14 -0400, "Randy S."
<rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote:

>
>> I've said before that the subscription price is just too much for the
>> service. I have Tivo and love it, but I get it free with my level of
>> Directv, which includes a couple devices in my house. If I had to pay for
>> the service, I probably wouldn't get it (I'd get another media option that
>> is does not come with such a high monthly fee). I would much rather pay a
>> higher price for the box and then have no (or low) monthly fee. $13/month
>> is WAY too high for them just to provide a TV guide - IMHO.
>
>Umm, am I missing something, Scooby? Doesn't Tivo offer that *exact*
>option? Called a "Lifetime" subscription? Simply pay the cost of the
>box plus $300 and *poof*, no monthly subscription fee. That fits
>*exactly* what you're describing. It's not Tivo's fault if Directv
>doesn't offer that option anymore (though their montly fee is
>considerably cheaper at $5 /month, just how cheap do you want it anyway?).
>
>And it's *not* just to provide the guide, it also supplies all the
>searching cabilities, the home media options, Tivo-to-go, etc. You may
>not use those, but others do.
>
>Randy S.

There you go again Randy. Directv does not offer all those options.
Even I know that but that doesn't stop you from posting your
gibberish.

Stick to something you know like the KKK.

Sean

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"Sean" <none> wrote in message
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>
> There you go again Randy. Directv does not offer all those options.
> Even I know that but that doesn't stop you from posting your
> gibberish.

Again, reading comprehension appears to not be your strong suit. The topic
being discussed here is a StandAlone as the poster in question who has
DirecTiVo(s) (and knows the cost of such) is talking about the "$13 a month"
model.

For someone who likes to comment on other people's intelligence, or lack
there of, you really should learn to practice what you preach.

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Old Replay Panasonic Showstoppers don't have any fees, but there should have
been one last upgrade for the date and time to be manually configured.

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> In article <a027a$4266ad24$a22770bd$11560@ALLTEL.NET>,
> "Scooby" <mmscooby1@removeme.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > "Mike Hunt" <in2sheep@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:116d4igaevufaca@corp.supernews.com...
> > > On 2005-04-20, socialism001@yahoo.com <socialism001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I'd like to get a tivo but am not interested in paying a monthly fee
> > > > for the schedule. Can I set TIVO to record programs like my VCR
allows
> > > > me ? Date,Time,Channel,Quality
> > >
> > > If you want a VCR, why don't you just get a VCR?
> >
> > Now, that is a really lame response. The picture is better, plus
doesn't
> > degrade when being played a bunch of times. There are a lot of nice
> > features to the Tivo that could be provided without a subscription. If
> > there was such a thing as a digital vcr (like Tivo but without the
program
> > guide), I think a lot of people would get that before getting a
sbuscription
> > based DVR.
> >
> > I've said before that the subscription price is just too much for the
> > service. I have Tivo and love it, but I get it free with my level of
> > Directv, which includes a couple devices in my house. If I had to pay
for
> > the service, I probably wouldn't get it (I'd get another media option
that
> > is does not come with such a high monthly fee). I would much rather pay
a
> > higher price for the box and then have no (or low) monthly fee.
$13/month
> > is WAY too high for them just to provide a TV guide - IMHO.
> >
> > I really think in order to succeed, Tivo should become a software
company.
> > Charge fair market value for the box, add a fee for the software and
then a
> > small monthly fee for programming only if the user wants the
programming.
> > However, the software should still be fully functional without the
program
> > guide.
> >
> > Jim
>
> It cant be. The software needs a guide.

Not really... In order to record all movies with <name you favorite actor>
in it (or similar search), yes, you need a guide. However, as the original
post asked, to record this channel at this time with this quality, you
should not need a guide. That was the point. Let me use the functionality
of the software without having to subscribe to the guide and software
updates.

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