Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot (More info?)

Just bought it and love it.
But need to learn more about
it's features. Is this the
right place. Thanks.

Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot (More info?)

On 20 Apr 2004 16:40:51 -0700, domersi wrote...


> Just bought it and love it.
> But need to learn more about
> it's features. Is this the
> right place. Thanks.
>

Actually, the manual is the best place, this group is only the second
best place ( 8(|)

--
Hope this helps.
Jim Anderson
( 8(|) To email me just pull my_finger

Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot (More info?)

"Jim Anderson" <fro2750@frontiernet.my_finger.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1aef84b93648dae79896bd@news.frontiernet.net...
| On 20 Apr 2004 16:40:51 -0700, domersi wrote...
|
|
| > Just bought it and love it.
| > But need to learn more about
| > it's features. Is this the
| > right place. Thanks.
| >
|
| Actually, the manual is the best place, this group is only the second
| best place ( 8(|)
|
| --
| Hope this helps.
| Jim Anderson
| ( 8(|) To email me just pull my_finger

Thanks Jim. And you're right, but sometimes actual experience
goes a long way when it comes to explaining something to newbies.
OK then, what does "palmtop" and "pilot" mean?
I've had the zire21 for 8 mos and just bought a Tungsten.
There seems to be a difficulty in transferring the data from
one to the other. But I'll figure it out. Thanks again.

Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot (More info?)

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:28:41 -0600, highcastle wrote...


>
> "Jim Anderson" <fro2750@frontiernet.my_finger.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1aef84b93648dae79896bd@news.frontiernet.net...
> | On 20 Apr 2004 16:40:51 -0700, domersi wrote...
> |
> |
> | > Just bought it and love it.
> | > But need to learn more about
> | > it's features. Is this the
> | > right place. Thanks.
> | >
> |
> | Actually, the manual is the best place, this group is only the second
> | best place ( 8(|)
> |
> | --
> | Hope this helps.
> | Jim Anderson
> | ( 8(|) To email me just pull my_finger
>
> Thanks Jim. And you're right, but sometimes actual experience
> goes a long way when it comes to explaining something to newbies.

True, very true.

> OK then, what does "palmtop" and "pilot" mean?

palmtop is an abbreviation of palmtop computer, or a computer that fits
in the palm of your hand.

IIRC the original Palm was called 'Palm Pilot'. The Pilot Pen company
sued Palm for trademark infringement. Palm dropped 'Pilot' from it name,
but it was too late, every handheld computer is referred to as 'Palm
Pilot' no matter who makes it, like people calling a photo-copy a Xerox
copy.

> I've had the zire21 for 8 mos and just bought a Tungsten.
> There seems to be a difficulty in transferring the data from
> one to the other. But I'll figure it out. Thanks again.

It is this simple;
Install the new desktop software for the Tungsten X.
Hotsync the Tungsten X, when it asks, choose your old Hotsync name.

This works for all of my upgrades, because I don't screw around with the
new unit or the Hotsync software, just install, Hotsync, done.

Don't beam nothing, copy from the card, install to RAM, set conduits to
desktop overwrites handheld, just install, Hotsync.

If you have trouble, because you loaded something or entered data on the
new Tungsten X, do a "Hard Reset" to erase everything.

<http://tinyurl.com/395bt> Palmone Inc. - Resetting Your Palm handheld.

--
Hope this helps.
Jim Anderson
( 8(|) To email me just pull my_finger

Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot (More info?)

Jim Anderson wrote:
> IIRC the original Palm was called 'Palm Pilot'. The Pilot Pen company
> sued Palm for trademark infringement. Palm dropped 'Pilot' from it name,

Actually, the original two models were the "Pilot 1000" and the
"Pilot 5000". It was after the suit that "Palm" was added.
Supposedly there was some sort of agreement where they could
make the transition "Pilot" -> "Palm Pilot" -> "Palm" so that
they wouldn't have to totally change the product name instantly
and thus lose brand recognition. The second-generation products
(the PalmPilot Personal and the PalmPilot Professional) both
had the dual name, and the next generations (Palm III and on)
finally dropped "Pilot" from the name.

- Logan

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Also the original product was introduced by 3-Com, not Palm. Somewhere along
the line I think 3-Com spun off Palm as a separate company.

TC

"Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Jim Anderson wrote:
> > IIRC the original Palm was called 'Palm Pilot'. The Pilot Pen company
> > sued Palm for trademark infringement. Palm dropped 'Pilot' from it name,
>
> Actually, the original two models were the "Pilot 1000" and the
> "Pilot 5000". It was after the suit that "Palm" was added.
> Supposedly there was some sort of agreement where they could
> make the transition "Pilot" -> "Palm Pilot" -> "Palm" so that
> they wouldn't have to totally change the product name instantly
> and thus lose brand recognition. The second-generation products
> (the PalmPilot Personal and the PalmPilot Professional) both
> had the dual name, and the next generations (Palm III and on)
> finally dropped "Pilot" from the name.
>
> - Logan

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Actually before that it was a US Robotics product. I bought a US Robotics
Palm Pilot. Then it sold it to 3COM and came the Pilot 1000, Pilot 5000,
Pilot Professional.

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MS MVP Mobile Devices
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"Tony Clark" <curiousgeorge1964@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vVGhc.6388$e4.4101@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Also the original product was introduced by 3-Com, not Palm. Somewhere
along
> the line I think 3-Com spun off Palm as a separate company.
>
> TC
>
> "Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:yADhc.8664$NR5.7323@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > Jim Anderson wrote:
> > > IIRC the original Palm was called 'Palm Pilot'. The Pilot Pen company
> > > sued Palm for trademark infringement. Palm dropped 'Pilot' from it
name,
> >
> > Actually, the original two models were the "Pilot 1000" and the
> > "Pilot 5000". It was after the suit that "Palm" was added.
> > Supposedly there was some sort of agreement where they could
> > make the transition "Pilot" -> "Palm Pilot" -> "Palm" so that
> > they wouldn't have to totally change the product name instantly
> > and thus lose brand recognition. The second-generation products
> > (the PalmPilot Personal and the PalmPilot Professional) both
> > had the dual name, and the next generations (Palm III and on)
> > finally dropped "Pilot" from the name.
> >
> > - Logan
>
>

Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot (More info?)

"Tony Clark" <curiousgeorge1964@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Also the original product was introduced by 3-Com, not Palm. Somewhere along
>the line I think 3-Com spun off Palm as a separate company.

Don't remember where I found this, but tells the story:

2003 Jun 18 :: Handspring introduces *Treo 600* (OS5 smartphone)
Jun 04 :: Announcement: *Palm* and *Handspring* to merge in Fall '03!!
May 27 :: Sony announces *NX80V* and *NX73V* (updated NX-series handhelds)
May 06 :: *TapWave* Palm OS License announced (to make /Helix/ handheld
gaming device)
May 06 :: *Aceeca* Palm OS License announced (to make IDA "industrial
digital assistant" )
May 06 :: /PalmSource/ Developer Seminar (2-day conference)
Apr.23 :: Palm releases *Zire 71* (OS5.2 OMAP310 144MHz processor;
integrated camera; hi-res).
Apr.23 :: Palm releases *Tungsten C* (OS5.2 PXA-255 400MHz processor;
integrated WiFi; first with 64MB RAM).
Apr.16 :: *HandEra* announces *end-of-life* for PalmOS handheld lineup
Mar.12 :: Samsung introduces *SGH-i500* (GSM/GPRS smartphone; OS5.2
PXA262 300MHz processor)
Mar.07 :: Sony releases *SJ22* (hi-res color at US$200)
Mar.04 :: Sony announces *TG50* (OS5; integrated keyboard; Bluetooth)
Mar.03 :: *Samsung* joins PalmOS Ready program (S3C2410 processor with
ARM920T core)
Jan.27 :: Sony announces *SJ33* (entry level with MP3 and hi-res color)
Jan.08 :: Sony announces *NZ90* (OS5; 2 megapixel camera; Bluetooth)
Jan.08 :: *Garmin* introduces *iQue 3600* (OS5 with Dragonball MXL;
integrated GPS; first with 32MB RAM; QVGA)
Jan.06 :: *HuneTec* Palm OS License announced (to make ReFLEX 2-way
messenging device)

2002 Dec.10 :: *Group Sense Ltd.* Palm OS License announced (to make
PalmOS Smartphones)
Dec.10 :: *Legend* Palm OS License announced (to make PDAs for the
Chinese market)
Dec.10 :: *PiTech* Palm OS Ready partnership announced (OEM design and
manufacturing)
Nov.18 :: *Fossil* Palm OS License announced (to make wristwatch PDA)
Oct.28 :: Palm Inc. introduces *Tungsten T "m550" * (OS5 with TI
OMAP1510 processor; first integrated Bluetooth; hi-res)
Oct.28 :: Palm Inc. announces *Tungsten W "i710"* (wireless GSM/GPRS
capabilities; integrated thumbboard)
Oct.07 :: Palm Inc. introduces *Zire "m150"* (entry-level handheld at $99)
Oct.02 :: Sony announces *NX70V* and *NX60* (first OS5 devices with
XScale /ARM/ processor; WiFi card slot)
Sep.24 :: Samsung announces SPH-*i330* and *i500* smartphones (CDMA)
Aug.13 :: Sony introduces *SJ20* and *SJ30*
Aug.12 :: Handspring ships *Treo 300* (for Sprint CDMA network)
Aug.12 :: Acer begins shipping *s60*
Aug.01 :: Palm Inc. ships Palm Desktop 4.1 (includes capability for 3rd
party plug-ins plus more)
Jul.22 :: Sony announces *SL10* (entry-level)
Jun.24 :: Kyocera announces QCP-*7135* smartphone (CDMA cellular networks)
Jun.24 :: Sony announces *T665C* (for North American market)
Jun.17 :: alphasmart announces *Dana* (laptop alternative for education
market with built-in keyboard, 560x160 screen)
Jun.10 :: PalmSource ships Golden Master of *OS5* to licensees
Jun.04 :: /PalmEvolution.com/ goes live!
May.29 :: Sony announces *T650C* (Japan-only)
May.27 :: Handspring announces *Treo 270* communicator and *Treo 90* PDA
Mar.11 :: Sony announces *NR70V* (first with 320x480 /(QVGA)/
resolution; integrated keyboard and camera; flip open form-factor)
Mar.11 :: Sony announces Memory Stick Bluetooth card (PEGA-MSB1: Japan-only)
Mar.04 :: Palm Inc. announces *m515* and *m130*
Feb.19 :: Palm Inc. announces *Bluetooth* SDIO card
Feb.13 :: IBM to phase out WorkPad line (to carry Palm-branded devices
instead)
Feb.05 :: PalmSource previews OS5 beta; general distribution of OS5
developer tools
Feb.04 :: 5th annual /PalmSource/ Developer Conference and Expo (to Feb.08)
Jan.29 :: Handspring ships *Treo 180* (GSM cellular networks)
Jan.28 :: Palm Inc. announces *i705* (replaces VIIx)
Jan.21 :: split of Palm into OS Subsidiary ("/PalmSource/" ) and Palm
Hardware ("/Palm Inc./" ) companies
Jan.15 :: Sony announces *T615* and *S360*
Jan.15 :: Symbol introduces *SPT-1550*

2001 Dec.__ :: Symbol introduces *SPT-1833, -1834* (first integrated WiFi)
Nov.__ :: twenty millionth PalmOS device shipped
Oct.22 :: Sony announces *T415* and MS Camera (PEGA-MSC1)
Oct.18 :: Acer announces *s10* (for Chinese-language market)
Oct.15 :: Handspring announces *Treo* series of communicators (first
with thumbboard instead of Graffiti area)
Oct.04 :: Samsung *SPH-i300* starts shipping
Sep.20 :: Palm announces *m125* with immediate availability
Sep.18 :: Sony replaces N710C with *N760C* (OS4.1)
Sep.17 :: HS Visor *Neo* and *Pro* announced (first with 16MB RAM)
Aug.27 :: *AlphaSmart* PalmOS License announced (for education-specific
device)
Aug.14 :: Palm acquires *BeOS*
Jul.27 :: Palm announces separation of platform and hardware solutions
businesses
Jun.__ :: Symbol introduces *SPT-1800, -1846* (ruggedized, barcode
scanner, integrated wireless)
Jun.25 :: Sony Clie *N610C*, *S320* announced
Jun.01 :: *Acer* license announced (Chinese PalmOS)
May.01 :: Sony *N710C* (North America) announced
Apr.24 :: TRG becomes *HandEra*, announces *HandEra 330* (first with
320x240 resolution; "virtual graffiti"; dual expansion (CF + SD)
Mar.22 :: Samsung *SPH-i300* announced (cell phone / Palm)
Mar.19 :: Palm *m505*, *m500* announced (first OS4 devices; Secure
Digital (SD) expansion slot; shipping May)
Mar.13 :: Sony Clie *N700C* (Japan) announced (first with 320x320
resolution /(hires)/; MP3 playback)
Mar.12 :: Handspring *Edge* announced
Mar.06 :: Kyocera *QCP-6035* shipping
Mar.06 :: Palm *m105* announced
Jan.12 :: Palm Desktop v4 for Windows released
Jan.06 :: *Garmin* OS license announced (to make Palm/GPS device)

2000 Dec.26 :: /MyPalm.com/ personal internet portal goes "live" to users
Dec.18 :: *VisorPhone* ships
Dec.12 :: *Samsung* OS license announced (to make PalmOS smartphone)
Dec.11 :: 4th annual /PalmSource/ developer's conference (to Dec.15;
5000 attendees)
Nov.27 :: Kyocera *QCP-6035* Smartphone announced
Nov.13 :: Palm /Mobile Internet Kit/ begins shipping
Oct.16 :: Visor *Prism* and *Platinum* announced (first with 33MHz
Dragonball VZ processor)
Oct.03 :: Symbol *SPT-1733* (CDPD) and *1734* (GSM) announced
Sep.25 :: VisorPhone Springboard module announced
Aug.07 :: Palm *m100*, *VIIx* announced
Jul.13 :: Sony Clie *S300* and (/Japan-only/) *S500C* announced (first
with JogDial; Memory Stick expansion slot)
Jul.__ :: ten millionth PalmOS device shipped
Mar.02 :: Palm gains independance from 3Com; publicly traded
Feb.22 :: Palm *IIIc*, *IIIxe* announced (IIIc: first color PalmOS device)

1999 Dec.10 :: /HotSync/ technology awarded US Patent #6,000,000
Oct.19 :: *Sony* licenses PalmOS
Oct.19 :: TRG announces *TRGpro* (first with industry standard expansion
Compact Flash "CF" memory)
Oct.19 :: 3rd annual /PalmSource/ developer's conference (to Oct.22;
2400 attendees)
Oct.14 :: Qualcomm *pdQ* shipping (first cell phone /(//CDMA)// Palm)
Oct.13 :: *Nokia* licenses PalmOS
Oct.04 :: Palm *Vx* announced (first with 20MHz Dragonball EZ processor;
8MB RAM)
Sep.14 :: Handspring announces first devices: *Visor* and *Visor Deluxe*
(first USB devices) and Springboard expansion technology.
Sep.__ :: five millionth PalmOS device shipped
Jul.19 :: Palm *IIIe* announced (entry-level)
May.24 :: Palm *VII* shipping in US
May.24 :: Symbol *SPT1700* and *SPT 1740* introduced (ruggedized;
bar-code; 1740 has integrated wireless LAN)
Apr.01 :: InterPUG <http://www.interpug.com>, an umbrella group for Palm
User Groups worldwide, is founded.
Feb.22 :: Palm *V*, *IIIx* announced (V: first integrated rechargeable
battery; IIIx: 4MB RAM)

1998 Dec.02 :: Palm *VII* announced (first integrated wireless data device)
Dec.01 :: 2nd annual /Palm Developer's Conference/ (to Dec.04; 1200
attendees)
Jul.10 :: Jeff Hawkins and Donna Dubinsky leave 3Com and found *Handspring*
Jun.01 :: Palm /2MB Upgrade/ introduced
Mar.23 :: Symbol *SPT1500* introduced (with integrated bar-code scanner)
Mar.09 :: Palm *III* introduced (first InfraRed; 2MB RAM; OS3)
Mar.05 :: 3Com sues Microsoft over proposed "PalmPC" name (becomes
Palm-sized PC and later, Pocket PC)

1997 Nov.__ :: /Tap 1.0/, the first Palm-centric printed magazine
published (later became Handheld Computing <http://www.hhcmag.com/>
Magazine)
Oct.14 :: first /PalmPilot Developer Conference/ (to Oct.17; 600 attendees)
Oct.__ :: one millionth pilot produced (18 months after introduction)
Sep.23 :: IBM *Workpad* 10u introduced
Sep.__ :: Pilot Pen Corp. files lawsuit against USR over "pilot" name
(device name transitions: pilot > PalmPilot > Palm)
Jun.12 :: Palm (and USRobotics) acquired by *3Com*
Apr.22 :: /pilotgear/, the first commercial software archive, goes
online (later became PalmGearHQ <http://www.palmgear.com> )
Mar.10 :: *PalmPilot Personal* and *Professional* announced (first
backlit screens; TCP/IP stack; up to 1MB RAM; OS2)
Mar.10 :: PalmPilt /Clip-on Modem/ announced
Jan.20 :: /Calvin's FAQ/ <http://www.palmgear.com/faq/> goes on-line.
Jan.11 :: /#pilot-pda/: first pilot-specific IRC (/Internet Relay Chat/)
channel (later became #palmchat <http://www.pdalife.com/palmchat.html> )

1996

Oct.06 :: Ed Keyes releases /HackMaster/
<http://www.daggerware.com/hackmstr.htm>, the original system extension
manager.
Oct.01 :: Greg Hewgill releases the /CoPilot/ pilot emulator (this later
evolved into the official emulator distributed by PalmSource Inc.)
Sep.23 :: IBM announces it will sell a rebranded PalmPilot, the *WorkPad*
Sep.17 :: /MemoWare/ <http://www.memoware.com> goes live (the first
content repository - today, the oldest continuously-operated
Palm-oriented website in existence)
Jul.04 :: first mailing list (/pilot-pda@ultraviolet.org/) formed
Jun.26 :: US Robotics releases the first *SDK* (software developer kit)
Jun.12 :: first application repository, /Adam's Pilot Software Archive/
goes on-line (/StingerSoft/ follows soon after)
May.26 :: first newsgroup (/alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot/) formed
May.22 :: first 3rd-party applications available (/WorldTime/ - Steve
Mann; /Blocks/ and /Blackjack/ - Bill Kirby and Stu Slack (Jun.01);
/Invaders <http://www.handmark.com/products/invaders/>/ - Scott Ludwig
(Jun.25 using the development tools created by Darrin Massena);
/PilotMoney/ - Jeremy Laurenson; /DinkyPad/ - Ed Keyes)
May.01 :: /Scott's pilot page/ (pilot.org
<http://web.archive.org/web/19961219061254/http://www.pilot.org/> ), one
of the first (if not THE first) fan sites goes on-line
Apr.09 :: *pilot 1000, 5000* start shipping
Jan.29 :: *pilot* announced


*1995*

*1994*

*1992*


Sep.01 :: Palm Computing acquired by *USRobotics*

Sep.19 :: *Graffiti* announced (for Newton, GEOS and Magic Cap PDAs)

Jan.02 :: Jeff Hawkins founds *Palm Computing*



*Notes*

Thanks to the many old-timer "piloteers" that assisted with research on
the formative Community Milestones.
©2002 Dan Royea