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I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours to
transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.

What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access
point, and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the
tivo, and a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works, and
there seems to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.

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"Jon Nadelberg" <news@nadelberg.com> wrote in message
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>I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours to
>transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.
>
> What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access point,
> and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the tivo, and
> a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works, and there seems
> to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.

I'd say the way you have it setup is a big part of the cause. With
wireless, each device has to wait for "quiet time" before it can speak. In
your case, the TiVo sends a packet, then waits while the repeater resends
it. the Access Point sends it's acknowledgement (while the TiVo still
waits) to the repeater, which then send it on to the TiVo. Repeat a whole
bunch of times.

And of course, everybody waits if another wireless device on the network
wants it's turn to speak.

Any way to get some wiring in the mix someplace? Maybe Ethernet from the
TiVo to a wireless bridge close enough to the access point so as to
eliminate the repeater? Or even better, wire all the way?

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Seth wrote:

> "Jon Nadelberg" <news@nadelberg.com> wrote in message
> news:edSdnburfIrUJ4vfRVn-2Q@rcn.net...
>
>> I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours
>> to transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.
>>
>> What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access
>> point, and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the
>> tivo, and a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works,
>> and there seems to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.
>
>
> I'd say the way you have it setup is a big part of the cause. With
> wireless, each device has to wait for "quiet time" before it can speak.
> In your case, the TiVo sends a packet, then waits while the repeater
> resends it. the Access Point sends it's acknowledgement (while the TiVo
> still waits) to the repeater, which then send it on to the TiVo. Repeat
> a whole bunch of times.
>
> And of course, everybody waits if another wireless device on the network
> wants it's turn to speak.
>
> Any way to get some wiring in the mix someplace? Maybe Ethernet from
> the TiVo to a wireless bridge close enough to the access point so as to
> eliminate the repeater? Or even better, wire all the way?
>


I just took a look at this again. It seems that a program on the tivo
box is not moving over at all. The transfer has ground to a halt.

So I have restarted the transfer, and it is simply sitting there, and
not moving. Is this one of the problems people are having?

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Jon Nadelberg wrote:
>
> I just took a look at this again. It seems that a program on the tivo
> box is not moving over at all. The transfer has ground to a halt.
>
> So I have restarted the transfer, and it is simply sitting there, and
> not moving. Is this one of the problems people are having?

I had this happen when I tried to move the Super Bowl over. Went for a few
hours then just died. After a few retries, I just canceled it. Not worth the
aggravation.

--
Dave

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dave saltz wrote:
> Jon Nadelberg wrote:
>
>>I just took a look at this again. It seems that a program on the tivo
>>box is not moving over at all. The transfer has ground to a halt.
>>
>>So I have restarted the transfer, and it is simply sitting there, and
>>not moving. Is this one of the problems people are having?
>
>
> I had this happen when I tried to move the Super Bowl over. Went for a few
> hours then just died. After a few retries, I just canceled it. Not worth the
> aggravation.
>

Funny thing. I looked at the destination folder, and the file was
actually there. So, it sent it over even though it said it was in queue
to go. The desktop was not being properly updated.

Also, found out you can go directly to the DVR from your web browser.
you simply go to https://<ip of the dvr>/ and it will take you to the
now playing list.

It asks for a ID and password. For the ID, you give it tivo, and for
the PW, you give it the Media Access Key.

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"Jon Nadelberg" <news@nadelberg.com> wrote in message
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>
> Funny thing. I looked at the destination folder, and the file was
> actually there. So, it sent it over even though it said it was in queue
> to go. The desktop was not being properly updated.

It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about with
TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create a file of
the total file size before the first byte is even written and then fill it
in.

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> It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about
> with TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create a
> file of the total file size before the first byte is even written and
> then fill it in.
>
>

Tivo-to-go seems to reflect actual amount transferred in my experience,
i.e. it increases over time.

Randy S.

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"Randy S." <rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about
>> with TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create a
>> file of the total file size before the first byte is even written and
>> then fill it in.
>
> Tivo-to-go seems to reflect actual amount transferred in my experience,
> i.e. it increases over time.

Well, that blows my theory out of the water, oh well.

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Seth wrote:

> "Randy S." <rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cv91fd$6e2$1@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu...
>
>>
>>> It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about
>>> with TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create
>>> a file of the total file size before the first byte is even written
>>> and then fill it in.
>>
>>
>> Tivo-to-go seems to reflect actual amount transferred in my
>> experience, i.e. it increases over time.
>
>
> Well, that blows my theory out of the water, oh well.
>

It was the entire program. I think TTG has a problem with being updated
properly. Amongst whatever else it has problems with.

At this speed, I guess I'd use it to download overnight. Not much use
otherwise.

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> It was the entire program. I think TTG has a problem with being updated
> properly. Amongst whatever else it has problems with.
>
> At this speed, I guess I'd use it to download overnight. Not much use
> otherwise.

For now it's definitely a set and forget type of setup for archiving
shows. You're better off waiting until you have a few shows to record,
queuing them up, and coming back later to record.

But, hey, before January the only way to do this was to seriously hack
the box!

Randy S.

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:02:20 -0800, Jon Nadelberg <news@nadelberg.com>
wrote:

>I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours to
>transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.
>
>What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access
>point, and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the
>tivo, and a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works, and
>there seems to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.


Hey, my Series 1 across the serial cable just finished this.

Name = 'G:\record\-'
fsIDs = '87146/87147'
Tivo Address = '10.168.55.20'
Connected...
DiffTime = 72799.323458 (72799320) == 1213.322121 Minutes
total = 754974720

I'm thinking twenty hours is a bit long for 35 or so minutes of video.
It is sure cool enough to make me order an ethernet card for it after
this post, and a lifetime sub.
I guess I should spring for the ram as well..

I believe the answer to your problem is to run cat-5 and plug it in to
your network. Wireless is nice to browse the internet in your
garden...and the airport.