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I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
the program guide just fine
via my internet connection.

My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.

I had to change the settings last night to start updating
via phone line because something has changed and now updating
the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."

I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


--
=========================================================
George L. Rachor Jr. george@rachors.com
Hillsboro, Oregon http:rachors.com
United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX

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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:01:03 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
Rachor) wrote:

>I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
>the program guide just fine
>via my internet connection.
>
>My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
>behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.
>
>I had to change the settings last night to start updating
>via phone line because something has changed and now updating
>the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
>the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
>before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
>try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>
>I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
>ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.

The way the Replay handles errors can be misleading. There can be a
failure near the beginning, then the process seems to get all the way
through before you're told about it.

Is your Replay set to get a dynamic local IP from the router? If so,
you may need to refresh it (because of ISP making changes). Otherwise,
check carefully. The ISP could have changed DNS servers.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."

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OK... I've been through completly refreshing the linksys <including dumping all the current leases and aquiring new addresses.>

I've verified the linksys and the replaytv have agreed on the ip address being used.
I've even tried using a diffent dns with no change.
Any idea where to troubleshoot next?

George
Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:01:03 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>Rachor) wrote:

>>I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
>>the program guide just fine
>>via my internet connection.
>>
>>My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
>>behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.
>>
>>I had to change the settings last night to start updating
>>via phone line because something has changed and now updating
>>the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
>>the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
>>before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
>>try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>>
>>I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
>>ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>>
>>Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>The way the Replay handles errors can be misleading. There can be a
>failure near the beginning, then the process seems to get all the way
>through before you're told about it.

>Is your Replay set to get a dynamic local IP from the router? If so,
>you may need to refresh it (because of ISP making changes). Otherwise,
>check carefully. The ISP could have changed DNS servers.

>--
>Mark Lloyd
>has a Replay 5xxx
>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>created and still runs this old universe is so
>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>still fall for that scam."
--
=========================================================
George L. Rachor Jr. george@rachors.com
Hillsboro, Oregon http:rachors.com
United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX

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I don' know about your ISP but I know my ISP dial up is very flaky
around 5am, Now, if I wait till 6am, it settles down and plays nice but
at 5am it's very flaky, I can't, for example, type a reply to a Usenet
message without re-connecting to the service.

Your ISP may also have an hour of the flake. Many do (it's the
maintance hour for the system). You may need to tell your replay to try
a different time of day for it's updates

George Rachor wrote:
> I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
> the program guide just fine
> via my internet connection.
>
> My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
> behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.
>
> I had to change the settings last night to start updating
> via phone line because something has changed and now updating
> the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
> the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
> before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
> try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>
> I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
> ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes

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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:41:38 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
Rachor) wrote:

>
>
>OK... I've been through completly refreshing the linksys <including dumping all the current leases and aquiring new addresses.>
>
>I've verified the linksys and the replaytv have agreed on the ip address being used.
>I've even tried using a diffent dns with no change.

You need to use the DNS abbresses provided by your ISP. Different ones
probably won't work.

BTW, one exception is if you're using WiRNS.

>Any idea where to troubleshoot next?
>

Looks like your computer (which I suppose is connected to the same
router) is working on usenet. Does the web work too? I think you may
not understand DNS too well, but it your computer works, it has
correct values. Make sure the Replay has the same ones.

>George
>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:01:03 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>>Rachor) wrote:
>
>>>I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
>>>the program guide just fine
>>>via my internet connection.
>>>
>>>My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
>>>behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.
>>>
>>>I had to change the settings last night to start updating
>>>via phone line because something has changed and now updating
>>>the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
>>>the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
>>>before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
>>>try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>>>
>>>I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
>>>ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>>The way the Replay handles errors can be misleading. There can be a
>>failure near the beginning, then the process seems to get all the way
>>through before you're told about it.
>
>>Is your Replay set to get a dynamic local IP from the router? If so,
>>you may need to refresh it (because of ISP making changes). Otherwise,
>>check carefully. The ISP could have changed DNS servers.
>
>>--
>>Mark Lloyd
>>has a Replay 5xxx
>>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>
>>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>>created and still runs this old universe is so
>>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>>still fall for that scam."

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."

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Hmmm, Probably not explaining the situation too well....

My Ascii art is horrid but:

ISP
|
ISP dsl modem
|
|
My linksys (Static IP)
DNS provided by ISP
---------------------------
| |
| |
my pc replaytv
DNS matches ISP DNS matches ISP
ip provided by ip provided by
linksys linksys


My pc is able to surf the net just fine. The replaytv seems to connect to the
network but fails to complete the transaction.

I just wish there was a better way to look at the actual transactions that replaytv
is trying. Perhaps a hub between the linksys and the replaytv with a
laptop running Etherreal network trace software is my next step.


George Rachor


Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:

>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:41:38 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>Rachor) wrote:

>>
>>
>>OK... I've been through completly refreshing the linksys <including dumping all the current leases and aquiring new addresses.>
>>
>>I've verified the linksys and the replaytv have agreed on the ip address being used.
>>I've even tried using a diffent dns with no change.

>You need to use the DNS abbresses provided by your ISP. Different ones
>probably won't work.

>BTW, one exception is if you're using WiRNS.

>>Any idea where to troubleshoot next?
>>

>Looks like your computer (which I suppose is connected to the same
>router) is working on usenet. Does the web work too? I think you may
>not understand DNS too well, but it your computer works, it has
>correct values. Make sure the Replay has the same ones.

>>George
>>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>>
>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:01:03 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>>>Rachor) wrote:
>>
>>>>I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
>>>>the program guide just fine
>>>>via my internet connection.
>>>>
>>>>My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
>>>>behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.
>>>>
>>>>I had to change the settings last night to start updating
>>>>via phone line because something has changed and now updating
>>>>the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
>>>>the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
>>>>before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
>>>>try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>>>>
>>>>I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
>>>>ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>>>>
>>>>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>
>>>The way the Replay handles errors can be misleading. There can be a
>>>failure near the beginning, then the process seems to get all the way
>>>through before you're told about it.
>>
>>>Is your Replay set to get a dynamic local IP from the router? If so,
>>>you may need to refresh it (because of ISP making changes). Otherwise,
>>>check carefully. The ISP could have changed DNS servers.
>>
>>>--
>>>Mark Lloyd
>>>has a Replay 5xxx
>>>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>>
>>>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>>>created and still runs this old universe is so
>>>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>>>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>>>still fall for that scam."

>--
>Mark Lloyd
>has a Replay 5xxx
>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>created and still runs this old universe is so
>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>still fall for that scam."
--
=========================================================
George L. Rachor Jr. george@rachors.com
Hillsboro, Oregon http:rachors.com
United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

Have you tried plugging the RTV directly into the dsl modem to eliminate
the router as the problem? Might be worth a try. If you do it reboot the
RTV by unplugging the ethernet cable, then the power cable. Wait 30
seconds, plug in the power then the ethernet cable. Worth trying that
with the router too.

From:George Rachor
george@agora.rdrop.com

> Hmmm, Probably not explaining the situation too well....
>
> My Ascii art is horrid but:
>
> ISP
> |
> ISP dsl modem
> |
> |
> My linksys (Static IP)
> DNS provided by ISP
> ---------------------------
> | |
> | |
> my pc replaytv
> DNS matches ISP DNS matches ISP
> ip provided by ip provided by
> linksys linksys
>
>
> My pc is able to surf the net just fine. The replaytv seems to
> connect to the network but fails to complete the transaction.
>
> I just wish there was a better way to look at the actual transactions
> that replaytv is trying. Perhaps a hub between the linksys and the
> replaytv with a
> laptop running Etherreal network trace software is my next step.
>
>
> George Rachor
>
>
> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:41:38 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>> Rachor) wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK... I've been through completly refreshing the linksys <including
>>> dumping all the current leases and aquiring new addresses.>
>>>
>>> I've verified the linksys and the replaytv have agreed on the ip
>>> address being used.
>>> I've even tried using a diffent dns with no change.
>
>> You need to use the DNS abbresses provided by your ISP. Different
>> ones probably won't work.
>
>> BTW, one exception is if you're using WiRNS.
>
>>> Any idea where to troubleshoot next?
>>>
>
>> Looks like your computer (which I suppose is connected to the same
>> router) is working on usenet. Does the web work too? I think you may
>> not understand DNS too well, but it your computer works, it has
>> correct values. Make sure the Replay has the same ones.
>
>>> George
>>> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:01:03 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>>>> Rachor) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was
>>>>> updateing
>>>>> the program guide just fine
>>>>> via my internet connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
>>>>> behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the
>>>>> ISP's equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to change the settings last night to start updating
>>>>> via phone line because something has changed and now updating
>>>>> the program guide via the network connection is failing. In
>>>>> watching
>>>>> the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
>>>>> before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
>>>>> try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
>>>>> ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>> The way the Replay handles errors can be misleading. There can be a
>>>> failure near the beginning, then the process seems to get all the
>>>> way through before you're told about it.
>>>
>>>> Is your Replay set to get a dynamic local IP from the router? If
>>>> so, you may need to refresh it (because of ISP making changes).
>>>> Otherwise, check carefully. The ISP could have changed DNS servers.
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mark Lloyd
>>>> has a Replay 5xxx
>>>> http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>>>
>>>> "The idea that there is an invisible being who
>>>> created and still runs this old universe is so
>>>> childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>>>> believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>>>> still fall for that scam."
>
>> --
>> Mark Lloyd
>> has a Replay 5xxx
>> http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>
>> "The idea that there is an invisible being who
>> created and still runs this old universe is so
>> childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>> believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>> still fall for that scam."
> --
> =========================================================
> George L. Rachor Jr. george@rachors.com
> Hillsboro, Oregon http:rachors.com
> United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX

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In this case the DNS address you should feed your replay is likely
192.168.1.1 (This is the default for Linksys Routers) or whatever the
routers's local area network IP address is. The router already has the
DNS address for your isp.. Else, you'd not be reading this message

George Rachor wrote:
> Hmmm, Probably not explaining the situation too well....
>
> My Ascii art is horrid but:
>
> ISP
> |
> ISP dsl modem
> |
> |
> My linksys (Static IP)
> DNS provided by ISP
> ---------------------------
> | |
> | |
> my pc replaytv
> DNS matches ISP DNS matches ISP
> ip provided by ip provided by
> linksys linksys
>
>
> My pc is able to surf the net just fine. The replaytv seems to connect to the
> network but fails to complete the transaction.
>
> I just wish there was a better way to look at the actual transactions that replaytv
> is trying. Perhaps a hub between the linksys and the replaytv with a
> laptop running Etherreal network trace software is my next step.
>
>
> George Rachor
>
>
> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>
>
>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:41:38 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>>Rachor) wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>OK... I've been through completly refreshing the linksys <including dumping all the current leases and aquiring new addresses.>
>>>
>>>I've verified the linksys and the replaytv have agreed on the ip address being used.
>>>I've even tried using a diffent dns with no change.
>
>
>>You need to use the DNS abbresses provided by your ISP. Different ones
>>probably won't work.
>
>
>>BTW, one exception is if you're using WiRNS.
>
>
>>>Any idea where to troubleshoot next?
>>>
>
>
>>Looks like your computer (which I suppose is connected to the same
>>router) is working on usenet. Does the web work too? I think you may
>>not understand DNS too well, but it your computer works, it has
>>correct values. Make sure the Replay has the same ones.
>
>
>>>George
>>>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:01:03 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>>>>Rachor) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
>>>>>the program guide just fine
>>>>>via my internet connection.
>>>>>
>>>>>My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
>>>>>behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to change the settings last night to start updating
>>>>>via phone line because something has changed and now updating
>>>>>the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
>>>>>the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
>>>>>before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
>>>>>try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
>>>>>ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>>The way the Replay handles errors can be misleading. There can be a
>>>>failure near the beginning, then the process seems to get all the way
>>>>through before you're told about it.
>>>
>>>>Is your Replay set to get a dynamic local IP from the router? If so,
>>>>you may need to refresh it (because of ISP making changes). Otherwise,
>>>>check carefully. The ISP could have changed DNS servers.
>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Mark Lloyd
>>>>has a Replay 5xxx
>>>>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>>>
>>>>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>>>>created and still runs this old universe is so
>>>>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>>>>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>>>>still fall for that scam."
>
>
>>--
>>Mark Lloyd
>>has a Replay 5xxx
>>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>
>
>>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>>created and still runs this old universe is so
>>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>>still fall for that scam."
>
> --
> =========================================================
> George L. Rachor Jr. george@rachors.com
> Hillsboro, Oregon http:rachors.com
> United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX

--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes

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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:35:43 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>In this case the DNS address you should feed your replay is likely
>192.168.1.1 (This is the default for Linksys Routers) or whatever the
>routers's local area network IP address is. The router already has the
>DNS address for your isp.. Else, you'd not be reading this message
>

192.168.1.1 is the default LAN IP, and gateway address (will be used
by computers to access the internet). This is very different from
DNS. Are you saying the router contains a DNS proxy as well? The
manual for my router says nothing about that. Could you give the model
number of one that does have that feature? It would be a useful one to
have.

Or is it you've confused "gateway" and "DNS"?

>George Rachor wrote:
>> Hmmm, Probably not explaining the situation too well....
>>
>> My Ascii art is horrid but:
>>
>> ISP
>> |
>> ISP dsl modem
>> |
>> |
>> My linksys (Static IP)
>> DNS provided by ISP
>> ---------------------------
>> | |
>> | |
>> my pc replaytv
>> DNS matches ISP DNS matches ISP
>> ip provided by ip provided by
>> linksys linksys
>>
>>
>> My pc is able to surf the net just fine. The replaytv seems to connect to the
>> network but fails to complete the transaction.
>>
>> I just wish there was a better way to look at the actual transactions that replaytv
>> is trying. Perhaps a hub between the linksys and the replaytv with a
>> laptop running Etherreal network trace software is my next step.
>>
>>
>> George Rachor
>>
>>
>> Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:41:38 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>>>Rachor) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>OK... I've been through completly refreshing the linksys <including dumping all the current leases and aquiring new addresses.>
>>>>
>>>>I've verified the linksys and the replaytv have agreed on the ip address being used.
>>>>I've even tried using a diffent dns with no change.
>>
>>
>>>You need to use the DNS abbresses provided by your ISP. Different ones
>>>probably won't work.
>>
>>
>>>BTW, one exception is if you're using WiRNS.
>>
>>
>>>>Any idea where to troubleshoot next?
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>Looks like your computer (which I suppose is connected to the same
>>>router) is working on usenet. Does the web work too? I think you may
>>>not understand DNS too well, but it your computer works, it has
>>>correct values. Make sure the Replay has the same ones.
>>
>>
>>>>George
>>>>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:01:03 -0600, george@agora.rdrop.com (George
>>>>>Rachor) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I've got a replaytv model 5508 that up until 2 weeks ago was updateing
>>>>>>the program guide just fine
>>>>>>via my internet connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My connection consists of the replaytv on a home network
>>>>>>behind a linksys router. That router is then connected to the ISP's equipment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had to change the settings last night to start updating
>>>>>>via phone line because something has changed and now updating
>>>>>>the program guide via the network connection is failing. In watching
>>>>>>the progress it looks like we get most of the way through
>>>>>>before getting a message that the update has failed and it will
>>>>>>try again later. The last message I see is "combining data ..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm trying to figure out if something has changed upstream with my
>>>>>>ISP or if something has happened to my Linksys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>>The way the Replay handles errors can be misleading. There can be a
>>>>>failure near the beginning, then the process seems to get all the way
>>>>>through before you're told about it.
>>>>
>>>>>Is your Replay set to get a dynamic local IP from the router? If so,
>>>>>you may need to refresh it (because of ISP making changes). Otherwise,
>>>>>check carefully. The ISP could have changed DNS servers.
>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Mark Lloyd
>>>>>has a Replay 5xxx
>>>>>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>>>>
>>>>>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>>>>>created and still runs this old universe is so
>>>>>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>>>>>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>>>>>still fall for that scam."
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>Mark Lloyd
>>>has a Replay 5xxx
>>>http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>>
>>
>>>"The idea that there is an invisible being who
>>>created and still runs this old universe is so
>>>childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
>>>believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
>>>still fall for that scam."
>>
>> --
>> =========================================================
>> George L. Rachor Jr. george@rachors.com
>> Hillsboro, Oregon http:rachors.com
>> United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."

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I use a D-Link DI-514 at home and a Linksys BFEW11S4 at work

Though I can see where you might think I'm confusing "Gateway" with
"DNS" the fact is you should. Where is the DNS, is it local to your LAN
or is it on the WAN (internet) The Gateway is the gateway to all of the
internet, This includes the DNS, Thus the IP address for all things
internet is 192.168.1.1 The router will then forward to the real DNS
(you may have to tell it what the real DNS IP address is) and to any
sites from there. That is why it's a router.

Mark Lloyd wrote:

>
> 192.168.1.1 is the default LAN IP, and gateway address (will be used
> by computers to access the internet). This is very different from
> DNS. Are you saying the router contains a DNS proxy as well? The
> manual for my router says nothing about that. Could you give the model
> number of one that does have that feature? It would be a useful one to
> have.
>
> Or is it you've confused "gateway" and "DNS"?
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:19:23 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I use a D-Link DI-514 at home and a Linksys BFEW11S4 at work
>
>Though I can see where you might think I'm confusing "Gateway" with
>"DNS" the fact is you should. Where is the DNS, is it local to your LAN
>or is it on the WAN (internet) The Gateway is the gateway to all of the
>internet, This includes the DNS, Thus the IP address for all things
>internet is 192.168.1.1

That would be nonsense. Like having a post office that always delivers
the mail correctly, even when everyhings addressed to "there".

> The router will then forward to the real DNS

Notice that:

1. That is not the way DCHP sets it for you.

2. The "gateway" is a sort of conduit. You still specify the actual
server addresses. Every time a web page is accessed, the program
(browser) used the IP address of the server. Same with DNS.

>
>(you may have to tell it what the real DNS IP address is)

The router will normally use DHCP to let the ISP set the DNS server
addresses,

>and to any
>sites from there.

>That is why it's a router.

This DNS proxy is a good thing, but it is not an essential function of
a router.

>

Unsually, I would have tried something that easy before posting about
it. I'm trying it now (no matter how unlikely it sounds). Suprisingly,
it seems to work. Note that this may or many not work with any other
router.

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> 192.168.1.1 is the default LAN IP, and gateway address (will be used
>> by computers to access the internet). This is very different from
>> DNS. Are you saying the router contains a DNS proxy as well? The
>> manual for my router says nothing about that. Could you give the model
>> number of one that does have that feature? It would be a useful one to
>> have.
>>
>> Or is it you've confused "gateway" and "DNS"?

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