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I'm considering getting a DVR and am confused by the many options. I
have Directv and am not sure if I should get a directv DVR with tivo, a
stand alone tivo unit, or replay tv. I noticed shop at home network had
some replay tv units very cheap last week but was not sure if the replay
service was as good or better than tivo. Can anyone help?

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Given that you've come to the Replay TV newsgroup you'll find that we're
mostly RTV cheerleaders here. I love the 7 RTV units I have but then I
have the older and more feature rich 5000 series rather than the
crippled and more TIVOlike 5500 series. If you can find a 5040 - 5320
model on ebay, buy it!

From:soxfan98@webtv.net
soxfan98@webtv.net

> I'm considering getting a DVR and am confused by the many options. I
> have Directv and am not sure if I should get a directv DVR with tivo,
> a stand alone tivo unit, or replay tv. I noticed shop at home network
> had some replay tv units very cheap last week but was not sure if the
> replay service was as good or better than tivo. Can anyone help?

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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:44:04 -0500, soxfan98@webtv.net wrote:

>I'm considering getting a DVR and am confused by the many options. I
>have Directv and am not sure if I should get a directv DVR with tivo, a
>stand alone tivo unit, or replay tv. I noticed shop at home network had
>some replay tv units very cheap last week but was not sure if the replay
>service was as good or better than tivo. Can anyone help?

The ReplayTV is more versatile, and integrated units (like directv
DVR) are less versatile. The 55xx Replays do lack a couple of features
of the earlier 5xxx units, but are still preferable to those others.

The only exception would be if you need a HD-compatible unit, since
Replay still doesn't make those.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh

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I've had both in the last two months, and I'd have to agree that the
replay is much more user-friendly. If you already have Directv, the
cost of only $5.00 a month activation and feeding both LNB outputs to
the unit really influenced my decision to go with the Directv/tivo
model. Pros are cost and being able to watch a different channel than
you are recording, without having to split anything. Con, no ethernet,
no convienent 30 sec commerial advance and a confusing control setup.


On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:16:25 -0600, Mark Lloyd
<mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:

>On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:44:04 -0500, soxfan98@webtv.net wrote:
>
>>I'm considering getting a DVR and am confused by the many options. I
>>have Directv and am not sure if I should get a directv DVR with tivo, a
>>stand alone tivo unit, or replay tv. I noticed shop at home network had
>>some replay tv units very cheap last week but was not sure if the replay
>>service was as good or better than tivo. Can anyone help?
>
>The ReplayTV is more versatile, and integrated units (like directv
>DVR) are less versatile. The 55xx Replays do lack a couple of features
>of the earlier 5xxx units, but are still preferable to those others.
>
>The only exception would be if you need a HD-compatible unit, since
>Replay still doesn't make those.

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> The reason I call it "more TIVOlike" is because it lacks the main
> features that distinguish it from TIVO.
> As for the importance of the two features, that of course, is
> subjective. I do find myself receiving or sending shows on a regular
> basis through Poopli and I REALLY do appreciate the automatic Commercial
> Advance just as I had on my RCA/Proscan VHS machines for the last 12
> years.

Removing IVS and making CA manual hardly make a Replay "TIVOlike". Tivo
couldn't even dream of the utility of Replays' networking, DVArchive,
and the web interface.

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Point taken, I didn't mean to imply that it became a TIVO but just had
less to distinguish itself from TIVO. I'd still buy a 5500 over a TIVO
but would always opt for a 5000 even if it's used.

From:Tony D
nospam@nospam.com

>> The reason I call it "more TIVOlike" is because it lacks the main
>> features that distinguish it from TIVO.
>> As for the importance of the two features, that of course, is
>> subjective. I do find myself receiving or sending shows on a regular
>> basis through Poopli and I REALLY do appreciate the automatic
>> Commercial Advance just as I had on my RCA/Proscan VHS machines for
>> the last 12 years.
>
> Removing IVS and making CA manual hardly make a Replay "TIVOlike".
> Tivo couldn't even dream of the utility of Replays' networking,
> DVArchive, and the web interface.

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In article <cJgNd.7425$e11.3611@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:

> No "Elmo," I stand by what I said. The 5500 is a crippled 5000 for
> exactly the two reasons you mentioned.

That doesn't make it "crippled" by any means. IVS is fun but
impractical, and while AUTOMATIC commercial advance is great and I use
it all the time, manual commercial advance is MUCH better than Tivo's
VCR-like fast forward, for example.

It's not like Tivo at all.



> The reason I call it "more TIVOlike" is because it lacks the main
> features that distinguish it from TIVO.

Main features? Let's see: commercial markers for commercial
advance--winner: Replay. Built in home networking--winner: Replay.
DVArchive to take full advantage of the networking--winner: Replay. 30
second QuickSkip--winner: Replay.

All of these things are on both the 5000 and 5500 series of Replays, and
not at all on Tivo. Now, tell the world again how the 5500 is more
Tivo-like?

The 5500 is not at all Tivo-like compared to the 5000 series. We're
talking exactly TWO differences, both of which are extremely esoteric
compared to the Tivo. Tivo doesn't even come close to the functionality
of the Replay, with or without those two features.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

>
> The 5500 has neither of those. However, it still marks commercial
> breaks;
>

Does it? So, if I receive a show that came from a 5500, will it skip
commercials when I play it back on a 5000? How about if I record it on
a 5500 and then watch it though a networked 5000? I have a 5500 on the
way and while it's simple enough to skip ahead, it would still be cool
to get CA via the other box.

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In article <L1pNd.25078$8H2.5452@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
pjs <pjs@_pjsdesigns.com> wrote:

> > The 5500 has neither of those. However, it still marks commercial
> > breaks;
> >
>
> Does it? So, if I receive a show that came from a 5500, will it skip
> commercials when I play it back on a 5000?

Received through IVS? It should, if everything came over with that show.


> How about if I record it on
> a 5500 and then watch it though a networked 5000?

Yep.

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>
> That doesn't make it "crippled" by any means. IVS is fun but
> impractical,

It would be hard to convince the 5000+ people on Poopli.

> and while AUTOMATIC commercial advance is great and I use
> it all the time, manual commercial advance is MUCH better than Tivo's
> VCR-like fast forward, for example.
>

I absolutely cannot see how people can use that dumb interface compared
to Replay's ability to move instantly to any point in a show or menu. I
once read a letter to the editor concerning a test report between a
Corvette and a Porsche 911. They were screaming about how close the
numbers were and how the report was biased because they choose the
Porsche despite the results being "the same". The editor replied "only
if you're sitting in a bucket of novocaine".

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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <L1pNd.25078$8H2.5452@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
> pjs <pjs@_pjsdesigns.com> wrote:

>>How about if I record it on
>>a 5500 and then watch it though a networked 5000?
>
>
> Yep.
>

Cool. My wife *hates* commercials, and when I let her use the remote,
she just keeps stabbing at the 30-second button until we're a couple
minutes into the actual show (drives me nuts; I've tried to explain the
press 3 and then the skip to jump three minutes but...).

The couple of times I've tried the scene navigation, it's jumped to the
end of the show, so I haven't played with it much.

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soxfan98@webtv.net wrote:
> I'm considering getting a DVR and am confused by the many options. I
> have Directv and am not sure if I should get a directv DVR with tivo, a
> stand alone tivo unit, or replay tv. I noticed shop at home network had
> some replay tv units very cheap last week but was not sure if the replay
> service was as good or better than tivo. Can anyone help?
>

Well, in all the basics the difference between RePlay and Tivo might
well not be noticed... But only in the basics, both allow you to
schedule recordings, pause, rewind, fastforward (up to "live" can't fast
forward past "live" ) and so forth.

Replay allows you to local network 2 or more units together, one or more
of those units may be a computer running a java program called DVARCHIVE

Older (50xx and older) units also do internet video sharing, sending
shows OVER the net, ifyou wish and allow. (55xxs won't do that)

The ability to control my Replay with my computer, from a different
room, or (Given enough warning) to schedule a show to record from...
Well, just about anywhere in the world (Via the web) and the ability to
share between models of the same family (50/55 in my case) made all the
difference in the world, Replay has had these features all along, TiVo
is starting to get the idea.

That is why I choose Replay

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OK, Elmo, you're absolutely right. The 5500 is every bit as good as the
5000. Want to trade me your now used 5000 for a brand new, in the box
5500 with a larger drive with whatever subscription plan you now have?
Unless your answer is an enthusiastic "yes!" my point is made. BTW, if
you do say "yes," be prepared to do it.

From:Elmo P. Shagnasty
elmop@nastydesigns.com

> In article <cJgNd.7425$e11.3611@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:
>
>> No "Elmo," I stand by what I said. The 5500 is a crippled 5000 for
>> exactly the two reasons you mentioned.
>
> That doesn't make it "crippled" by any means. IVS is fun but
> impractical, and while AUTOMATIC commercial advance is great and I use
> it all the time, manual commercial advance is MUCH better than Tivo's
> VCR-like fast forward, for example.
>
> It's not like Tivo at all.
>
>
>
>> The reason I call it "more TIVOlike" is because it lacks the main
>> features that distinguish it from TIVO.
>
> Main features? Let's see: commercial markers for commercial
> advance--winner: Replay. Built in home networking--winner: Replay.
> DVArchive to take full advantage of the networking--winner: Replay.
> 30 second QuickSkip--winner: Replay.
>
> All of these things are on both the 5000 and 5500 series of Replays,
> and not at all on Tivo. Now, tell the world again how the 5500 is
> more Tivo-like?
>
> The 5500 is not at all Tivo-like compared to the 5000 series. We're
> talking exactly TWO differences, both of which are extremely esoteric
> compared to the Tivo. Tivo doesn't even come close to the
> functionality of the Replay, with or without those two features.

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Tony D wrote:

> I absolutely cannot see how people can use that dumb interface compared
> to Replay's ability to move instantly to any point in a show or menu. I
> once read a letter to the editor concerning a test report between a
> Corvette and a Porsche 911. They were screaming about how close the
> numbers were and how the report was biased because they choose the
> Porsche despite the results being "the same". The editor replied "only
> if you're sitting in a bucket of novocaine".

ROFL

So, The VCR make my wife prefers Auto equivalent YUGO

The VCR Make I replaced her last "Yugo" with Hum... Chevy Lumina

Tivo... Mustang

Replay Porsch 911 Or perhaps a Testarosa (If I've spelled it right)
(That is not a porsch folks, it's all engine and fuel tank with 2 seats
and a few controls_

By the way ... Gave you read the write up on the new Ford "Go-Fast" car ?

You buy very expensive tires for that one cause the regular kind I have
on my Lumina... Well, they are only rated to 150 MPH and the new Ford
(As well as the top end Porsch and a few others) can slap 200MPH ON THE
WAY UP!!!!!. Now, there is fast, and there is faster, and that's WAY
TOO FAST unless you are a jet jockey flying an F-14 or some such

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pjs wrote:

> Cool. My wife *hates* commercials, and when I let her use the remote,
> she just keeps stabbing at the 30-second button until we're a couple
> minutes into the actual show (drives me nuts; I've tried to explain the
> press 3 and then the skip to jump three minutes but...).
>
> The couple of times I've tried the scene navigation, it's jumped to the
> end of the show, so I haven't played with it much.

Hey.... We married to the same wife?????

I won a 5040 on E-bay last month, paid of it on the 25th, Filed a
complaint with Pay Pal when it did not arrive (they impounded the funds)
and there was no contact with the seller (taht got his attention) he
blamed e-mail problems on my end (not) and then sent me a tracking
number for another package then apologized and sent me another tracking
number which says on Jan 27 it was received by the post office in CA
and, as of last check, it was still there. I'm not holding my breath.
Pay Pal IS holding my money (They have not released it to him)

However, Last night I had to go out and buy an USB hard drive. (The one
I had works,,, but it would not work for restorign a chrashed laptop)

While I was there I picked up a cheap Panasonic VCR (Beats the tapes out
of the Maganavox she was using plus the remote won't touch the other VCR
in the room)

Had a terrible time explaining to wife it was a VCR in spite of the big
3 inch high letters on the package..... Oh well.

At least it's working (not only did VCR-1 crash totaly, but the back up
Maganavox also failed completly... 10 minutes after I got home with a
Panasonic) I don't know what she's going to do when I plug in a Replay