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Hi!

Now you can see with your own eyes what player YOU prefer of the two:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/sho [...] id=4521075

What do you prefer?

/Mattias

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They're both impressive, I've never seen the EP. I laserdisc in action before.
Player B seems to have slightly deeper color but the difference is very slight.
Steve Grauman

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"Mattias Karlsson" <nin@beta.telenordia.se> wrote in message
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> Now you can see with your own eyes what player YOU prefer of the two:
> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/sho [...] id=4521075
>
> What do you prefer?

I prefer the one that can play both sides of the disc.

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They wont let me vote. A convicted felon in Florida I guess.
I vote for A

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Both have great black levels, IMO.

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<<What do you prefer?>>

<They're both impressive>

Exactly the kind of decisive and incisive answer I expect from Steve.
Even though a screen grab from a $49 DVD player would blow away both of the
"best of the best" LD players, Steve somehow manages to be impressed. It looks
like someone is trying very hard to nestle into the bosom of the NG.
Kraig

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>Even though a screen grab from a $49 DVD player would blow away both of the
>"best of the best" LD players

Geez, I don't seem to remember ever comparing those screen shots to the DVD.
Maybe I meant that I've never seen a laserdisc player look that good, and so I
used the word "impressive".

>It looks
>like someone is trying very hard to nestle into the bosom of the NG.

How about you go play in the street for awhile, little man? You're obviously
mentally ill and I think a boxing match with an SUV will keep you occupied for
a while.
Steve Grauman

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memnon2@ziplip.com (Chris W.) wrote in message news:<9fecf0b.0410181951.1fc9a8c@posting.google.com>...
> Both have great black levels, IMO.

I will do more comparission soon, just to see what player gives the
best picture. Right now, one can't really know if the skin-tone's on
the Star Wars is too red or not on the disc or if it's the player that
does it.
So do anyone have any reference LD they think I should use? I was
thinking about take Fifth element, but if anyone have some suggestion,
let me know.

Before that one cannot with 100% know what player gives the best
skin-tones. To my, the X0 give a more detail picture that is sharper
with better contrast/grey scale, something one can see in the
spaceship scene.

What player is easiest to buy (change sides, smaller, etc) is not what
I'm intrested in, just what gives the best pictures. Soon more
pictures, now when I know more how to do it.

So soon I can give you more pictures from other movies and I will have
a R7G player also too capture from (and I think I will have a CLD-925,
just to see the difference from an average player).

/Mattias

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Great idea, Mattias.
It would be perfect, if you could do some comparisons with an average player
like the CLD-925.

I have a suggestion.
The Video Essentials LaserDisc have a testframe with vertical lines in
smooth transition from low to high resolution.
That specific frame could give a good indication of the capabilities
regarding performance in resolution.
If you want, I could give you the exact framenumber later today.

I also want to support the "Fifth element" idea.
It's a common movie.

When you do the comparisons, I'll download your raw results, saving them for
reference.
One day I'd like to do a comparison with my own LD-V4300D.

I truly support your work.
It's original and very useful.
Thank you.

Kindest regards
--
Brian Hougaard Baldersbæk
Frejasvej 14
6400 Sønderborg
Denmark

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"Mattias Karlsson" <nin@beta.telenordia.se> wrote in message
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> I will do more comparission soon, just to see what player gives the
> best picture. Right now, one can't really know if the skin-tone's on
> the Star Wars is too red or not on the disc or if it's the player that
> does it.

Flesh tones can be adjusted at the display. What I'd be looking for is
moe detail and less noise.

> So do anyone have any reference LD they think I should use? I was
> thinking about take Fifth element, but if anyone have some suggestion,
> let me know.

Fifth Element is good. Austin Powers is also good.

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>So do anyone have any reference LD they think I should use?

I've been told that the later pressings of Terminator 2 and the live action
"Casper" movie are both considered to be reference quality discs. Maybe they'd
be worth trying? I know that The Fifth Element DVD is very well liked in terms
of it's quality, my SuperBit version looks fantastic, is the laserdisc as good?
Steve Grauman

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"[DK6400] Brian Baldersbæk" <DK6400BrianFJERN@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<41750144$0$23058$ba624c82@nntp05.dk.telia.net>...
> Great idea, Mattias.
> It would be perfect, if you could do some comparisons with an average player
> like the CLD-925.
>
> I have a suggestion.
> The Video Essentials LaserDisc have a testframe with vertical lines in
> smooth transition from low to high resolution.
> That specific frame could give a good indication of the capabilities
> regarding performance in resolution.
> If you want, I could give you the exact framenumber later today.
>
> I also want to support the "Fifth element" idea.
> It's a common movie.
>
> When you do the comparisons, I'll download your raw results, saving them for
> reference.
> One day I'd like to do a comparison with my own LD-V4300D.
>
> I truly support your work.
> It's original and very useful.
> Thank you.
>
> Kindest regards

Thanks for the VE disc, I will try this.

I will just get the parts for my computer and redo the test even
better and more fair.

/Mattias

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"Joshua Zyber" <jzyber@SPAMMERS-BITE-ME.mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<Ex7dd.1123$5i5.298@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> "Mattias Karlsson" <nin@beta.telenordia.se> wrote in message
> news:225c767a.0410190238.71e0ec03@posting.google.com...
> > I will do more comparission soon, just to see what player gives the
> > best picture. Right now, one can't really know if the skin-tone's on
> > the Star Wars is too red or not on the disc or if it's the player that
> > does it.
>
> Flesh tones can be adjusted at the display. What I'd be looking for is
> moe detail and less noise.

Yes, that is true. I will dig deeper into this for the ultimate test.
A swedish site is intrested in this as an article, but that will be in
Swedish, maybe I could do a English version for you site if you're
intrested.

>
> > So do anyone have any reference LD they think I should use? I was
> > thinking about take Fifth element, but if anyone have some suggestion,
> > let me know.
>
> Fifth Element is good. Austin Powers is also good.

I do that.

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"Mattias Karlsson" <nin@beta.telenordia.se> wrote in message
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> A swedish site is intrested in this as an article, but that will be in
> Swedish, maybe I could do a English version for you site if you're
> intrested.

If you write it, I'll post it, so long as the Swedish site doesn't
object.

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try Armageddon, the DTS-version

it's one of my favorite transfers


Troels


"Mattias Karlsson" <nin@beta.telenordia.se> wrote in message
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> memnon2@ziplip.com (Chris W.) wrote in message
news:<9fecf0b.0410181951.1fc9a8c@posting.google.com>...
> > Both have great black levels, IMO.
>
> I will do more comparission soon, just to see what player gives the
> best picture. Right now, one can't really know if the skin-tone's on
> the Star Wars is too red or not on the disc or if it's the player that
> does it.
> So do anyone have any reference LD they think I should use? I was
> thinking about take Fifth element, but if anyone have some suggestion,
> let me know.
>
> Before that one cannot with 100% know what player gives the best
> skin-tones. To my, the X0 give a more detail picture that is sharper
> with better contrast/grey scale, something one can see in the
> spaceship scene.
>
> What player is easiest to buy (change sides, smaller, etc) is not what
> I'm intrested in, just what gives the best pictures. Soon more
> pictures, now when I know more how to do it.
>
> So soon I can give you more pictures from other movies and I will have
> a R7G player also too capture from (and I think I will have a CLD-925,
> just to see the difference from an average player).
>
> /Mattias