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What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD counterparts?

Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better than
the DVD version?

Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs

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Curtin/Dobbs wrote:
> What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD counterparts?
>
> Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better than
> the DVD version?
>
> Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs

Titanic DTS laserdisc is far better then then dvd, especially the
soundtrack.

T.B.

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unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
easier to decode the same dts on dvd
"TB" <partyslammer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Curtin/Dobbs wrote:
> > What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD
counterparts?
> >
> > Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better
than
> > the DVD version?
> >
> > Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs
>
> Titanic DTS laserdisc is far better then then dvd, especially the
> soundtrack.
>
> T.B.
>

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On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
<ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:

>unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
>easier to decode the same dts on dvd
The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
digital output.
John

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"ron felder" <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser.
much
> easier to decode the same dts on dvd

You're thinking of Dolby Digital. DTS on laserdisc works exactly the
same as it works on DVD. All you need is a player with a Toslink or coax
digital output and a receiver that is compatible with DTS.

It's Dolby Digital that you need an RF-demodulator for, and is generally
a much bigger pain in the ass to decode from an LD.

TB
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Joshua Zyber wrote:
> "ron felder" <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ANGdnQvoUMQNIT_dRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>
>>unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser.
>
> much easier to decode the same dts on dvd
>
> You're thinking of Dolby Digital. DTS on laserdisc works exactly the
> same as it works on DVD. All you need is a player with a Toslink or coax
> digital output and a receiver that is compatible with DTS.
>
> It's Dolby Digital that you need an RF-demodulator for, and is generally
> a much bigger pain in the ass to decode from an LD.

Not to mention the dvd of Titanic doesn't have a DTS soundtrack.

T.B.

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"Curtin/Dobbs" <bodi@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> What are some laser disc titles that are better than their DVD
counterparts?
>
> Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality is much better
than
> the DVD version?
>
> Thanks...Curtin/Dobbs
>
>

Starstruck, the Australian musical is much better on LD than DVD. If there
were a DVD, perhaps my statement would bemore difficult to defend.

Dave

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The Japanese release of "The Last Emperor" on LD looks better than the DVD (in
my opinion).
-John
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The standard edition or the Director's Cut?

Rgds,
Julien


JohnFBeas wrote:

> The Japanese release of "The Last Emperor" on LD looks better than the DVD (in
> my opinion).
> -John
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JohnFBeas wrote:
> The Japanese release of "The Last Emperor" on LD looks better than the
> DVD (in my opinion).

Which DVD are you comparing it to? The US DVD of the "Director's Cut" is
garbage, but one disc of the Korean 2-disc DVD edition contains the
theatrical cut in a 16:9-enhanced transfer that, if not perfect, still
blows away my old US CAV LD. (I haven't seen the Japanese LD, so can't
compare it.)

And I don't believe the Korean DVD is censored, while it's my understanding
that the Japanese LD is:

"LDN reports that scenes of WW-II Japanese attrocities [sic] in China were
trimmed in the Japanese release of 'The Last Emperor'."

--Bob Niland, quoted at
<http://archive.cs.uu.nl/pub/MIDI/DOC/LaserDisc>

I don't know whether the Japanese LD is the "Director's Cut" or the
theatrical release: if the former, it may still be the best way to see the
DC. (And while I thought I'd heard a rumour that a better DVD of the DC was
on its way, I can't find any evidence to support it.)

doug

--
"If we listen quietly, we can hear them shooting from grave to grave..."
--XTC

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"John C." <john_c@amdmb.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
> <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
> >easier to decode the same dts on dvd
> The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
> just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
> digital output.
> John

My amp, a Harmon Kardon 330 specifically says not to use the digital input
with a laserdisk player.

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>>Which DVD are you comparing it to? The US DVD of the "Director's Cut" is
garbage, but one disc of the Korean 2-disc DVD edition contains the
theatrical cut in a 16:9-enhanced transfer that, if not perfect, still
blows away my old US CAV LD. (I haven't seen the Japanese LD, so can't
compare it.)>>

I was comparing the American release DVD to the Japanese LD directors cut.
Thanks for the info about the Korean 2 disc transfer - I didn't know there was
a better version out there. And yes, the Japanese version was edited. Can I
ask you where you bought the Korean version from?
-John


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On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:19:46 -0500, "Mook23" <no_one@no_where.com>
wrote:

>
>"John C." <john_c@amdmb.com> wrote in message
>news:4pg5a0dmg6jrf0ajsfq73ghq8npn2iqb9h@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
>> <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser. much
>> >easier to decode the same dts on dvd
>> The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
>> just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
>> digital output.
>> John
>
>My amp, a Harmon Kardon 330 specifically says not to use the digital input
>with a laserdisk player.
>
They must be referring to the AC3 RF output. That will not work with a
digital input. The optical or coax SPDIF output will work just fine,
same as a CD or DVD player output. (except will not pass the Dolby
Digital soundtrack).

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"Mook23" <no_one@no_where.com> wrote in message
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>
> "John C." <john_c@amdmb.com> wrote in message
> news:4pg5a0dmg6jrf0ajsfq73ghq8npn2iqb9h@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:08:46 -0400, "ron felder"
> > <ronfelder@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >unfortunately most people can't decode the dts soundtrack on laser.
much
> > >easier to decode the same dts on dvd
> > The same reciever or processor that will decode DTS on DVD will work
> > just fine on LD. You just need a LD player with an optical or coax
> > digital output.
> > John
>
> My amp, a Harmon Kardon 330 specifically says not to use the digital input
> with a laserdisk player.
>
>
If your LD player has a digital output you can definitely use it for DTS
LDs. Unless you have had your player modified , you have to use an RF
modulator between the LD player and your HK's digital input to get DD from
your DD encoded LD's.

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"Douglas Bailey" <trystero@world.std.com> wrote in message
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> Which DVD are you comparing it to? The US DVD of the "Director's Cut"
is
> garbage, but one disc of the Korean 2-disc DVD edition contains the
> theatrical cut in a 16:9-enhanced transfer that, if not perfect, still
> blows away my old US CAV LD.

KoreanDVDs.com and DVDHeaven.com both list the Korean release of The
Last Emperor as the Director's Cut:

http://www.koreandvds.com/dvddetail.html?id=14254
http://www.dvdheaven.com/list_deta [...] 1&idx=7869

Is the copy you have a different edition?

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"Curtin/Dobbs" <bodi@comcast.net> wrote:

> What are some laser disc titles that are better than
> their DVD counterparts?

FEARLESS. The LD is widescreen, the DVD is fullscreen. Ditto
for ALPHAVILLE -- Criterion's LD was widescreen, but they
released their DVD fullscreen at Godard's request.

> Specifically, what are some lasers whose picture quality
> is much better than the DVD version?

The Hong Kong import DVD of RAISE THE RED LANTERN is widescreen
while the Columbia domestic LD is fullscreen. However, the
LD's image has a sharper picture, and richer color.

-- jayembee