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I have been reading many negative comments on this newsgroup, so thought
it best to submit my opinion:

Their customer service on the telephone is the best I have experienced.

Their local store has many extras for my Nokia, and their staff is very
courteous. In fact they had a stereo earphone adapter for only $3 which
I could not locate by calling six independent stores.

The only thing I don't like about the store is that it can be busy and
the wait long, but then what cell phone store doesn't have that
difficulty? To resolve that, I do as in most other instances, telephone
to see if they have what I want and at what cost, then go to the store.

The monthly cost of $40 is reasonable and a one-year contract is reasonable.

Miles

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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:55:46 GMT, "Richard J. Wyble" wrote:
>This is categorically false information, as evidenced by the
>new Nokia 6230 in my pocket. I purchased it from a Cingular
>storefront (not an agent/dealer but a Cingular company
>store), five months into a two-year Cingular contract,
>paying retail price without it affecting my service contract
>in any way.

Yes, but you had to pay for it..

It's entirely unfair the he should have to pay for a new electronic
device.. when Cingular clearly has extras!

MP-
--
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B.F. Skinner

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> Not true Miles. No new contract, no new phone---even if you pay full
> price for the phone.


I've been unhappy with Cingular for a variety of reasons, however, I
purchased a new Treo at a Cingular store without a new contract. Maybe your
local store is making their own policy.

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In article <8fGdnfaCBIo6TnnfRVn-1A@giganews.com>, hotel@jay.com says...
>
> Not true Miles. No new contract, no new phone---even if you pay full price
> for the phone.
>
>

BBB,

I don't know why you think this but it's simply not correct. I've had
to change phones with Cingular a couple of times over the years where I
choose to pay full price and not extend the contract and I've never had
them question it--they just entered the new phone info and never touched
the contract otherwise. In fact I did that once when the contract had
already expired and gone to month-to-month and I knew I was going to
have to change plans in the next year but didn't want to immediately.
New phone--no new contract at all. I just recently inquired about the
SX66 pdaphone and was offered it for full price on my existing month-to-
month account--no mention of renewing the expired contract which was
clearly on their screen.

Maybe you got ahold of a salesperson who was an idiot or you were trying
to buy a phone at the subsidized price or trying to ADD the phone
instead of substitute it for an existing phone or maybe even your
account has been flagged for some reason but I CAN state for a fact that
Cingular will sell you a phone for full price without extending the
contract.
--
Jud
Dallas TX USA

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"BBB" <hotel@jay.com> wrote in message
news:8fGdnfaCBIo6TnnfRVn-1A@giganews.com...
> Not true Miles. No new contract, no new phone---even if you pay full
> price for the phone.
>
>

That's for the *dumb* ones like you. All the smart people are allowed to buy
a new phone, at any time, providing they pay full price or a eligible for a
new contract priced phone.

So sorry about your luck... see there really is advantage to not dropping
out school... and avoiding drugs.

AL

P.S. I have bought a phone before no problems. And then I'll give you a
clue... e-Bay!

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TROLL ALERT!

"BBB" <hotel@jay.com> wrote in message
news:tpWdnf8zZs0nTnnfRVn-rQ@giganews.com...
> Simply not true.

TROLL ALERT! Or possibly the stupidest person without a clue on this
newsgroup.

AL

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In <A9CdnVi3i6QQ7n7fRVn-gw@giganews.com> on Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:55:05 -0500,
"BBB" <hotel@jay.com> wrote:

>> Their local store has many extras for my Nokia, and their staff is very
>> courteous. In fact they had a stereo earphone adapter for only $3 which I
>> could not locate by calling six independent stores.
>
>Just try buying a new Nokia, without a service plan. ...

No problem here.

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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It is alleged that Mangus Pyke claimed:

; On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:55:46 GMT, "Richard J. Wyble" wrote:
; >This is categorically false information, as evidenced by the
; >new Nokia 6230 in my pocket. I purchased it from a Cingular
; >storefront (not an agent/dealer but a Cingular company
; >store), five months into a two-year Cingular contract,
; >paying retail price without it affecting my service contract
; >in any way.
;
; Yes, but you had to pay for it..

Yes, like most people, he realizes that to obtain something legally,
you usually have to pay for it.

; It's entirely unfair the he should have to pay for a new electronic
; device.. when Cingular clearly has extras!

Why is it unfair to pay the full price for something when you obviously
do not qualify for a discount?

I have a Treo 650. After experiencing some problems with it during the
first three weeks, I was told I had a defective unit and since it was
within the first month, I could simply exchange it at a Cingular
corporate store, so I did. If it breaks during the warrantee period, I
would expect to get it replaced by the terms of the warrantee. After
that, I'm on my own. If I need to replace it, I will be expected to
pay the full retail price or renew my contract for an additional year
or two, because normally you only get a discount (ie, the subsidized
price) on new contracts.

The retail vs discount price is about half. The unlocked GSM version
is $700 direct from Palm, and I paid $400 through Cingular. (If I got
a data plan too, they'd have knocked another $50 off the price.)

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
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"You're close to the Chief..." "No... no way in HELL! I won't do it."
"Look, all I'm asking you to do is to go to him, be real earnest, tell
him that you know something's going on and you want to help."
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BBB wrote:
> Simply not true.

It IS true. I've verified this. Anyone can walk into a Cingular store
and see it for themselves.

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Mangus Pyke wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:55:46 GMT, "Richard J. Wyble" wrote:
>
>>This is categorically false information, as evidenced by the
>>new Nokia 6230 in my pocket. I purchased it from a Cingular
>>storefront (not an agent/dealer but a Cingular company
>>store), five months into a two-year Cingular contract,
>>paying retail price without it affecting my service contract
>>in any way.
>
>
> Yes, but you had to pay for it..
>
> It's entirely unfair the he should have to pay for a new electronic
> device.. when Cingular clearly has extras!

Yeah, people with that kind of mentality amaze me. As if Motorola and
Nokia were charities, handing out sleek new RAZRs and 6230's out like
candy.


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BBB wrote:

> Not true Miles. No new contract, no new phone---even if you pay full price
> for the phone.

Given your posting history, I get the impression that you're spouting
this misinformation out like gospel because you want to draw people to
that cellphone sales website you've been shilling all this time (I won't
name it because I will not help you spam the newsgroup as you've been
doing).

Oh by the way: I checked the prices there. Amazon's no-contract prices
are FAR cheaper. But if you absolutely, positively, must have a phone
in your hands today, you CAN walk into a Cingular store and get a new
phone for full price, without a new commitment.


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* Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. <jackru$$ell2@notmail.com>
* Newsgroup: alt.cellular.cingular
* Reply to: All; "BBB" <hotel@jay.com>
* Date:Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:31:34 -0500
* Subj: Re: Cingular - another opinion
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B>Not true Miles. No new contract, no new phone---even if you pay
B>full price for the phone.

Absolutely false. No new contract, no new *subsidized* phone. Anyone can buy a phone from any Cingular storefront by paying *full price* for the phone...NO CONTRACT involved.

--
Jack

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:12:08 GMT, Miles
<mileschap@REMOVEMEpacbell.net> wrote:

>
>Why do you think the world owes you a living? Of course, Cingular will
>expect a contract of at least one year for a discount on a phone, and
>perhaps free if a two-year contract. If you don't want a contract, they
>will simply sell the phone to you at the retail price. They are the same
>as most other corporations in a free competitive world, they are not a
>non-profit charitable institution

You're not serious, right? The ideal that the price of cellular
phones is in any way part of the "free competitive world" is extremely
naive.

The carriers are keeping a stranglehold on the equipment to keep
competition out of the equation.

They have the prices of most cellular phones inflated to incredible
levels and are using the "free" phone gimmick as a mechanism to keep
their customers locked into long contracts.

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In <6hlce15cs8ukq1i0m66dngonc71hsorirp@4ax.com> on Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:37:33
GMT, "Steevo@my-deja.com" <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:12:08 GMT, Miles
><mileschap@REMOVEMEpacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>Why do you think the world owes you a living? Of course, Cingular will
>>expect a contract of at least one year for a discount on a phone, and
>>perhaps free if a two-year contract. If you don't want a contract, they
>>will simply sell the phone to you at the retail price. They are the same
>>as most other corporations in a free competitive world, they are not a
>>non-profit charitable institution
>
>You're not serious, right? The ideal that the price of cellular
>phones is in any way part of the "free competitive world" is extremely
>naive.
>
>The carriers are keeping a stranglehold on the equipment to keep
>competition out of the equation.
>
>They have the prices of most cellular phones inflated to incredible
>levels and are using the "free" phone gimmick as a mechanism to keep
>their customers locked into long contracts.

Nonsense. Unlocked (unsubsidized) phones are freely available at competitive
prices from independent dealers.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>