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I'm American and I have what my cellphone users manual calls a "travel
adapter", but of course it has a plug for American 110 outlets. I'm
going to Ukraine for 10 days and I have a GSM phone and I've purchased a
Ukraine SIM, but I would like to be able to recharge by phone from their
220 outlets. I've done a google search on "travel adapter converter" and
only came back with a place the sells plug adaptors which presumably
would have no effect on the change current being received by the travel
adapter.

So here is the question. Has anyone here tried to recharge their
cellphone in Europe with an American travel adapter plugged directly
into European outlets? Wouldn't the change in current harm the
cellphone? If it makes a difference I currently have a Cingular 1300i
and will soon be getting a Motorola v66 as backup.

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Lexx Luthar <superpic25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So here is the question. Has anyone here tried to recharge their
> cellphone in Europe with an American travel adapter plugged directly
> into European outlets? Wouldn't the change in current harm the
> cellphone? If it makes a difference I currently have a Cingular 1300i
> and will soon be getting a Motorola v66 as backup.

I don't think I've ever seen a cell phone charger that didn't work on
both 110 and 220. But why not just check? The input voltage range will be
listed on the charger, either on a label or molded directly into the plastic
shell. If it says something like "INPUT: 100-240VAC" then it will not harm your
phone no matter where you plug it in. On the other hand if it says "100-120"
or so, then you will need a new charger. I would expect you could find one
in Ukraine without difficulty.

miguel
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Lexx Luthar <superpic25@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm American and I have what my cellphone users manual calls a
> "travel adapter", but of course it has a plug for American 110
> outlets. I'm going to Ukraine for 10 days and I have a GSM phone
> and I've purchased a Ukraine SIM, but I would like to be able to
> recharge by phone from their 220 outlets.

As Miguel said: Chances are 99.9% that you charger can handle
220/230 volts. Btw, does your phone support 900/1800 bands?

M.

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Thanks Miguel Cruz and Michael Pronay for taking the time to answer my
post. I've since looked closely at my adaptor and it does indicate input
for 100-240V, so I guess you're right and I'm OK to plug in in Europe.

thanks again.

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"Lexx Luthar" <superpic25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Miguel Cruz and Michael Pronay for taking the time to answer my
> post. I've since looked closely at my adaptor and it does indicate
> input
> for 100-240V, so I guess you're right and I'm OK to plug in in Europe.

But you still need a plug adapter though.

Rudy

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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:01:28 GMT, Lexx Luthar <superpic25@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I'm American and I have what my cellphone users manual calls a "travel
>adapter", but of course it has a plug for American 110 outlets. I'm
>going to Ukraine for 10 days and I have a GSM phone and I've purchased a
>Ukraine SIM, but I would like to be able to recharge by phone from their
>220 outlets. I've done a google search on "travel adapter converter" and
>only came back with a place the sells plug adaptors which presumably
>would have no effect on the change current being received by the travel
>adapter.
>
>So here is the question. Has anyone here tried to recharge their
>cellphone in Europe with an American travel adapter plugged directly
>into European outlets? Wouldn't the change in current harm the
>cellphone? If it makes a difference I currently have a Cingular 1300i
>and will soon be getting a Motorola v66 as backup.

If you look at the charger it will say what voltages are permitted.
If it's a "world" phone more than likely it has a charger that can be
used with North American or Euro/Asian electric current. You will
need an adaptor plug to change from the twin bladed North American
plug to the two pin plugs used in the Ukraine and in most of Europe
with a major exception being the UK. These adapter plugs will more
than likely be sold at Radio Shack or any place that sells luggage and
other travel accessories. You can also often find these adaptor plugs
at airport shops. Also in major cities you may also even find these
at "dollar" stores.
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005, at 23:39:25 [GMT GMT] (09:39:25 Thursday, 4 August 2005
where I live) "Lexx Luthar" wrote:

> Thanks Miguel Cruz and Michael Pronay for taking the time to answer my
> post. I've since looked closely at my adaptor and it does indicate input
> for 100-240V, so I guess you're right and I'm OK to plug in in Europe.

Not much use however if your phone douse not have GSM900 or 1800.

See http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ua.shtml

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On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 17:15:17 +1000, John
Phillips<flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005, at 23:39:25 [GMT GMT] (09:39:25 Thursday, 4 August 2005
>where I live) "Lexx Luthar" wrote:
>
>> Thanks Miguel Cruz and Michael Pronay for taking the time to answer my
>> post. I've since looked closely at my adaptor and it does indicate input
>> for 100-240V, so I guess you're right and I'm OK to plug in in Europe.
>
>Not much use however if your phone douse not have GSM900 or 1800.

Well, it would be pretty silly to provide a charger that was capable
of 240V if they couldn't use it in a country that used 240V now
wouldn't it?!
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There is a good chance that his phone has one of the 2 bands used in
europe (900/1800). Especially considering that his charger is 100-240v


John Phillips Wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Aug 2005, at 23:39:25 [GMT GMT] (09:39:25 Thursday, 4 August
> 2005
> where I live) "Lexx Luthar" wrote:
> -
> Thanks Miguel Cruz and Michael Pronay for taking the time to answer
> my
> post. I've since looked closely at my adaptor and it does indicate
> input
> for 100-240V, so I guess you're right and I'm OK to plug in in
> Europe.-
>
> Not much use however if your phone douse not have GSM900 or 1800.
>
> See http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ua.shtml
>
> --
> PCMCIA = People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms


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Joseph wrote:

> Well, it would be pretty silly to provide a charger that was
> capable of 240V if they couldn't use it in a country that used
> 240V now wouldn't it?!

On the contrary. Why make different chargers for 900/1800 and
850/1900 mHz phone models?

John

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Joseph wrote:

> Cost? Perhaps it costs more money to make a charger that can
> do both 120 and 240 vs either made just for 120 or just for
> 240.
> Nokia provides ACP7 chargers for their country specific needs.
> For North America they provide a charger with flat blades and
> rated at 120V 60 Hz. while for Europe they provide ACP7
> chargers with round pin plugs rated at 240V 50 Hz. It's meant
> for those specific needs.

Maybe I should have covered that aspect. A switch-mode power
supply can easily be designed to operate on the wider voltage
range, and then manufactured in greater quantity because of its
flexibility. Attaching a country-specific plug as the last
stage in manufacture should be straightforward.

If the economics are different or some reason, then so be it.

John

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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005, at 08:43:30 [GMT -0700] (01:43:30 Sunday, 7 August 2005
where I live) "Joseph" wrote:

> Well, it would be pretty silly to provide a charger that was capable
> of 240V if they couldn't use it in a country that used 240V now
> wouldn't it?!

Not really. Cheaper to manufacture a dual voltage charger for sale
throughout the world than have specific chargers for each country.

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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005, at 20:01:40 [GMT -0700] (13:01:40 Thursday, 4 August
2005 where I live) "Joseph" wrote:

> If it's a "world" phone more than likely it has a charger that can be
> used with North American or Euro/Asian electric current.

Not necessarily correct. Dual band Nokia phones sold in Australia, which
will not work in USA, all have universal voltage chargers - reason? - refer
my other post.

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mrcamp <mrcamp.1tcy9m@news.cellbanter.com> wrote:


> There is a good chance that his phone has one of the 2 bands
> used in europe (900/1800). Especially considering that his
> charger is 100-240v

The charger has nothing whatsoever to do with the bands. They are
not even manufactured by the same companies, but bought in. Even
the oldest chargers I know of were 100-240V, at times where 900mHz
single band phones were standard in Europe.

M.

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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:30:02 +1000, John
Phillips<flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Aug 2005, at 08:43:30 [GMT -0700] (01:43:30 Sunday, 7 August 2005
>where I live) "Joseph" wrote:
>
>> Well, it would be pretty silly to provide a charger that was capable
>> of 240V if they couldn't use it in a country that used 240V now
>> wouldn't it?!
>
>Not really. Cheaper to manufacture a dual voltage charger for sale
>throughout the world than have specific chargers for each country.

Are you privy to the costs? If not it's just your speculation.

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