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Verizon released the Treo 650 today.
 
A question though.  I have both Verizon and TMobile service.  I use  
TMobile for travel to Europe with a SonyErricson T610.  As I understand  
it the Treo uses a SIM card.  Is it possible to take out the Verizon SIM  
and replace it with the TMobile SIM and use the phone with TMobile and  
vice-versa?
 
How would one go about doing this since TMobile does not carry the 650  
and according to their rep they have no plans to carry it.
 
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"Carl Price" <carl.price@comcast.REMOVETHIS.net> wrote in message  
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> Verizon released the Treo 650 today.
>
> A question though.  I have both Verizon and TMobile service.  I use
> TMobile for travel to Europe with a SonyErricson T610.  As I understand
> it the Treo uses a SIM card.  Is it possible to take out the Verizon SIM
> and replace it with the TMobile SIM and use the phone with TMobile and
> vice-versa?
>
> How would one go about doing this since TMobile does not carry the 650
> and according to their rep they have no plans to carry it.
>
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This phone is probably "locked" so that it will only work with Verizon SIM  
cards. I know this holds true for the Treo 650 being sold by Cingular.  
However, for about $20 to $30, you can have it "unlocked" so that it will  
take any SIM card.

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this phone will work with GSM and CDMA after being unlocked? I didn't
know CDMA even had SIM cards...
 
On Wed, 25 May 2005 15:11:36 GMT, "punk-tilous"
<punktilious@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
>
>"Carl Price" <carl.price@comcast.REMOVETHIS.net> wrote in message  
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>> Verizon released the Treo 650 today.
>>
>> A question though.  I have both Verizon and TMobile service.  I use
>> TMobile for travel to Europe with a SonyErricson T610.  As I understand
>> it the Treo uses a SIM card.  Is it possible to take out the Verizon SIM
>> and replace it with the TMobile SIM and use the phone with TMobile and
>> vice-versa?
>>
>> How would one go about doing this since TMobile does not carry the 650
>> and according to their rep they have no plans to carry it.
>>
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>> Take out the "REMOVE" in the return address to reply
>
>This phone is probably "locked" so that it will only work with Verizon SIM  
>cards. I know this holds true for the Treo 650 being sold by Cingular.  
>However, for about $20 to $30, you can have it "unlocked" so that it will  
>take any SIM card.  
>

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The phone released by Verizon is different that the same phone from other  
carriers.  The Verizon model is CDMA only and does not have a SIM Card that  
can be taken out and changed.
 
Bruce D. Brown
 
"Carl Price" <carl.price@comcast.REMOVETHIS.net> wrote in message  
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> Verizon released the Treo 650 today.
>
> A question though.  I have both Verizon and TMobile service.  I use
> TMobile for travel to Europe with a SonyErricson T610.  As I understand
> it the Treo uses a SIM card.  Is it possible to take out the Verizon SIM
> and replace it with the TMobile SIM and use the phone with TMobile and
> vice-versa?
>
> How would one go about doing this since TMobile does not carry the 650
> and according to their rep they have no plans to carry it.
>
> --  
> Take out the "REMOVE" in the return address to reply

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Carl Price wrote:
> Verizon released the Treo 650 today.
>
> A question though.  I have both Verizon and TMobile service.  I use
> TMobile for travel to Europe with a SonyErricson T610.  As I
> understand it the Treo uses a SIM card.  Is it possible to take out
> the Verizon SIM and replace it with the TMobile SIM and use the phone
> with TMobile and vice-versa?
>
> How would one go about doing this since TMobile does not carry the 650
> and according to their rep they have no plans to carry it.
 
There are two Treo 650 models. The one using a SIM is the quadband GSM
model. The one Verizon (and Sprint) have is a dualband CDMA model, no SIM
allowed.Visit http://www.palmone.com/ .
 
John C.

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On Wed, 25 May 2005 00:43:34 -0400, Carl Price
<carl.price@comcast.REMOVETHIS.net> wrote:
 
>Verizon released the Treo 650 today.
>
>A question though.  I have both Verizon and TMobile service.  I use  
>TMobile for travel to Europe with a SonyErricson T610.  As I understand  
>it the Treo uses a SIM card.  Is it possible to take out the Verizon SIM  
>and replace it with the TMobile SIM and use the phone with TMobile and  
>vice-versa?
>
>How would one go about doing this since TMobile does not carry the 650  
>and according to their rep they have no plans to carry it.
 
Impossible.
 
Verizon (and Sprint) uses a different technology than other carriers.
It's called CDMA and (at least in the US implementation) does NOT use
a SIM card.  If you want to use a GSM  phone you'll need to get the
phone from Cingular or T-Mobile. (I don't think T-Mobile has the 650
yet, but at least it uses GSM with a SIM card.)
 
The two phones (Treo 650- CDMA and Treo 650-GSM) are very different
and are not interchangable.

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No,
 
The Verizon model is totally different that the T-Mobile version.  The  
Verizon model uses CDMA technology while the T-Mobile uses GSM technology.  
There is not a sim card in the Verizon phone to change or replace.
 
In other words the answer is "NO."
 
Bruce D. Brown
 
"singha_lvr" <singha_lvr@nospam.net> wrote in message  
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> On Wed, 25 May 2005 00:43:34 -0400, Carl Price
> <carl.price@comcast.REMOVETHIS.net> wrote:
>
>>Verizon released the Treo 650 today.
>>
>>A question though.  I have both Verizon and TMobile service.  I use
>>TMobile for travel to Europe with a SonyErricson T610.  As I understand
>>it the Treo uses a SIM card.  Is it possible to take out the Verizon SIM
>>and replace it with the TMobile SIM and use the phone with TMobile and
>>vice-versa?
>>
>>How would one go about doing this since TMobile does not carry the 650
>>and according to their rep they have no plans to carry it.
>
> Impossible.
>
> Verizon (and Sprint) uses a different technology than other carriers.
> It's called CDMA and (at least in the US implementation) does NOT use
> a SIM card.  If you want to use a GSM  phone you'll need to get the
> phone from Cingular or T-Mobile. (I don't think T-Mobile has the 650
> yet, but at least it uses GSM with a SIM card.)
>
> The two phones (Treo 650- CDMA and Treo 650-GSM) are very different
> and are not interchangable.
>