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Hi!

While ago I bought Nokia 6600 Smartphone which has a VGA resolution
camera. As I basically carry it where ever I go, I have been taking
quite a collection of photos. The problem however is that printing out
the 640x480 resolution photos is quite useless, the outcome is poor.

One day I thought that it could be fairly easy to use any photo/image
editing software to combine four VGA photos to one image and print it
out. Outcome would be a index-print style picture with four small
photos in one photo printout. I did few tryouts and the result looked
amazingly good. One could even think about cutting out the small
photos...

Creating these images, drawing white borders etc.. took me few minutes
for each image. I wanted some manner to automate this process and well,
the outcome is a web-page called http://www.smartpics.net . You can
enter the site, register and start to create your own images, which I
call Smartpics.

As I published the site just few days ago, it would be nice to get a
bit of feedback from you guys. All the critics would be appreciated,

Yours Faithfully,

Jouni Kuisma

P.S I am still running some testing especially for browser
compatibility, so please be patient if you find some errors....

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<jonkke@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi!
>
> While ago I bought Nokia 6600 Smartphone which has a VGA resolution
> camera. As I basically carry it where ever I go, I have been taking
> quite a collection of photos. The problem however is that printing out
> the 640x480 resolution photos is quite useless, the outcome is poor.
>
Do people really expect anything worthwhile from camera phones? Visually,
there may be enough clues to remember what the scene was, but then when
printed???
It amazes me when I'm out somewhere with my 16+ megapixel beast seeing
people taking pix of the same scene with a telephone!? What can they really
expect out of this exercise?

H.

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Hannah wrote:
[]
> It amazes me when I'm out somewhere with my 16+ megapixel beast seeing
> people taking pix of the same scene with a telephone!? What can they
> really expect out of this exercise?

Pictures good enough for display on TV.

David

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The good point about phone cameras is that it's basically always with
you... Naturally the quality of the photos with your "beast" camera is
on totally different level, but I can hardly imagine that one fitting
into a handbag? It could I guess, but I believe you get my point. Both
mentioned types of cameras have their distinct uses, don't you think
so?

And the point is actually just what you asked: I would like to expect
something wortwhile from my phonecam. With it's VGA resolution, the use
of the photos is very limited, veeery limited. The point of the website
i mentioned (http://www.smartpics.net)was to bring out into a
discussion one possible way to print out photos taken with mobile phone
cameras. For this, the resolution is sufficient and printouts look very
nice. The whole point is, like you know if you checked the site, is
that when printed out into 10x15cm paper, each of four photos occupies
5x7.5cm.

Haven't anybody actually ever tried to print out their camphone photos
in this manner? (whatever camera / resolution...)

Jouni

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jonkke@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi!
>
> While ago I bought Nokia 6600 Smartphone which has a VGA resolution
> camera. As I basically carry it where ever I go, I have been taking
> quite a collection of photos. The problem however is that printing out
> the 640x480 resolution photos is quite useless, the outcome is poor.
>
> One day I thought that it could be fairly easy to use any photo/image
> editing software to combine four VGA photos to one image and print it
> out. Outcome would be a index-print style picture with four small
> photos in one photo printout. I did few tryouts and the result looked
> amazingly good. One could even think about cutting out the small
> photos...
>
> Creating these images, drawing white borders etc.. took me few minutes
> for each image. I wanted some manner to automate this process and well,
> the outcome is a web-page called http://www.smartpics.net . You can
> enter the site, register and start to create your own images, which I
> call Smartpics.
>
> As I published the site just few days ago, it would be nice to get a
> bit of feedback from you guys. All the critics would be appreciated,
>
> Yours Faithfully,
>
> Jouni Kuisma
>
> P.S I am still running some testing especially for browser
> compatibility, so please be patient if you find some errors....
>


you can capture a thief by taking a picture of the license plate, for
instant. There are many uses, but I'd prefer to get one with at least
2MP and not too pricey.

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I have captured loads of moments with my phone's camera that I would
otherwise have missed. It's not about the quality, they jog memories with
friends for the "oh do you remember when..." factor!

Craig


"leo" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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> jonkke@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> While ago I bought Nokia 6600 Smartphone which has a VGA resolution
>> camera. As I basically carry it where ever I go, I have been taking
>> quite a collection of photos. The problem however is that printing out
>> the 640x480 resolution photos is quite useless, the outcome is poor.
>>
>> One day I thought that it could be fairly easy to use any photo/image
>> editing software to combine four VGA photos to one image and print it
>> out. Outcome would be a index-print style picture with four small
>> photos in one photo printout. I did few tryouts and the result looked
>> amazingly good. One could even think about cutting out the small
>> photos...
>>
>> Creating these images, drawing white borders etc.. took me few minutes
>> for each image. I wanted some manner to automate this process and well,
>> the outcome is a web-page called http://www.smartpics.net . You can
>> enter the site, register and start to create your own images, which I
>> call Smartpics.
>>
>> As I published the site just few days ago, it would be nice to get a
>> bit of feedback from you guys. All the critics would be appreciated,
>>
>> Yours Faithfully,
>>
>> Jouni Kuisma
>>
>> P.S I am still running some testing especially for browser
>> compatibility, so please be patient if you find some errors....
>>
>
>
> you can capture a thief by taking a picture of the license plate, for
> instant. There are many uses, but I'd prefer to get one with at least 2MP
> and not too pricey.

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Hannah wrote:
> <jonkke@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1113058832.120466.210080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>While ago I bought Nokia 6600 Smartphone which has a VGA resolution
>>camera. As I basically carry it where ever I go, I have been taking
>>quite a collection of photos. The problem however is that printing out
>>the 640x480 resolution photos is quite useless, the outcome is poor.
>>
>
> Do people really expect anything worthwhile from camera phones? Visually,
> there may be enough clues to remember what the scene was, but then when
> printed???
> It amazes me when I'm out somewhere with my 16+ megapixel beast seeing
> people taking pix of the same scene with a telephone!? What can they really
> expect out of this exercise?
>
> H.
>
>
>
Maybe the older ones, but some of the new models have up to 5 mp...!


--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

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Actually some up to 7mp. Samsung SCH-V770 was/is the first 7 megapixel
camera phone, i dont know if there are any others yet? (
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0503/ [...] chv770.asp )

Though I could say, still today most of the shipped camera phones have
VGA camera. I saw some statistics about this that I cannot
unfortunately find now.

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"Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
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> >
> Maybe the older ones, but some of the new models have up to 5 mp...!
>

Hmmm, with a single element plastic lens about 3mm across.
Right on. I'm selling the beast, my 1DSMII, and all its lenses right now.
Why carry all that weight around when I can keep in touch with home via my
camera!
No, sorry Ron.
H.

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:31:01 +0100, "Hannah" <hannah@example.com>
wrote:

>
>"Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
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>> >
>> Maybe the older ones, but some of the new models have up to 5 mp...!
>>
>
>Hmmm, with a single element plastic lens about 3mm across.
>Right on. I'm selling the beast, my 1DSMII, and all its lenses right now.
>Why carry all that weight around when I can keep in touch with home via my
>camera!
>No, sorry Ron.
>H.

I don't think Ron was trying to sell them, just say they exist.

I don't have a cameraphone, but I can certainly see uses for them.

--
Bill Funk
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Big Bill wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:31:01 +0100, "Hannah" <hannah@example.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
>>news:zj%5e.1945$oW1.1275@fe06.lga...
>>
>>>Maybe the older ones, but some of the new models have up to 5 mp...!
>>>
>>
>>Hmmm, with a single element plastic lens about 3mm across.
>>Right on. I'm selling the beast, my 1DSMII, and all its lenses right now.
>>Why carry all that weight around when I can keep in touch with home via my
>>camera!
>>No, sorry Ron.
>>H.
>
>
> I don't think Ron was trying to sell them, just say they exist.
>
> I don't have a cameraphone, but I can certainly see uses for them.
>
I have a (VGA) camera phone. I have found no use for it as yet, at
least not for that feature. The phone works well, though.


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Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

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I have printed out sets of 4 photos taken with VGA phone cam to one
10x15cm paper and it looked great! See www.smartpics.net for more.. you
can use the website to create the printable images from your VGA
photos.

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:59:40 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:

>> I don't think Ron was trying to sell them, just say they exist.
>>
>> I don't have a cameraphone, but I can certainly see uses for them.
>>
>I have a (VGA) camera phone. I have found no use for it as yet, at
>least not for that feature. The phone works well, though.

I can see uses, though I have no intention of rushing out and buying
one; I don't see uses that, *for me* would make me do so.
But there are times when I think, "I'd like a quick pic of that." I
don't carry the DR/300D everywhere.

Another problem (to me), is the costs involved. For the few pics I'd
take, the costs are high.

--
Bill Funk
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