does anyone out there know how soon notebooks will start using chipsets that support 133mhz fsb for use with the p4? (should i be holding out for a new notebook for a few weeks or will it likely be several months?)

thanks a bunch guys!

Week, months, years it don't matter. What ever you buy for the forseeable future will be junk in a year because of the rule (Moore's law) that says computer power doubles every year or two. I assume you will have your notebook for longer then a few weeks or months. Famous notebook makers are starting to put desktop chips in their notebooks now. I went with a "off brand" cause just a month ago you couldn't buy a 2G notebook from somone like HP and now this month you can. In a year .09micron 4GHz machines will be out and in a year from that who knows?

IMO the two biggest factors keeping notebook speeds well short of desktops are drive speeds and video cards, memory does not make a spit in total relative speed compared to the other factors. Drive speed will always be less in a notebook because the drives need to be smaller and use less power hence a slower drive. I suppose someone could design a hoss vid card to slam in a notebook but I suspect the power and heat makes this impossible with current tech.

Sorry I'm not giving you the answer you were looking for but I don't think it really matters. Anytime you wait a month something better will be out or at least the price for existing products will be lower, either way you will always have a reason to wait. The question is how bad do you need a laptop and what could you be doing with one in the month you would be without one if you wait.

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i guess what i was getting at was the fact that it is indeed a desktop processor that i am getting in a laptop. Eurocom offers "desktop replacement" solutions that are fully upgradable in the future. so i was hoping i could wait until the 133mhz fsb came out so that the thing was upgradeable for as long as possible seeing as how 133mhz is the newer technology

I'm not 100% sure but I do not think Intel will be releasing a P4m processor with a 133MHz FSB. As far as I know Intel will be phasing the P4m cpu's out of production by this time next year. I can't remember the code name for the new cpu replacing the P4m.
P4m cpu's are going to be a flash in the pan interm cpu until the next generation mobile cpu's are produced by Intel. They will have a new core design and new chip set support. The new hardware will be the first generation that is totally designed from the ground up to be used only for notebook computing. No more bastardized desktop cpu's and chipsets crammed into a little notebook. Less heat! Maybe we'll be able to call them laptop computers again.


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The new mobile cpu under developement from Intel is currently called Banias. It is scheduled for release in Q1,03 with it's supporting chipsets called Odem and Montara.

Source info:

Intel Banias 1.4, 1.5, 1.6Ghz mobile CPU is expected to be released in Q1. Whilst being x86 compatible, Banias will be Intel's first CPU designed specifically for mobile usage with a much greater emphasis on power conservation. Banias will feature aggressive clock gating (switching unused processor blocks off when they are not in use) to help reduce power and will feature Intel's MicroOps Fusion technology to make more efficient use of the processors execution units. Banias may also feature 1Mb of L2 cache.

Intel Odem chipset for Banias is expected to be released at the Q1. Odem will use the ICH4M South Bridge, providing USB2 support, and will use a DDR memory interface.

Intel Montara GM & GML chipsets for Banias is expected to be released at the Q1. Montara has a specification similar to Odem, but will additionally incorporate a graphics core.

Link:
<A HREF="http://freespace.virgin.net/m.warner/RoadmapQ302.htm#Now" target="_new">http://freespace.virgin.net/m.warner/RoadmapQ302.htm#Now</A>


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ok no offence lakedude... but zpyrd seems to know his [-peep-] way more than you do. what is wrong with you. speed is everything. do you not have a manlyhood down there or what? go back home and play with your little 486. i plan to use my computer for something a little more advanced than solitaire so yes... the fsb matter does make a difference.

There are currently no mobile chipsets that support 133mhz fsb and intel doesn't have any in their roadmap for the future & intel recently relesed 2 new cpuz that suport the 100mhz fsb(2.5 & 2.6ghz) so I would guess that they plan on sticking with a 100mhz fsb for their moblie platforms for a while longer, but that is just my guess...

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