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Hi All,
 
I have finally scraped together enough money to get my first laptop,
and have narrowed the candidates down to:
 
1. Dell 8600
2. IBM R50p
3. HP Nw8000
 
The thing is that after having read everything I can find on these
machines, it seems that they all come in for a slanging in one forum
or another.  My greatest fear is spending my money on a machine that I
will regret buying, due to hardware failing, or build quality etc.
 
Can anyone who owns one of these machines comment?  I must admit that
I have always secretly wanted an IBM, but that just shows I am not
immune to corporate branding - IBMs being the engineers laptop and my
being an engineer and all...sad I know.

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If you want quality, go for IBM... or Apple! These are probably the only
brands where you can be reasonably sure of it.
 
Regards,
Lucar

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Panasonic -- and all the others.
 
 
dk
 
"Lucar" <lucar@gazeta.pl> wrote in message
news:cdmhas$88s$1@news.dialog.net.pl...
> If you want quality, go for IBM... or Apple!
> These are probably the only brands where you
> can be reasonably sure of it.
>

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rodney.elliott@canterbury.ac.nz (Rodney B. Elliott) wrote in message news:<94387a7d.0407201537.7b7a0056@posting.google.com>...
> Hi All,
>  
> I have finally scraped together enough money to get my first laptop,
> and have narrowed the candidates down to:
>  
> 1. Dell 8600
> 2. IBM R50p
> 3. HP Nw8000
>  
> The thing is that after having read everything I can find on these
> machines, it seems that they all come in for a slanging in one forum
> or another.  My greatest fear is spending my money on a machine that I
> will regret buying, due to hardware failing, or build quality etc.
>  
> Can anyone who owns one of these machines comment?  I must admit that
> I have always secretly wanted an IBM, but that just shows I am not
> immune to corporate branding - IBMs being the engineers laptop and my
> being an engineer and all...sad I know.
 
 
IBM ThinkPads are pretty good.
Issues I've seen:
 
On the 600x the keyboard and eraser mouse all invariably go.
 
On the T series from 20 through 23 the fixed disks go and battery life
is nowhere near what is advertised.  Still pretty good.
 
Dells are still pretty good but I've read that they have had some bad
Insperions.  The older Dell LAtitudes are like tanks.
 
The Apple iBooks are nice and have a minimal amount of hardware
problems and fuss.
 
The Apple powerbooks have issues, at least the year old titaniums did
with a hinge problem where ht hinges will crease the cover and the
paint flakes off.
 
Toshibas are nice for the most part, read a report about older P4's
not being able to do advertised speed because of heat issues.
 
Panasonic Toughbooks are nice if a little pricey.
 
Completely stay away from Compaq and HP, the support stinks as does
the product.
 
THX

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On 23 Jul 2004 08:45:37 -0700, thx1138@gibweb.net (THX1138) wrote:
 
:>rodney.elliott@canterbury.ac.nz (Rodney B. Elliott) wrote in message news:<94387a7d.0407201537.7b7a0056@posting.google.com>...
:>> Hi All,
:>>  
:>> I have finally scraped together enough money to get my first laptop,
:>> and have narrowed the candidates down to:
:>>  
:>> 1. Dell 8600
:>> 2. IBM R50p
:>> 3. HP Nw8000
:>>  
:>> The thing is that after having read everything I can find on these
:>> machines, it seems that they all come in for a slanging in one forum
:>> or another.  My greatest fear is spending my money on a machine that I
:>> will regret buying, due to hardware failing, or build quality etc.
:>>  
:>> Can anyone who owns one of these machines comment?  I must admit that
:>> I have always secretly wanted an IBM, but that just shows I am not
:>> immune to corporate branding - IBMs being the engineers laptop and my
:>> being an engineer and all...sad I know.
:>
:>
:>IBM ThinkPads are pretty good.
:>Issues I've seen:
:>
:>On the 600x the keyboard and eraser mouse all invariably go.
:>
:>On the T series from 20 through 23 the fixed disks go and battery life
:>is nowhere near what is advertised.  Still pretty good.
:>
:>Dells are still pretty good but I've read that they have had some bad
:>Insperions.  The older Dell LAtitudes are like tanks.
:>
:>The Apple iBooks are nice and have a minimal amount of hardware
:>problems and fuss.
:>
:>The Apple powerbooks have issues, at least the year old titaniums did
:>with a hinge problem where ht hinges will crease the cover and the
:>paint flakes off.
 
I believe that is another model made by the infamous Compal that builds the
Toshiba models that have that same identical problem.  I've also heard of
Dell, Compaq and HP models built by Compal also having that same hinge
related problem.
 
:>Toshibas are nice for the most part, read a report about older P4's
:>not being able to do advertised speed because of heat issues.
 
Actually the problem was with desktop P3 chips used in the 1800/1805 and
5000/5005 series.  I read somewhere that there is a class action lawsuit
pending over the 5000/5005 problem.  The only P4 models with heat problems
are again the ones using desktop chips instead of mobile chips.  BTW, this
is true for all vendors using the desktop chips, not just Toshiba.
 
:>Panasonic Toughbooks are nice if a little pricey.
 
I have to agree there.
 
:>Completely stay away from Compaq and HP, the support stinks as does
:>the product.
 
Again. I'm in agreement on that also.
 
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