Battlefiled 3 on GT 520

Hello guys, i had downloaded BF 3 on my desk and tried to play on my 810 MHz GT 520 card.

At certain points , the game run smooth but in 80% of time, it lags and has low FPS rate.

Saw this, i thought overclocking may help my game run smoother. So i gone to read some docs about, and i saw risk involved

with excessive heating of GPU... When i bought my card, has a CD with a software called EXPERTool, wich allow overclocking.

But i didn't jump to overclock cuz i have just fan cooling (running at 40% in idle state) and 250W PSU.

And I'm asking: Does overclocking process require more voltage , wich my PSU can't offer? Or it auto-adjusting if overclocked?

Reply to justdlnow

It does take more power, but you don't necessarily need to increase the voltage until you push the core speed too high.

You can probably get away with a little overclock. Maybe 850mhz, I don't know. Maybe higher.

Basically just bump the mhz up by 20, then run a test like FurMark. If it artifacts or crashes, it's unstable and needs to be reduced.

Reply to wolfram23

I never really recommend increasing volts on a graphic card, most cards can overclock and see solid improvement without more voltage. Plus with that card I'd imagine you can only run BF3 on low to medium settings?

Reply to Rage33

Yeah... everything on low... Even with FurMark , no anti-aliasing and lowest resolution i get the sadly 20 fps.. I overclocked shader clock like 80 Mhz + but no improvement. My temp gone up by 1 -2 degrees only, but i still not overclocked the processor.
By the way is not clear what is shader clock.. I know what is GPU or memory but shader clock 0.o

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Reply to justdlnow

Have you thought about upgrading your GPU? BF3 can be a beast and tax even the high end GPU's. The shader clock is something Nvidia uses, so I'm not exactly sure I've always used AMD/ATI cards

Reply to Rage33

There was times when I was mad in overclocking my old 8400GS.
One thing I got for sure - no matter how much you overclock it, it still will be low-end card, of course you can oc it for fun, like I did.
About shader clock, I bumped it from 1,4GHz to 2,1GHz and it didn't improve performance at all, so it's something in the fog, that I guess is not interesting at all.

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Reply to Vatafaks

Hello.
If you want to play BF3 smoothly, I am afraid that you have to upgrade both your gpu and your psu.
There might be a chance that 7750 that is coming tomorrow, to use only 55watt (rumors). It will be decent enough to run BF3 on medium settings without requiring a psu upgrade.
So if you want to play BF3 on better (medium to high) eyecandy, you have to wait a bit for the cheapest (lets hope on this...) solution.

Edit: On this article you will see that gt520 is not enough for smooth play even on low settings.
GT520 is 3 tiers up from 8500GT

article: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,3063.html

Message edited by Memnarchon on 02-14-2012 at 11:11:25 AM

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Reply to Memnarchon

No way the gt 520 would be able to handle BF3. Its probably a good idea to upgrade your gpu to a powerful one. Seeing that the HD 7750 requires only 55w tdp, you should just wait for it, see if it is true. I think the HD 7750 would be able to run BF3 medium details, on reasonable resolution. You didn't give your processor specification or monitor resolution. It could help a bit. And i have no idea about shader clocks cause i only used ati cards, so no comment on that.

Reply to rakin13

trying to game with a GT 520......
seriously dude.?

wolfram23 wrote :

It does take more power, but you don't necessarily need to increase the voltage until you push the core speed too high.

You can probably get away with a little overclock. Maybe 850mhz, I don't know. Maybe higher.

Basically just bump the mhz up by 20, then run a test like FurMark. If it artifacts or crashes, it's unstable and needs to be reduced.

look at the bigger pic..

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Reply to malmental

Downloaded it to your desktop? Are you running a pirated version of BF3? May make a difference.

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Reply to malmental

Vatafaks wrote :

There was times when I was mad in overclocking my old 8400GS.
One thing I got for sure - no matter how much you overclock it, it still will be low-end card, of course you can oc it for fun, like I did.
About shader clock, I bumped it from 1,4GHz to 2,1GHz and it didn't improve performance at all, so it's something in the fog, that I guess is not interesting at all.

GF1xx gpu types differ from old architectures on shader clocks. While G80 til GT200 gpus have seperated shader clock (you could adjust the core hz and the shader hz differently) the Fermi type GF1xx have their artchitecture sync the core hz with shader hz. Its 1:2, in other words the GT520 is 810:1620. So you need to o/c both at the same % in order to o/c. Some o/c software tools like afterburner, have this option linked.

Also justdlnow, when you o/c a gpu/cpu you are consuming more watts so 250watt psu might not be the ideal one .
As I stated before just wait 1-2 days and see what HD7750 can offer.

Message edited by Memnarchon on 02-14-2012 at 02:13:52 PM

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Reply to Memnarchon

I'm including also PC specs as someone claim would be helpful:

2.6 Ghz AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000+

Win 7 Ultimate 32-bit

Motherboard Foxconn

4 GB of RAM

Anyway, I'm thinking i leave BF3 for my card and playing other low-requirements games like Counter Strike..
I'll wait for that 7750 from ATI, sounds interesting..

EDIT: Oh and i forgot to mention: On canyourrunit on "Minimum" tab i pass everything except CPU witch look weird, and on "Recommended" fail everything except RAM, Pixel Shader , Vertex Shader and HDD..

Message edited by justdlnow on 02-14-2012 at 02:29:28 PM

Reply to justdlnow

you need a new unit......
HD 7750 on 250-watt power supply, really.?

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Reply to malmental

Who knows, the guys earlier spoke about it like wont need psu upgrade...

Reply to justdlnow

let me know how that goes for you... :sarcastic:

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Reply to malmental

Sure! You will be first to know

Reply to justdlnow

malmental wrote :

you need a new unit......
HD 7750 on 250-watt power supply, really.?

Well according to nVidia GT520 needs at least 300watt:
Minimum System Power Requirement (W) --- 300 W
source: http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GP [...] ifications
According to rumors 7750 will not consume much more power than GT520 and it will not require a 6pin connector too. Thats why I said if the rumors are true.
We just need to wait a couple of days (maybe tomorrow) to see if this is true.

Message edited by Memnarchon on 02-14-2012 at 03:47:04 PM

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Reply to Memnarchon

your card is not powerful enough to run BF3.lower game settings or upgrade.turn off AA/MSAA and motion blur.this may increase your framerate.

Reply to hellfire24

Love how people want all the eye candy with an utter piece of doodoo.

justdlnow wrote :

Yeah... everything on low... Even with FurMark , no anti-aliasing and lowest resolution i get the sadly 20 fps.. I overclocked shader clock like 80 Mhz + but no improvement. My temp gone up by 1 -2 degrees only, but i still not overclocked the processor.
By the way is not clear what is shader clock.. I know what is GPU or memory but shader clock 0.o

Using MSI Afterburner keep core and shader linked. Mem speed also makes a difference.

@malmental: What? I was just answering is question... he didn't ask if he needed an upgrade :kaola:

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Reply to wolfram23

wolfram23 wrote :

Using MSI Afterburner keep core and shader linked. Mem speed also makes a difference.

@malmental: What? I was just answering is question... he didn't ask if he needed an upgrade :kaola:

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Reply to malmental

OT..

i have an AFOX GT520-2GB

here are my Overclocks,

Hey, and i play GTA 4 SMOOTHLY ALL HIGH SETTINGS but the Shadows setting is OFF and everything is smooth on 1366 x 768 @ 60 Hz(My monitors MAX settings LOL) .. xDD

i use MSI Afterburner

Message edited by Gienn on 02-15-2012 at 11:24:14 AM

Reply to Gienn

vrumor wrote :

Downloaded it to your desktop? Are you running a pirated version of BF3? May make a difference.

you can actually buy games online now.

http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/pc-download

Kinda interesting, the first legally download games started around 2005 with a strange program called "Steam." oddly enough this looks very similar to what people are now referring to the "cloud" ... hmm ... steamcloud ...

something random to think about.

Reply to noob2222

They made 2gb GT 520s?? What the hell is the point of that?

Anyway, would be nice to hear back from the OP... get a new GPU or what?

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Reply to wolfram23

^for HTPC on multimonitor setup lolll!!!!

Reply to hellfire24

@Gienn

LOL you bumped 190 MHz+ on GPU and you are sure no artifacts or high temp?

And btw, what PSU do you have?

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Reply to justdlnow

wolfram23 wrote :

They made 2gb GT 520s?? What the hell is the point of that?

Anyway, would be nice to hear back from the OP... get a new GPU or what?

don't get me started on that...

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Reply to malmental

justdlnow wrote :

@Gienn

LOL you bumped 190 MHz+ on GPU and you are sure no artifacts or high temp?

And btw, what PSU do you have?

My max temp when playing GTA 4 is 70c-74c, No artifact, of course i did a research before OCing my GT520, i read a alot in the forums and people say this card sucks for gaming blah blah this and that and they've never use it, LOL,

My games includes Dirt 3 and Dragon Nest Online, and i play them on high settings, NOT VERY HIGH but HIGH SETTINGS.... i have a semi true rated 600W PSU..

Maybe my E7300(2.66) OCed to 3.1Ghz and 6GB DDR3 ram helps???

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Message edited by Gienn on 02-16-2012 at 02:02:50 PM

Reply to Gienn

I'm not saying you can't overclock that card, but why.?
for a few measly dollars more odds are you could have found a more suitable card but still not a gaming card.
and if you think your getting good FPS and running games smoothly even with reduced settings, than you are mis-informed of what gaming is..

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Reply to malmental

I actually had the GT520 for about a month, and i thought it rocked. Then, i upgraded my whole system Entirely, and man did i see how the GT 520 sucks. My APU graphics run better than the GT520, and im alot more pleased with graphics than with the Gt520. I know ever person in this forum is saying the same thing, but i would honest say just spend a few bucks and get a better card. I go to Passmark.com for all my benchmarking, and you will see how the GT520 ranks in cards. Just something to think about, it would make a huge difference, and hey, maybe you can play on higher settings and increase your love of the games you play.

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Reply to Samtastic06

malmental wrote :

for a few measly dollars more odds are you could have found a more suitable card what gaming card

Hm for now my budget wont stay at my pocket , so i can't just sit and see all that eye candy lagging on my PC ...

Reply to justdlnow

Gienn wrote :

My max temp when playing GTA 4 is 70c-74c, No artifact, of course i did a research before OCing my GT520, i read a alot in the forums and people say this card sucks for gaming blah blah this and that and they've never use it, LOL,

My games includes Dirt 3 and Dragon Nest Online, and i play them on high settings, NOT VERY HIGH but HIGH SETTINGS.... i have a semi true rated 600W PSU..

Maybe my E7300(2.66) OCed to 3.1Ghz and 6GB DDR3 ram helps???

So that means i could oc my card as yours? The only thing that changes is ram , and your psu...

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Reply to justdlnow

what motherboard, what case, is this a prebuilt like Dell or HP.?

Message edited by malmental on 02-16-2012 at 07:20:39 PM

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Reply to malmental

justdlnow wrote :

So that means i could oc my card as yours? The only thing that changes is ram , and your psu...

uhmm i don't know, test it yourself i know my overclock is extremely high for this GPU and there's one problem i encountered, at first while playing games for long the GPU underclock itself and stays there so my game LAGS like HELL and needed a restart to normalize things.. i got annoyed so i did a research read a lot of forums then i came to a solution, i don't wanna back down my overclocks, so i did was increase the PCI-E frequency to 110mhz, then boom i never encounter the UNDERCLOCKING problem.. (Oh don't ask me about the things about PCI-E relating to GPU OCing coz it so damn complicated you can research them here or on google read and read and read xDD)

like you my budget is tight so im staying on GT520 xDD i'll upgrade soon if i have the bucks xDDD

actually i came to these OC settings due to someone i saw on youtube or a forum, this is his MAX OC for his GT520 xDD

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Message edited by Gienn on 02-17-2012 at 01:13:56 AM

Reply to Gienn

try over clocking your cpu maybe the the cpu bottle neck

Reply to blackshadowzx

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