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I have a Zire 72s. I wanted to know how I could delete or hide certain
items from the Home screen, like, Quick Tour, Bluetooth, Calc, Dialer,
Expense. Now if I can delete, will I be able to intall them when I will
need at a later time.
Thanks in advance for your replies.

Finney Abraham

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On 5 Jan 2005 10:59:08 -0800, "finneyabraham"
<finneyandshiny@yahoo.com> removed the duct tape and proclaimed:

>I have a Zire 72s. I wanted to know how I could delete or hide certain
>items from the Home screen, like, Quick Tour, Bluetooth, Calc, Dialer,
>Expense. Now if I can delete, will I be able to intall them when I will
>need at a later time.
>Thanks in advance for your replies.
>
>Finney Abraham

Some are in ROM and cannot be deleted. You can create a new category
and move some of those programs to it, so you will not see them in the
main category.

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I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.

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On 5 Jan 2005 10:59:08 -0800, finneyabraham
<finneyandshiny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have a Zire 72s. I wanted to know how I could delete or hide certain
> items from the Home screen, like, Quick Tour, Bluetooth, Calc, Dialer,
> Expense. Now if I can delete, will I be able to intall them when I will
> need at a later time.
> Thanks in advance for your replies.
>
You can't delete apps that are in ROM. You can place them in different
categories.


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You can get JackFlash, and delete them from your ROM, and use the free ROM
space to add programs you like and will keep.

http://www.brayder.com/

Cheers,
PQ

>
>> I have a Zire 72s. I wanted to know how I could delete or hide certain
>> items from the Home screen, like, Quick Tour, Bluetooth, Calc, Dialer,
>> Expense. Now if I can delete, will I be able to intall them when I will
>> need at a later time.
>> Thanks in advance for your replies.
>>
>> Finney Abraham

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Warning:

If you tamper with the ROM, you can void your warranty, and worst, ruin your
PDA, not that it ever happened to me. I have been able to successfully
delete and restore ROM applications.

Read the http://www.brayder.com/ for more information.

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Forgive the top-post...
Deleting ROM ? Perhaps you do not understand what "ROM" means...
Read Only Memory, you can't "delete" anything written to ROM.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:35:06 -0700, Phyber Quest
<phyberquest@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Warning:
>
>If you tamper with the ROM, you can void your warranty, and worst, ruin your
>PDA, not that it ever happened to me. I have been able to successfully
>delete and restore ROM applications.
>
>Read the http://www.brayder.com/ for more information.
>

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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:32:32 -0700, Phyber Quest
<phyberquest@yahoo.com> wrote:

>You can get JackFlash, and delete them from your ROM, and use the free ROM
>space to add programs you like and will keep.
>
>http://www.brayder.com/
>
>Cheers,
>PQ

Deleting ROM ? Perhaps you do not understand what "ROM" means...
Read Only Memory, you can't "delete" anything written to ROM.

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:55:28 GMT, Squirrel removed the duct tape and
proclaimed:

>Forgive the top-post...
>Deleting ROM ? Perhaps you do not understand what "ROM" means...
>Read Only Memory, you can't "delete" anything written to ROM.

You can delete flash memory, which is sometimes referred to as "Flash
ROM". A misnomer, maybe.

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Squirrel wrote in news:41dc8cc1.2029413@news.argolink.net:

> Deleting ROM ? Perhaps you do not understand what "ROM" means...
> Read Only Memory, you can't "delete" anything written to ROM.
>
Perhaps you're the one who doesn't understand what "ROM" means. Using
JackFlash, you can certainly delete apps from flash ROM on a Palm, and
add others, at will. It's only read-only under normal conditions. I
have removed almost all the built-in apps, and all the extra language
support, from my T3 and replaced them with useful programs. The only
thing I kept was Docs To Go, and I replaced the installed version with an
update.

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Stan

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In response to Squirrel's post, Stan Gosnell wrote:
<Summary: You can delete ROM>

I think the basic problem is that the consumer electronics marketing
weenies have taken a term which has a precise engineering meaning,
namely "ROM", and distorted it beyond all recognition.

Originally, "ROM" meant "Read Only Memory", as Squirrel writes. If you
can write to it, it's not "ROM", by definition. If you can delete from
it, again, it's not "ROM", by definition. ("So how do you get the data
into ROM in the first place?", you ask. It's hard-coded, if you will,
into the chip during the manufacturing process. A place I used to work
made ROM memory for handheld calculators.)

Now, thanks to the above-mentioned consumer electronics marketing
weenies, the definition of "ROM" has seemingly morphed into something
like "Memory which doesn't go away when you turn the power off".

I wonder if they (whoever "they" are) would consider a hard drive to be
"ROM"? My hunch is, "Yes".

Bob Pownall

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In an attempt to throw the authorities off his trail, Phyber Quest <phyberquest@yahoo.com> transmitted:
> You can get JackFlash, and delete them from your ROM, and use the free ROM
> space to add programs you like and will keep.

No, I don't think you grasp what "ROM" means. "ROM" stands for "Read
Only Memory" (except when it stands for "Royal Ontario Museum" ), and
is a technology that does not permit memory writes.

You can't modify ROM chips, except in the unuseful senses that result
from doing something to physically damage them.

"Burning a ROM" essentially involves burning a set of fuses, and if
you recall how fuses work, they are not amenable to reuse.
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Stan Gosnell <me@work.com> wrote:

>Squirrel wrote in news:41dc8cc1.2029413@news.argolink.net:
>
>> Deleting ROM ? Perhaps you do not understand what "ROM" means...
>> Read Only Memory, you can't "delete" anything written to ROM.
>>
>Perhaps you're the one who doesn't understand what "ROM" means. Using
>JackFlash, you can certainly delete apps from flash ROM on a Palm,

Perhaps you're the one who doesn't understand Stan. The original poster was
asking about his Zire72 which *does not* have flash rom. So Squirrel was right
after all...

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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:31:11 -0500, Bruno <insert@address.here> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:55:28 GMT, Squirrel removed the duct tape and
>proclaimed:
>
>>Forgive the top-post...
>>Deleting ROM ? Perhaps you do not understand what "ROM" means...
>>Read Only Memory, you can't "delete" anything written to ROM.
>
>You can delete flash memory, which is sometimes referred to as "Flash
>ROM". A misnomer, maybe.

Yes. It's "trouble" dealing with customers and others who generalize
what they actually mean when working with "exact" technologies. The
misuse of ROM for EEPROM seems to be occurring much like the failure
to say "ask" as opposed to "axe" and the more common failure to use
the simple period.

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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:32:32 -0700, Phyber Quest
<phyberquest@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You can get JackFlash, and delete them from your ROM, and use the free ROM
> space to add programs you like and will keep.
>
> http://www.brayder.com/
>
But that only works with Palm models that have flash ROM.


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On 6 Jan 2005 03:01:21 GMT, Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org>
wrote:

<some stuff which was good, but I choose to enjoy the following bits>
>"A train stops at a train station, a bus stops at a bus station. On
>my desk I have a work station..."

And if you are using Windows, work stops at your workstation. :)




Disclaimer: The preceding post was not intended to inflame Windows
users (I am currently using a whopping-fast Pentium/MMX @200mHz
myself) it was purely intended as fun and should be read and enjoyed
without feeling compelled to respond in defense of the Windows
operating system. However, feel free to reply if you have never seen
the "blue screen of death". :)

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