Guys,


Hi! I just bought my 4870 and for some reason I am still getting kinda low FPS from my games such as Vegas 2 and Age of Conan. All I can come up with is that I am being bottlenecked by my CPU. I am open to learning how to OC my CPU but I think it is impossible with my mobo (intel dq965gf). I also have 3G DDR2. Please help would be great for I am not good with really technical computer stuff.

P.S if a CPU upgrade would do the trick would i be better off with e8400 or q6600

Thanks!

download the newest 4870 drivers from AMD http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html


the ones that come with your 4870 are outdated.

and no your CPU shouldn't bottleneck your 4870.

Macer1,



I already got the latest drivers for my 4870 even before I posted. That was my initial solution of the low fps.



Thanks!!

your cpu is good enough dont waste your money

Guys,


I would just like to post my system details from dxdiag.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/13/2008, 14:31:10
Machine name: MUNZ
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp.060411-1541)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: INTEL_
System Model: DQ965GF_
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3062MB RAM
Page File: 868MB used, 4078MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9440)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9440&SUBSYS_05021002&REV_00
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6833 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/4/2008 11:23:45, 309248 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 7/4/2008 14:33:33, 3230720 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D700-11CF-0369-0825A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9440
SubSys ID: 0x05021002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run



If you guys see anything wrong please post it here

any idea how I can improve my fps? I am really lost why my 4870 is giving me ave of 15-25 fps in age of conan.



PS my bro got e6750 2GB DDR2 and an 8800gt OC and is still getting a lot better FPS than me in Age of Conan and Vegas2.

Why don't you download gpu-z and get and idea of how much work your unit is doing, that way you'll know for sure if the cpu data isn't driving the gpu.

Yes it is bottle necking. CPU plays a big role in AoC. I know from experience. Its not optimized for quad so a faster dual core will be better.

If your mobo wont overclock check into the BSEL pin mod.

Vertigon,


Thanks for the great suggestion...will be trying it out...be back with the results.



Thanks!

Faithful,


Sorry but I dont know what the BSEL pin mod is. Help?


Is it a downloadable program?

Thanks!

check in bios and make sure something like your pci-e lanes isnt down to x1

Guys, here are the charts from Gpu-z, am I right in saying my Gpu is really under utilized? (taken while running vegas 2 )



Thanks!

Are you sure there are no other video driver conflicts?

Also why can't you OC that chip? Have you tried it in bios?

BSEL mod is an overclocking method. You connect pins on your CPU using conductive ink to increase the FSB. It's just like increasing the FSB using the BIOS. It is tricky and I don't recommend it, but it may be for you. The reason people do it is because their BIOS won't let them increase the FSB.

I definitely think your 1.86 E6300 is bottle necking your 4870. If you will upgrade, go for at least 2.4GHz, preferably 2.6Ghz or higher. Between the Q6600 and the E8400, I would pick the Q6600 because 2 more cores is a pretty decent upgrade. While the E8400 increases clock speed a lot, it doesn't add more cores. The Q6600 is kind of a balance between more cores and more clock speed.

no BIOS options for the intel dq965gf searched a lot of forums. QQ