Yeah, nothing like a nice flamestarter of a thread title...

But seriously, AMD is totally toast, so when is Intel going to drop the prices on the current Yorkfields to take them out of their misery? It was supposed to be the last week of July, and we're just a couple of days from August. Any news?

BTW, anyone who wants to change my mind and tell me that AMD is going to pull out of the slump and become a true competitor again, save your breath. I have just one word: Horsecrap! Do you have to wait to go to the funeral home before you're sure a guy's dead? Doesn't absence of life signs have anything to do with it? AMD is dead man walking. Deal with it.

I'm wearing my asbestos underwear so if you have to flame, I won't be singed.

Edit: $4.11 and dropping. $3s anyone? This is like watching a plane crash in slow motion...

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nkal83... and so... what? Wall Street has welcomed the news, hasn't it? I've never seen a hardier bunch of enthusiasts than for AMD. I have to admit, you have my respect for your completely unquestioned allegiance, but there comes a point where you have to look at reality. Intel now makes more money in a couple of weeks than AMD is worth altogether. Isn't it time to take off the blinders?

amd wont go down soon they have a good hold on the graphic card market. now they have that opteron.

i dont know why you sound so happy about this if amd goes down your intel processors will be insanely expensive

I'm not happy about AMD's death at all. It could open up a huge can of antitrust whoopa$$ for Intel and that could equal problems for all PC users. What I can't understand is how Wall St. keeps punishing AMD, bringing it down to below $2.5 bil market cap, and all AMD guys can say is "look... we actually sold a few thousand videocards!" Big freakin' deal. The bottom line is that AMD-ATI is now worth almost a third of just what it paid for ATI! This is an a$$kicking of historical proportions. The Wall St. group knows what business is and what you have to do to stay in business. And they are telling us loud and clear that AMD does not have it!

It won't ever go down - no matter what - because Intel can't afford to let it happen. Don't worry about that. In the "worst" scenario someone would buy it and Intel would have to lend the "new" company a x86 licence in order to avoid a major antitrust case.

It's amusing that people still consider the possibility of a "non-AMD world".

Yeah, let see this "cow" guy cheer when the price of the Q9450 suddenly goes to $2499...

Personally, I wouldn't mind, actually. My Intel shares would go up a lot without these price wars and without competition, and my Q6600 will last a while anyway.

What is the point of this thread, really?

Flamebait from a troll...

Just remember to buy low and sell high...and AMD is about as low as they're gonna get!

Yeah, so, i run intel and nvidia in my system but i can't figure out what makes this guy think amd is going under. So, there chips are not as fast....that's fine, they are cheaper, so they are used in bulk orders for corporate businesses where pricing is the main issue, not performance. On top of that, they just bought out ATI....of course their stock is going to be devalued.....my suggestion would be to wait about 4 months, then put alot of money in AMD stock.....

I agree that AMD is not going under because Intel will not allow it, but I can see why people think they are. Something to do with 7 straight q's of negative growth.

The ATI merger is not what has caused their stock devalue like it has. It affected it for a short time, but it is this low now because they cannot seem to execute (expect for the 4xxx series which is doing quite well).

AMD is not going anywhere, someone will bail them out.

Its good news. Any news that goes to Wallstreet is blown out of proportion either good or bad to change the stock.

The graphic market wont save AMDs CPU market. They need to get their buts in gear and start working hard to get better CPUs.

Thats what they said at $7 dollars.........

I see this thread as informative. Of course the OP could have not put the AMD dying stuff in but its not far from reality. AMD has lost a lot of money, they are worth way less than they were 2 years ago and their stok has dropped dramatically.

Of course I am waiting for AMD supporters to bust in and turn it into a flame war instead of talking about the important topic of what AMD is doing and what they can do better.

From the reviews I've read, AMD is already doing the right things. For example Anandtech has a review (or rather "preview" ) of new motherboards with SB750 which make the Phenom overclock very nicely.

However, if Nehalem is as good as reviews show it, AMD will still have a big problem competing on the CPU front.

I'm just curious how AMD dropped the ball so bad... K8 was better than the NetBurst P4s it was being put up against... all the way through the Pentium 900 series. Did AMD just think their architecture would hold up forever? The moment they had the lead in performance they should have been thinking "Crap, we just woke the sleeping giant... gotta work extra hard now." and it seems like all they did was just attempt to sell the same processors with a new name, a new socket and slightly faster clocks. So while Intel was transitioning from NetBurst to C2D, AMD said hey "let's switch to AM2, cut the cache, clock 'em a little faster and just hope to ride the wave." Ugh... after years of waiting all they give us is Phenom?

There was one basic problem with AMD in the past couple of years: Dr. Hector Ruiz. He took the goose that laid the golden eggs and shot it in the butt through incompetence and negligence that makes Ken Lay look like a model of executive accountability. Why the #$%& is it trolling to take off the rose (or green) colored glasses off and call it as it is. AMD @ $4.11. Dispute that. I remember reading way back when the AMD guys were saying that $25 was the absolute floor. Then $15. Then $10. Lately $5. The AMD blind followers were all wrong then and they're all wrong now. AMD has no future. Intel is not going to bail them out.

However, there is a very specific point to this thread: When is the Q9550 price drop and Q9400/Q9650 intro happening???

I think AMD actually does have a future. The new SB750 has potential, and now that Hector is gone, they have some chance. It won't b