IN I run 3dmark06,
1024,768,32bit, 4AA , 8AF,
now I set gpu 560 clock, money 1680, socre 1653

2 I set gpu 630 clock, money 2100 , socre 1903

3 I set gpu 700 clock, money 2100, socre 1899

I check system again. cpu is not cool. so socre is low. thanks everybody.

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I run 3dmark again, 1078.768.32bit, no AA &no AF, HDR/SM3.0 socre is 1103.

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I get MSI GF 8600 gts. I run 3dmark06,
1024,768,32bit, 4AA , 8AF,
gpu clock 700 MHz ( overclock),


3DMark Score 3253

3DMarks SM2.0 Score 1447

HDR/SM3.0 Score 1095

CPU Score 1504


tomshardware get 3dmark score-1831, my gf 8600 lower than Tomshardware close 700 point.

what happen ? My cpu is amdx2 3800, (2g . 393 slot. DDR 800) power sullies is 350W, vedio card have other power sullies (235w).

What version of 3DMark are you using? 3DMark2006?

Well, if that is the case... It seems..... Somewhat normal.... Slightly lower, but not too low.... As my Athlon64 X2 3800 @ 2320Mhz and GeForce 7600GS gets about 2950 points.

Are you comparing 7600gs with 8600gts?? dont be ridiculus. With that cpu you have to take 5000/5500 points.

My max score with overclock E4400 and 8600GT was 6500 points 3dmark06.

you have AA and AF on. Not sure tomshardware had it on.

just run it at the standard settings which are 1280x1024 no AA no AF, that's what Tom's does and everyone else. You should see an improvement with those settings. Just start the program and click run, don't mess with anything. With those settings I get about 13500.

i doubt only ur PSU. screw wattage, wats the amps dat ur +12v rails get. my suggestion is get a coolermaster extreme power plus 460w, or any decent reputed PSU(antec,coolermaster,OCZ etc etc). make sure u have 22a on the +12v rail. u'll have adequet power then.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=108088

Cooler Master Extreme Power is a Tier 5 PSU which is a don't buy. Buy a PSU from either tier 1 or 2 and you will have stable power for years to come. Something like this, The cheapest tier 2 PSU in the wattage range you should be looking for. Or this which is an even better choice, tier 1

It lists Cooler Master under tier 5 which is an all inclusive every other Cooler Master model which isn't listed above. What can I say, you got a good one. Going by that list just makes it less likely you will have a problem, there are still PC Power PSU's which are DOA or die after a month. I just don't think it's stressed enough how important a quality PSU is to the overall health and stability of a system. Too many people, trying to save a buck, just get the cheapest model and wonder why their having problems.

You have 4xaa and 8xaf on. 8600gts is a budget card that can't handle aa/af and takes a huge performance hit when they're turned on.

As for psu, don't get too crazy about the brands. Cheaper brands tends to have higher defective rate, but chances are still low. If it works, it works.

It's not about being defective it's about the stability of the rail(s) and the stability of the power being fed to your components. It's about the quality of the components that are used in it's manufacture and their longevity as well as the longevity and performance of your system.

Well, I just think THG staff have a few loose screws... but yes, your point is still valid.

That is also up to luck, to a degree. There are some supposedly bad brand psus with perfectly stable rail voltage even on heavy load. It's hardly consistant across the board for a brand or even a model.

If I am wrong I apologize for offending but I still stand by the importance of buying a quality unit rather than just any old PSU and saying "if it works it works"

I said tier 1 or 2. Tier 3 is ok but you could buy a tier 2 PSU for around the same money so why not go for the superior unit. Also saying Cooler Master or OCZ or FSP is a good brand is misleading. They all might make quality units but they also make some less desirable models. OCZ GameXstream is good OCZ PowerXstream isn't so good, Thermaltake Toughpower is good Thermaltake Purepower isn't as good.

I also conceded that I could be mistaken if you read my other post.