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I've noticed on this forum and others multiple daily posts requesting advice on building gaming computers. Nearly the same questions are posted repeatedly, which is understandable. Most people are building computers in order to play the latest games at medium to high settings with good frame rates, and want to spend between $700 and up. This post is intended to summarize advice that I and others have repeatedly given recently, and imho seems to represent the consensus opinion of most knowledgeable posters. It's for all potential system builders who fit into the 700 and up price range category above, as well as for myself so I can just reference this info in other posts rather than frequently retyping it. I'm sure there will be dissenting opinions, and please feel free to post them in Any combo of any of the items on the list below should be compatible, and produce a system capable of playing any current game on medium high (Crysis) to very high (Age of Conan) to max settings (virtually every other game). If posters think this is useful, it could be redone and updated every few weeks as prices change and new products come out. A couple notes first: Dual or Quad Core CPU?: No simple answer. The dual cores are cheaper. If your primary goal is gaming, dual cores outperform the quads because they'll usually overclock higher and because current games don't take advantage of the extra cores. If you multi-task or do lots of video/photo editing, then the quad will likely be better. If you don't want to update your computer for several years and want to be 'future-proof', then go quad core. RAID 0: Though many swear by setting up two hard drives in RAID 0 to increase performance, many articles suggest the real world performance SLI: Unless you intend to play games on a very large monitor (24 inches and up) at very high settings and resolutions (1920X1200 and up), SLI does not offer enough improvement in gaming performance to justify the cost in the opinion of most. It's usually not a great upgrade pathway either. The best single-card solution you can afford will usually give you the most bang for your buck (especially with the GTX260 and 280 GPU's being released later this month). Nvidia Chipsets: If you're not intending to use 2 GPU's in SLI (for New GPU Release: The Nvidia and ATI new families of GPU's are being released within the next few weeks. If you want the fastest GPU you can get that won't need to be upgraded for quite a while, delay your build until they come out. Otherwise, consider getting a EVGA or BFG Nehalem: This is the name of the next Intel CPU family coming out the end of '08, which will reportedly outperform today's best Core 2 family chips by 20-50%. Unfortunately, Nehalem is a physically larger chip and will require a new socket - thus, you'll need a new motherboard in order to upgrade. Keep this in mind before you drop 2-300 bucks on a new motherboard today. "Future-Proofing": Many people want to build a 'future-proof' system that will allow them to play the newest games at high to max settings for 3-4 years. Unfortunately, this is probably impossible since that length of time is an eternity in computing terms. IMHO, a better strategy is to build a mid-to-high end system every 1-2 years. Often, you'll be able to recycle the case and PSU, sometimes even the HD or motherboard. For example, today for $1000-1400 you can build a system that'll play all games on high to max settings for the next 1-2 years, and you'll get more bang for your buck than blowing 3k on a bleeding edge system that'll be underperforming within 2 years. This way you'll always have a high-performing, cost-effective system. (And building computers is fun!) Overclocking: Even if you've never done it before, it's so easy and the performance gain so large with the new 45nm Core 2 Duo chips that it'd be a shame not to at least consider doing it. There are fairly simple primers and guides you can read in the overclocking section of this board and others that'll walk you thru it. OK, here goes. I didn't list prices because they change daily and differ among various sites. The idea here is to mix and match components below from different categories depending on your personal preference and budget. I left AMD out of this game so that every part on the list is compatible with every other part (also - I'm not an Intel fanboy, but the truth is AMD is lagging far behind Intel in overall performance at this point in time). This means you can choose any kind of combo you want (example: mid-range CPU, low-end RAM, high-end GPU, low-end Motherboard) and still be ok. You should be capable of selecting components below and ending up with a system ranging in price from around $750 and up. Any system made up of components from the categories below should perform at a relatively high level and run most games and at mid-to-high settings, as well as perform solidly at video/photo editing, web, email, cd burning, etc etc. CPU: Value/Low-End: For those on a very, very tight budget only Mid-Range (best price/performance ratio): High-End (overkill for most, but good choices if you're not overclocking and Motherboard: All of the below will support the latest CPU's and GPU's Low End: (this is still a good performer, overclocks pretty well, fewer bells Mid-Range: (best price/performance ratio, overclock very well, have everything High-End: (overkill for most, overclock very well, lots of bells and Get at least 2 X 1 gig, preferably 2 X 2 gigs. Go with DDR2, either 800 (fine Two Gigs (2 X 1gig sticks) of RAM: Four Gigs (2 X 2gig sticks) of RAM, midrange (best price/performance Four Gigs, high-end, DDR2 1066 for aggressive overclocking (there's no point Power Supply: One current bargain is this Antec case Low-end/budget (two pretty good quality PSU's for the price): Mid-Range, two excellent choices: High-End (overkill on the PSU never hurt anything): GPU: Lower End - Can still play games on mid to high settings however: Mid-Range - Best Values Currently, can play all games on high to max settings: High-End: Case: Lower-end: Mid-Range: High-End: Hard Drive: High-End: (much more expensive per gig, but the fastest HD you can buy) DVD Drive: CPU Cooler: Operating System: Monitor: Happy building! More importantly, happy gaming! Message edited by modode on 06-11-2008 at 05:23:54 AM |
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let me make this clear to you.how high would the CPU OC is not depend on their starting speed.it all depend on quality of the component you use in your setup.but consider the quality is the same,the CPU with higher speed at stock which means they are running on a higher multiplier.so look at it this way:
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Pretty nice list!
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Hey, this topic is a great idea! I'd just like to add my thoughts on the lower-end. I hope you don't mind.
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Great post modode! I did a similar post, if you want any information or want to do something with multiple builds (low,mid,high) PM me and we can work on a guide to keep updated. --------------- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ate-modode <-- Computer Builds Success comes from knowing that you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming."-John Wooden |
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I tried to make a post as well in the other Homebuilt System forum, but it went with 0 replies.
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Shadow and Sanji - feel free to copy/paste the OP I wrote above and edit in different builds if you like. If the three of us could then keep it updated and perhaps get it stickied, I think it'd make a pretty good reference. |
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very nice job, hope it gets stickied guys |
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UPDATED June 15!!
Message edited by shadowduck on 06-16-2008 at 04:52:08 AM --------------- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ate-modode <-- Computer Builds Success comes from knowing that you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming."-John Wooden |
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lol dont we all love our power companies
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