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Which OS would be for my 80 year-old tech savvy stepdad?


 
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I hope I'm now posting this in an appropriate section of the forums, if not, please advise.

I'm building a PC for my 80 year-old stepdad for Father's Day:

He's the computer patriarch and helps my mom, sister, and some of his friends with their IT tasks (and offloads me from having to do that, yea). He's pretty durned sharp (so I'm not worrying about him being able to understand and utilize whatever he's given). He uses Adobe PhotoShop, PrintShop Deluxe (A LOT), MS Office, and he may play some old games (i.e., Railroad simulations, chess, etc.) and surf's the net a lot. He needs a new rig but can't afford it right now...so, that's where I come in.

I've built the rig for him (using the parts below) but can't decide upon which OS to get for him.

XP Pro 32 would do the trick, be compatible, albeit he'd not have all the installed RAM available to his programs and he might wonder how come I didn't get him MS' shiny new Vista.

Vista32 SP1 would be nice, shiny, and feel new (and he'd like that) but its a wee bit slower the XP, albeit he'd not have all the installed RAM available to his programs.

Vista 64 would be fast (and with 8GB I could even disable the page file), shiny, and new but it may be less compatible with some of the programs he may want to install (that I'm currently unaware of) so I'd have to give him say XP Pro32 in a VMWare virtual machine (he, like me, may even enjoy doing that...don't know).

Everytime I think I've decided on what to OS to purchase I get stuck. What do you think would be best for this 80 year-old computer enthusiast and why, based on the below hardware and above stated usage?


  • Asus Striker Extreme
  • Intel E6850 (OC'd to 3.5Ghz)
  • 4GB Corsair PC26400 C5 DHX (could install up to 8GB of RAM (already have it))
  • Zalman 9700NT
  • nVidia 6800 (generic) w/Zalman VGA fan
  • Samsung DVD Burner
  • 2 x 500GB Seagate 7200.10 (Should I Mirror or Span?)
  • ThermalTake M9 Chassis
  • CoolMax 700W Modular PSU
  • A TV Tuner (that I haven't purchased yet...could use advice on a <$100 part that will give him nice recording ability).


Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated, as always.


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Due to the old games, XP.

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if its a gift give him Ubuntu its FREE!!!since you are not going to benefit from it.and plus it will be virus proof.so never have to reinstall.and he can spend time on twinkering the UI.so he can occupy himself.

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Sounds like XP professional 64 bit would do the trick. He can use those old programs and the OS will address all of the ram. I would just put the hard drives in raid 0. From the looks of it your step dad doesn't have anything terribly important to back up, and a fast booting computer is always nice.

As for the TV tuner, I got the one listed in my sig for $120 from newegg. I know its a little more than $100 but I can personally vouch for a good experience with it.


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I would agree that XP64 Pro would be good, but that's not on the list. As it is, the stepdad is on the ball, tech savvy, and except for the video card, the hardware is modern, and I voted for Vista 64. Further, now that Vista 64 is coming with SP1 (which I installed on my computer) Vista is better yet. The only potential problem for Vista that I see is the old video card. Where'd you dig up a generic Nvidia 6800? Those things are ancient. The video card is the big thorn in side for any use whatsoever. So, unless a better video card can be found, then its back to XP64 Pro as being best. At least then he can use up to 8 gig of ram with ease.

As for the games issue, the only old game that I've found so far that was a problem with Vista was so old that it wouldn't recognize a multi-core processor.


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those old program might not compatible withg 64bit because its only design for 32bit.also make sure you have driver for 64bit and RAID.

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When you mention the railroad sims and older games, the compatibility issue comes up so 64 bit may not be a great idea. It's not just the main program but also add ins (free and paid) that may create problems. I'm not sure that it really makes a difference with Vista or XP as long as you have plenty of memory.

I'd have to politely disagree with several of the suggestions so far. The fact that he is using photoshop sounds like pictures or somthing else is important to him so yes - backup is important. The RAID 0 issue has several points: for faster booting, it only means a few seconds, for backup it means nothing, but for the larger photoshop files it may provide some benefit. Frankly, I see it as a complication with minimal benefit.

iluvgillgill - LOL, my thoughts exactly. I love it when you hear "I rebuilt my kernel 3 times yesterday and it was great!".

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I would agree that XP64 Pro would be good, but that's not on the list. As it is, the stepdad is on the ball, tech savvy, and except for the video card, the hardware is modern, and I voted for Vista 64. Further, now that Vista 64 is coming with SP1 (which I installed on my computer) Vista is better yet. The only potential problem for Vista that I see is the old video card. Where'd you dig up a generic Nvidia 6800? Those things are ancient. The video card is the big thorn in side for any use whatsoever. So, unless a better video card can be found, then its back to XP64 Pro as being best. At least then he can use up to 8 gig of ram with ease.

 

As for the games issue, the only old game that I've found so far that was a problem with Vista was so old that it wouldn't recognize a multi-core processor.

 

Thanks, that's good to know. I didn't realize that 6800 was quite so useless (it came my wife's Dell XPS600 that we got in December of '05). I can take the 8600GT out of my daughter's rig and she'd never know it or miss it, so I think I'll do that.


Message edited by halcyon on 05-20-2008 at 05:29:01 PM

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if he already has a comp, then he already has an os he likes..
if new comp, then anew and exciting os might be fun. get him
Xubuntu http://www.xubuntu.org/ . . . . or
PCLinux. www.pclinuxos.com/

edit.. also he can triple boot ,using his old os , his new os [if it must be windoze ,get xp pro,it runs smoother then plan xp ] and Linux


Message edited by g13man on 05-20-2008 at 05:40:23 PM
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That may be true, but I think this rig may be overkill for what he'd do with Ubunto. I have Ubunto 8.04 and I think it'd run on the old box he has now, so once we get his new rig setup and running the way he likes I'd be glad to setup Ubunto on his old rig and let him play with. OR...better yet, I can install Ubunto for him in a VMWare virtual machine he loses nothing and has the best of both worlds...VMWare is that fast and has all the harware support he'd need so that may be a good usable option.


Message edited by halcyon on 05-20-2008 at 05:42:08 PM

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My brother and his family have a lot of older games they enjoyed, until they got a system with Vista on it.
There's a compatibility list at http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index. [...] ility_List that may be helpful. Note that some entries in problem sections were by drones. YMMV.


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Far as the dual hard drives, why not make one the OS drive and the other just data?

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How's XP64's driver support? I know there's good Vista64 support for the hardware in question so I'll check to verify that XP64's driver support would be just as good. One of the reasons I wanted to go with a flavor of Vista is because I believe he'd like the look (I know that's unimportant to many)...but I could achieve that with WindowBlinds on XP32.


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I should point out that the new Vista 64 that includes SP1 solved a few problems that the original Vista 64 (or 32 for that matter) had. Its not perfect by any means, and there will always be some old programs which won't work because the companies won't write new drivers. That should be thought of a growing pains. Through the years I've been through this a number of times and its always aggravating, but that's life.

runswindows95 has what I think is a very good idea, that is, using one hard drive for the OS and main programs and the other for data. I do that myself so that if I have to reinstall the OS, the data remains safe.


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overkill [in my opinion] is vista.it breaks with other windows like past editions have also done.. and what is wrong with linux having new hardware? Afraid to see something fast,haha.

But seriously, thats why i mentioned multiple booting, he can save his old programs and OS,and they will run faster and/or smoother with the new hardware. [so will linux]

..My bet is grandpa will give his older system away for space considerations and to help some one who does not already have a comp[or one as good as he is giving ]. He just seems he would be nice like that .

http://www.pclosmag.com/html/global.html some reading for fun

I can honestly say that I have not tried virtual programs on my hardware because of its age.. however you do have the new hardware that supports virtualization , so that sounds good as well as multi booting