Looks like we will all be looking good in red this time round http://www.vr-zone.com/content/1

damn...lets hope its true

Meh, synthetic cr@p. The 2900XT won 3dmark races to, look how that turned out. I'll wait for NDAs to lift so I can see real scores.

Thats true, I hate bungholios too. But this is a new aproach with ATI, so those 2900 numbers and using Vantage make this a whole new ballgame. It could have flipflopped like the 1xxx series vs the 7xxx series too. Anyways, more is better ATP.

damn... sweet...

lol

I think the main reason that ATI seems to usually come out on top in the 3DMark scores and yet fall behind against tests in gaming is that most game makers seem to favor Nvidia (or used to at least).

Might be just me, but I've seen a lot of 'The way it's meant to be played.' stickers on PC game boxes and the same thing in the pre-start-menu ads (or whatever you call those) when you boot up a game. And these appear more (in my experience) than similar stickers/ads for running best on ATI cards.

So I guess to me it seems like 3DMark and some choice games are GPU independent when it comes to the GPU maker, but a lot of developers are (or used to) favor the green team and so they usually came out on top.

still... thats over 2. 5 times as good as 8800 gt in extreme mode... for the gtx 280... still I think gtx 280 will come out on top just because ati usually does better than nvidia in 3dmark...

The way I see it is this. 3DMark 06 showed the cards capabilities. Those capabilities dont necesarily translate into great game performance if the card isnt optimized, or balanced. What we might see is that ATI has finally brought that balance, and ability out in these new cards. We will see if thats true soon

I think its admittedly good that the 4870x2 does beat the gtx 280 given that its a crossfire onboard graphics adapter.

However, it does not beat the gtx280 by over 50% according to their numbers; which does imply that gtx 280 SLI is still going to be higher performance my a large margin.

However, at the 500$ price point; that is incredibly good performance and it has to be applauded, bravo.

I cant wait anymore I am going INSANE. I have been waiting for 2 months to buy my computer, but I keep telling my self just wait until these cards come out. This upcoming weeks are gonna be killer..really wish they would just come out already.

I really truly hope that the gt200 series is a markable performance increase over current gen; because if it is come fall i'm going to be running SLI gt200 myself!

I think the new tech is going to be great by both sides, costs regardless it looks good.

True enough, but you could always put two 4870X2's in crossfire and that would murder two GTX280's in SLI for about the same price and reportedly consume less power as well.

Maybe, maybe not

The current Quad Crossfire for the 3000 series is apparently better than Nvidia's Tri SLI, however that doesn't necessarily mean the next gen will be the same.

And myself well, i'd be looking at a motherboard change if I did that; however it might work out to the exact same cost for that matter given the higher cost of the gt200 series, you never know until its out I suppose.

I think the biggest caveat against the 4870x2 is likely to be quad crossfire support/performance/scaling, its something that really hasn't been discussed that much at all, I get a feeling its not really a big priority for them in their new marketing plans.

nVidias had plenty of time to improve current situations too. If this turns out that the 4870x2 is as fast to the 280sli as the 3870x2 is to the 9800gtx sli, then nVidia has been sitting on their thumbs. And if these specs and pricing holds up, then this will be a huge catchup in price performance for ATI

Agreed, looks like there will be great competition this year and plenty of great options for pretty much every user base.

So far, ATI shows a 15% increase on their gap with nVidia, and then you have the pricing figures to boot. Real good for us this year

Dude can it play Crysis in 1900x1200? Or should I continue to dream on?

Like I said, 3Dmark counts for nothing for me lol.

I wanna see REAL gaming scores

Not knocking on your post, I"m happy I saw that

REAL GAMING SCORES!!!

The people that have thes