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pretty much expected really.i was actually surprise AMD didnt delay the HD4XXX.AMD CPU department and marketing department sort yourself out!

While it is pure speculation on whether or not Deneb is having problems sampling, AMD cannot afford another product delay, that is for certain.

I will give them (AMD) the benefit of doubt, but not showing Deneb at one of the biggest showcases for computer products doesn't help, either.

is it AMD cannot afford another product delay or is it AMD cannot afford to make another product?share prices isnt great.one of my mate lost all his money on the supposedly profitting AMD.but who knows....

got news for you, its sad news for everyone.

a total Intel monopoly does nobody any good.

If your friend lost all his money gambling (which it is, when one plays in the stock market), then that's his fault. No one else. Just because a company's stock sky rockets, doesn't mean it won't drop as fast, either.

AMD cannot afford another Barcelona type delay. Not saying that Deneb has a bug or anything, but any product delay is not good for them. The launch of Barcelona, then delay, hurt AMD pretty badly. If Deneb is delayed or not sampling as this article (and others I have seen) claims, then this could be a very bad thing for AMD, no doubt.

@groo - Yes, any monopoly is not good, but this isn't an Intel monopoly thing...it's an AMD execution thing.

I was commenting on the forseable concequences of AMD's continual blunders.

Intel has a monopoly on the highend. it looks like AMD is trying to loose the middle ground too.

we already have a VIA, we don't need another.

Uh.....I don't think he was blaming anyone. Just providing an example of AMD's abysmal state.

I see. I apologize for my haste to prevent another Intel monopoly thing.

Yes, AMD's missteps are painful to watch at times. Look at how many executives that have left prior to and since Barcelona's launch. It hasn't been pretty for AMD, and a lot of people are waiting for them to turn the ship around.

the linked articles read more like a blog post than actual news.

AMD is/was supposed to come out with the "Griffin" mobile processor at Compputex as well, but there is still no news about that, yet. There also hasn't been much Computex news about the 4850 and 4870, yet.

So...with that said, any naysaying should be taken with a grain of salt...after all, they've got until 6/7 when Computex ends...

i think somewhere in the future Nvidia will come into play in CPU market.hopefully!

yeah got the same view as you chunkymonster.no 4780 or 4850.i swear they got sample shipping already somewhere on earth.but im thinking is the driver for both AMD and Nvidia is so bad thats why those demo machine dont have 3d mark o6 or vantage install.because it will just cause another stir.

groo im not complaining about the AMD fall just saying the situation to reflect the overall AMD's position.

If he lost all his money he should not be trying to buy and sale stocks to start with.
For those people who bought AMD a few weeks back the stock is about 40% higher right now and the NYSE still about 3 hours untill it closes.

AMD stocks have made me far more income than Intc (Intel) each year.

It will be tough for NVIDIA to move into the x86 market due to licensing restrictions.

While x86 is not the best technical CPU design at the moment, it wins due to software compatibility.
The reason why the Itanium failed, even though it did run Windows.

did you know start making the Tegra CPU.so Nvidia sure will come into the CPU market soon.

Hey, if AMD goes down how soon can we expect nVidia to come to the CPU area?

AMD is not going down any soon

Personally I didn't find this "sad news" as the OP suggests.

They are scheduled to release 45nm the second half of the year. That means July through December for those of you that are chronologically challenged. Last time I looked it was June. June is in the first half of the year and not the second half. AMD has more than 6 months to release something in 2H08 before being "late" on their current release schedule.

It is good to see that they are taking their time.

No way, what with recent going ons with Nvidia and Intel will never lisence X86 technology needed to run all pcs of yesterday, today and tomorrow..


Will Nvidia follow 3dfx and get too cocky for its own good.

the deneb is due the 3rd quarter of 2008.and supposedly be display on computex which is happen on the 3rd quarter of the year(aka 2nd half of the year)

if the chip is not ready for mass production they still should have a WORKING sample to just display on IT show like this.even Nehalem is not fully ready for every market but they still manage to showcase a working system.

and you mention 2nd half of the year,it is true the mass production is happenning at the 4th quarter of 2008 as suggested in the link i gave.but from earlier news AMD said that they should have the Deneb working demostrated at computex which again they failed so far.but there are still time for the computex.we will wait and see.