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Hey, if you guys could review this build and tell me what you think, that would be awesome. All of my parts will be coming from ncix.com, as I am from Canada, making it my best option.

This computer will be used for gaming (Crysis, CoD4, The Orange Box, etc.) as well as for a few engineering programs (Solidworks, Visual Studio, etc.) that I use in school. I will be playing/using this computer on a 22" monitor (1680x1050 resolution).

CPU-Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
The quad will be nice for some of the programs I will be running for school. It will be nice for the multi-tasking ability and it still runs games good. I will overclock it to the acceptable level with air cooling.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ture=Intel

Heatsink-OCZ Vanquisher or Scythe Katana 2
I really have no idea which of these to choose.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] Technology
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http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ure=Scythe

Motherboard-Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Heard great things about this board. Don't really plan on SLI, so it seems to be the best choice.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] e=Gigabyte

HDD-Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500 GB
not much to say about this...
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] re=Seagate

GPU-XFX Geforce 8800GTS (G92)
It was down between this and the EVGA version. This comes with a lifetime warranty (didn't see if eVGA did) as well as a free copy of CoD4.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] acture=XFX

Memory-OCZ Platinum XTC REV.2 PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-15
Good price. Solid timings. Will add another 2 GB of this in a couple months.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] Technology

Case-Antec 900
Not much to say here again...
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ture=ANTEC

PSU-OCZ GameXStream 700 watts or Corsair HX520 Modular
Couldn't decide here. Between more wattage, or the modular ability. Opinions?
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] re=CORSAIR
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http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] Technology

DVD Writer-LG GSA-H55N
solid reviews. It's just a dvd writer...
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] lectronics

Operating System-Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit
I plan to get to 4 GB, so I want the 64-Bit version.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] =Microsoft


So what do you guys think of my choices. My main questions are around the power supply and the heatsink, but other general opinions are welcome and appreciated.


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I'd get the GameXStream, just because it's a few bucks less and gives more room for upgredes.

Can you get the entire 4 GB from the start? If you're going to overclock and do stability tests and so on you might as well do it all just once. Plus, Vista and Visual Studio are big memory hogs, they'd benefit.
Try this:
OCZ Reaper OCZ2RPR800C44GK 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-15 , $95 after rebate
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] Technology

Get this burner:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] re=Samsung
The LG's are great, except they have a speed lock in the firmware that makes them lousy at ripping DVDs.


You could get a better cooler. From NCIX's list, I'd pick one of these:

Ninja, $45, includes fan
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ure=Scythe
Ultima-90 + SFF21F, total $47+$15 (or Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme + SFF21F, for $18 more)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ERMALRIGHT
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ERMALRIGHT
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ure=Scythe

All 3 are among the quietest air coolers. The Extreme is the best air cooler out there.

Edit: consider the Q9300, for $50 more than the Q6600. Without any overclocking at all, you gain about 10% from faster default clocks and improved architecture. It also overclocks better thanks to the new 45nm technology.

No objections to the MB, video card, HDD, case and OS, all good choices.

The motherboard comes with 2 SATA cables, so you're all set with your one hard drive and one burner. Youc an have up to 4 SATA devices in there (i.e. two more hard drives, for example). If you need more or you'd like to try RAID I suggest the GA-EP35-DS3R.



Message edited by aevm on 04-03-2008 at 07:42:20 PM
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I will never need more than 4 SATA connectors I don't think. 2 Harddrives + 2 optical drives is probably all I will have, since I have a laptop as well and a 500 GB external harddrive.

I will also probably end up spending the money on 4 GB of ram right away. I just like to pretend to myself that I won't go over budget. lol.

And if the Ninja is worth the extra $20 as a heatsink, I will spend the money on it.

I don't think I will get the q9300 though. The retail one is $335, meaning it is $65 more then the q6600, not worth it in my opinion.

I actually won't be building this for a month or so though, until school is over. I just wanted to lay it out now, so I have an idea on what to go on, then if new things come out, or price drops occur, I can change it accordingly. For example, if the q9300 drops to $275 or something, then I would probably switch it in.

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Good, then the DS3L is a great choice.

The Katana is actually pretty good, for only $30. It really depends on how high you're trying to overclock. Here's a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article271-page1.html

and a quote from it:

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The Scythe Katana won't be competing with the Ninja for the performance crown, but it's much more reasonable in size and price.



If you're only looking for a mild overclock, say 3 GHz, then the Katana (or the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro) would be just fine. If you'd like to try for 3.6 or 3.7 you will need an expensive cooler.

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I have no problem spending the extra $20 if it means I can get an extra .4 GHz out of the OC.

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Not much to say on that, but I'd go for the modular PSU, you won't need any more power than that for your set up, and modular really does make it nice.

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Drop the OCZ Vanquisher/Scythe Katana 2. The OCZ Vanquisher is probably the worst heatsink design of all time (notably the push pins, I almost broke one of the ones pins). Scyth is not the best performance(cooling wise) for the $. If you want a quality cooler take a look at Xigmatek HDT-S1283. (Ranked #1 on Frostytech) see:http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm You can usually fin it at about $35-45.

My recommendations:
P35-DS3L (or DS3R if you need RAID extra SATA ports)
Q6600/Q9300
Crucial Ballastix DDR2 800
Corsair 520HX (very high quality PSU)
Every thing else (ie case,etc) the same.


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Shadow703793 wrote :

If you want a quality cooler take a look at Xigmatek HDT-S1283.



Agreed, but NCIX doesn't sell it. If the OP can find it in Canada then yeah, he should get it.

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^ Lol sorry didn't realize he was buying from Canada. ;)


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Yeah, so many goodies at newegg that we can't get here in Canada. :(

Anyhow, I found a place that sells that cooler here:
http://www.sigelectronics.com/PC-M [...] CPU-Cooler

I have no clue if this is a reliable shop. If the OP lives in Toronto he can just visit the retail locations.

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I'd probably consider the place. I live close enough that if they **** me over, it isn't a big deal to get there.

And yes, not being able to buy from Newegg is a huge pain.

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id suggest the 9800gtx, a couple bucks more for ultra performance

 

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escapee88 wrote :

id suggest the 9800gtx, a couple bucks more for ultra performance

http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] a%20Inc%2E



I didn't notice that because of the sale.

Basically, for things like that, I will need to look for those right when I am ready to buy. I am able to interchange video card and cpu no problem, since quality and performance are pretty cut and dry. It was more the other parts that I need advice on.

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Get the 8800GTS over the 9800GTX, it performs better at equal clocks.

http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/03 [...] review/12/

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I didn't know that it was that close. With the price difference, the 8800GTS is probably my sweet spot too.