Didn't see this posted anywhere.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/0 [...] ti_nvidia/

Your Thoughts?

My peronal opinion is that after years of producing inferior igps for graphics, which in my opinion has helped with the decline in pc gaming, Intel is finally jumping into the fray. I think that with them in this market that it could bode well or disastrously for the current GPU makers. Im not talking about better products coming from Intel, Im talking about the influence of Intel, and the direction that graphics will head. In the end competition is good, I just hope theres enough competition (aka money) for competitors to actually contribute to the future of graphics

this will be quite interesting. but i dont think intel has anything lined up to take the crown away from ati/nvidia anytime soon. it will take atleast a few generations. but the graphic's industry could use a bit more competition no doubt. perhaps via should focus on developing high end cpu's. but i dont think they have the resource and funding to develop anything to that calibre.

when it says discrete graphics, they mean low-end graphics. so they're not trying to take the crown for the fastest gpu

Sure theyre not. Why on earth would they want to do that? If they can they will

I just hope that they decide to not make their IGPs utter crap. We've seen from ATI that it's possible to make decent low-powered IGPs, so now it's time for Intel to follow suit and produce something that will help stimulate the lower-end gaming market.

I don't hope much of Intel... thinking in lower-end gamers???

Intel isnt going to do a thing til Nehalem comes out. And thats assuming (notice the word) that Nehalem will be up and at em right outta the box for graphics too

seems like i need a graphics card for my eyes lolololol

I see two separate markets; notebooks and OEM boxes that don't come with discrete GPU's on one hand and discrete GPU's on the other hand. I do not expect Intel to put much effort into their IGP, not even as a core within Nehalem. I do expect Intel to put more effort into discrete GPU's to take on Nvidia and AMD.

Look at this if you havnt seen it http://www.intel.com/technology/ar [...] o/demo.htm

From what Im getting, Intel has let gaming down for years by never making a igp that can play games. Removing this ability from OEMs, who sell to average Joe, has helped to hurt the PC gaming indutry by not allowing the average Joe even a chance to game on his OEM rig. No seed planting for lil Joey. Now, as Intel enters the graphics market, I believe that the only reason theyre doing this is to set the tone for Nehalem. Its all PR. Just like the PR shot Intel and M$ got by giving 20 million for multicore research. About the cost to produce of one half a game according to this http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 507,00.asp Read this, its good. So to butter the bread, theyre going discrete to lead into Nehalem IMHO, after years of raping the PC gaming community with their sad efforts/excuses of their igps

Think about it though guys, if Intel gets in this thing, if they get good graphics, even built in think about the new 3200 series from AMD being built in on some of their mobos, I bet that would even game decently. If that's the case, it may push ppl to upgrade graphics into higher end cards, which means prices may get pushed down for everyone. Which is a beautiful thing with the greater economies of scale.

thats just one scenario....

Either way, competition will be good, if Joe Schmoe sees the pc can game, who knows maybe pc gaming will begin to rival ps3 and xbox 360.