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Hello - So I want a home theater PC - might combo as my main PC as well, dunno yet.  
 
My idea is to use Media Center as a the platform for managing all my media, pics, music & Movies.
 
Questions:
 
Can I Rip my DVD collection onto a couple TB's of storage and plan them through MEDIA Center, running optical into my A/V receiver for 5.1 Dolby/Dts, CAN I RIP THE DVD's FOR THIS??
 
How is the quality of the DVD's video & Audio?
 
I know that XBOX360 works as a Media Center extender - HOw well does this work, using the XBOX as the transport for the Audio & Video into the A/V receiver?
 
How much does the GRAPHICS CARD effect playback of FILM?
 
would the Graphics card have any effect if using the 360 as the transport?
 
WOuld the CPU make any performance gains for this use, could i go with an Alendale or dual core, or even less?
 
How would the Quality & Amount of RAM come into play for this?
 
Please help answer these questions and provide feedback of other ideas or ways of doing this.  
 
Thanks for the help
 

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Yes you can have your DVD collection on your hard drive and watch them through media center.

 

The easiest way is to download and install the My Movies 2 plugin for media center.  You'll have to rip/decrypt the DVD's to the hard drive.  I highly recommend DVD Fab HD Decrypter or DVD Decrypter, both are free.  With DVD's ripped in this manner, the quality will be equal to what you get from playing directly from the DVD discs.

 

The above method will eat up your hard drive space.  You may want to look into x264, h.264, Xvid, or DivX encoding.  You can get DVD movies down to ~800-1000MB each that way.  Plus, you can use My Movies 2 to load the compressed files within media center.

 

Hope this helps.


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I rip my movies for media center.
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/9075e2ab33a7c1a29b9ead020321105d2g.jpg

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roadrunner,
 
What format do you have your DVD's?  If you use a container file, which one and what encoding?
 
Also, is that a picture of the 'My DVD's' menu that you can enable through the gallery registry hack?


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video_ts format.
 
Ya its the registry hack.

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I've never tried the 'My DVDs' method.  Do you have to manually set up the DVD covers to display like that or does Vista look up the images for you?
 
I've been spending that last couple weeks compressing my dvd's to .mkv container format with x264 encoding for video and AAC for audio.  Its very time consuming, but worth it to get the file sizes down.


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I use the my DvDs method. IT finds the info for you. Some is not avail but most is. You can manually enter info through my dvds but I havent done it yet. I need to. MY DVD inteface isnt as clean as the way it looks with registry hack so I use it instead. You got to tell media center where to look for your movies.
 
I use a 500G HDD 69 movies on it so far with 100g left. If you get the images to work nice compressed will you send me a PM and let me know what i could do. I got to beable to have the front cover art no matter what.

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My quirk is that I'm a home theater guy. I own a business where we design and install entry level Home Theaters and multipurpose 5.1+ audio systems-  
My typical installs run with
A/V receiver $850 - 1500
Speakers L/C/R/SL/SR - $1500-3000
Subwoofer - $800 - 1500
 
Combined with a lot of flat screens. This all being said, I really critique audio quality the most and video quality 2nd. But i'm really trying to avoid losing any quality. I'll spend the money on a couple TB's of storage if thats what it takes, But I do want to get rid of as much garbage as I can when ripping. edit out the other languages, previews, warnings all that crap.  
 
Just have good Video and full digital audio.  
 
Is this possible?
 
And again, how much of a role do the PC components play for audio & Video playback?
 

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You could use any Intel e21xx line for CPU, and get a graphic card that is HDCP compliant and you will be good to go.

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So are PC games really that demanding that they are FAR SUPERIOR in video perfomance to our films and HD programming, that people spend all this money on high end video cards & CPU's, but if I were to use it to watch a movie, the difference from $100 8600GTS to a $500 8800GTX superclocked- wouldn't even be noticed for TV & Movies?
 
Thats incredible to me, how about the sound - if the MOBO has a digital out, that should carry all DOLBY DIGITAL & DTS info into the A/V receiver for decoding, right?
 

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Yes.  
Yes.

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Here's my thoughts, let me know what I could improve, or if something is a waste of money. I may change OS to Vista just for the smoother interface... dunno?  
 
Case & PSU - Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W SmartPower 2.0 Power Supply - Retail $110  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129155  
 
MOBO - GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail $80  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128059  
 
CPU - Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E2180 - Retail  $80  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116052  
 
RAM - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model $40 aftr MIB  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820146565  
 
Graphics - EVGA 512-P2-N757-TR GeForce 8600GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail $100 aftr MIB  
 
OS HDD - Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM  $60  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136062  
 
MEDIA HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000340AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM $260  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148274  
 
DVD-rw - SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM $34  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151154  
   
***** (note here, I dont know the dif from IDE and SATA, i think SATA is faster right??)  
 
OS - Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 w/SP2B - OEM  $115  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116049  
 
THings that I would probably add later:  
 
BLU-RAY DRIVE, more HDD space - I could imagine this being used for Internet browsing and light gaming as well  
 
What are you thoughts? Is this good, hows the price, is this more than what I need for a HTPC, even if I go Blu Ray??????  
 
Please advise.

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can't you edit your posts to make the links work?
 
as for the video card, you might as well just get a 8500gt or 8400gs passively  cooled. There are some reviews on toms somewhere that compare video playback and i think the ATI offerings were actually better, like the 2400xt.  
 
 

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From what I undertand the Graphics Card isn't going to make much dif with video playback, is that correct?
 
Please go to this thread to  view the Build Idea list:
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] d-critique
 
 

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Looks good except go with Vista.

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coryburgess wrote :

From what I undertand the Graphics Card isn't going to make much dif with video playback, is that correct?
 
Please go to this thread to  view the Build Idea list:
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] d-critique


 
Most of the hardcore HTPCers use ATi cards.  They say there is a noticeable difference in video quality between ATi and nVidia, at least this was the case.  I also thought that you had to pay extra for nVidia's video decoder (Pure Video), however, ATi's decoder (AVIVO) is free and generally better.  
 
Please correct me if things have changed, its been a year since I looked into this.


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If you're going home theater why not get a case such as this...
Moneual LAB Black MonCaso 832B ATX Media Center / HTPC Case - Retail
 Aluminum
 Remote Control Module
 Front Display  
$299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811280008
Much nicer and slips right in with your av receiver..
 
I am using a silver CoolerMaster cav-t04 case to match my Pioneer vsx-816.
My htpc is ecs g51 mobo with an amd 3800+, 1gb ddr400 ram, 80gb hdd, nvidia 8600gt 512mb video and onboard hd audio.
Didn't need the huge drive as I stream from my 1 tb server...I even have some "party" games installed on the 80 gb drive for gatherings....lots of fun.

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johnnyq1233 wrote :

If you're going home theater why not get a case such as this...
Moneual LAB Black MonCaso 832B ATX Media Center / HTPC Case - Retail
 Aluminum
 Remote Control Module
 Front Display  
$299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811280008
Much nicer and slips right in with your av receiver..


That's the case I'm using (silver version).  The Moneual 832 is $279 at www.quietpcusa.com.  Ve