alright guys, i need your help! i'm a noobie, i'm still learning about pc hardwares. First let me say who i am. I'm a gamer and i've been gaming for quite a while. I do tons of multitasking, design and few other small things. Gaming/performance takes priority! i want to have a good pc, that will be able to run crysis and few other high demands games. I ran crysis on my old pc which is what i'm using... it was not acceptable! Please talk to me like i know nothing. i know it may sound weird or dumb, but hey every one has to start some where right? well i'm learning and i'm very motivated to get going.
At first i thought about going to AMD x2 4600+ dual core. But then i saw intel e6750 i'm like oooh. i see the charts, that e6750 beats the amd cpu i was looking at. So i decided to go back with intel and forget amd. Anyways, just to let yall know, i already ordered the amd, mobo, video card,monitor.... i'm keeping monitor and video card i think. Sending back the amd and mobo once it arrives here. I think i did deeper, longer and i think i did better homework this time. Please keep in mind, i'm on tight budget, i will include the "wish list" from newegg here, so yall will have an idea what i have listed.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio [...] er=5283565

will get heatsinks later when i get more money. i'm thinkin about going with themalright or artic cooling. Also i will get higher psu later. i cant seem to find a good cheap 600w psu with good ratings, i'm worried about getting a bad/defected or even have a psu breakdown withen few months.

So, what you guys think? ths good setup or any changes needed? With a fast reply and clear response with good and clear description/explanations is greatly appreciated!

- nick

oh yeah, this will be my very first build ON MY OWN. i've build several pc's with friends who were pc nerd... lol

AND, i plann on doing some overclocking once i learn it =)

any one?

seems like the list is good.... no one comments for their opinons heh

P35s can't do SLI, only Crossfire. If it was me using a 24" screen (1920x1200) I'd definitely want at least 8800GT SLI/HD3870 Crossfire, otherwise games won't perform like one would expect. PSUs are the SINGLE most important things on your PC, if you were to skimp on ANYTHING be sure that the PSU would be the WORST place to do so, I'd change/add the following:

Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148069

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V EPS12V 610W Continuous @ 40°C Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, cUL, CE, CB, TUV - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005

This unit may be able to handle a system with SLI 8800GT, however if you're going to SLI then I'd definitely get the Silencer 750 to be sure.

Also if you need to buy thermal compound, I'd recommend that you get Arctic Silver Ceramique or Masscool Shin-Etsu X23 (the best and really hard to get) over the famous Arctic Silver 5.

Suggest a Tier II PSU, the Antec NEO HE 550 is nice. If you an afford it, the E6740 would be your best PSU. emp said, the board won't run SLI so if you want to run 2 video cards, they'll have to be ATI. If your not going to significantly overclock, the stock HSF that comes with the retail CPU will be fine

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=108088

Meh... Arctic Silver Ceramique is what...? $5? If you can't afford that then you should grab a gun and just blow your brains out. Anyway agreed with the NeoHE, I use one myself powering my 8800GTS system (NeoHE 500, not 550) and I love it, but some people just don't love Antec as much as I do and I have to admit that the Silencer 610 deal is pretty attractive.

At that price point, you could get an Antec Nine Hundred for maybe $20 more which is definitely worth it, also the TP-Trio? I'm a fan of Antec, but if you're going to buy a PSU at that price, try the Silencer I gave or the Antec NeoHE 550 (the TruePower Trios are old stuff).

I would look for a cheaper EVGA/XFX 680i mobo instead, especially since the 780i are out now, and maybe some 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066 ram for OC'ing (Can be found at newegg for $100), also with that res (24" LCD 1920x1200 or 21" CRT 2048x1536) I'd definitely do SLI to get a good framerate while still keeping settings on high.

myself, i dont have the money to do any sli setup yet. reason why i went with p35 mobo, cuz of the reviews and ratings. Plus those mobo are good for ocing from what i see. (maybe i'm wrong). However i dont mind doing sli unless it was in my price range. (less than 1,000).

that PC Power & Cooling Silencer psu is a tad bit too pricy since what i have listed.

What mobo would you recommend for me? Since i'm only using 1 8800gt card... future like in few months then i'll probly grab another card to do sli.

Your list is private I believe, so I can't see it. However I strongly suggest you get a strong PSU over anything else, you will end up regretting it in the long run if you get a cheap unit. This is a not too expensive 680i mobo:

EVGA 122-CK-NF67-T1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813188015

okay. that comparing to the http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 128059.... why should i go for the evga 680i? just because of the sli feature?

i mean i see the p35 mobo has great oc.... but no sli feature.

Who needs SLI? Better off with a single card. Get a P35. The E6750 does 3.2 on the DS3L with stock fan and lowered voltage. PC 6400 (DDR2 800) will allow at least a 3.2 O/C at 1:1.

what i have now. listed as wish list

- CASE
COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-SSN3-GP Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
- CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6750 - Retail
- MOBO
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
- RAM
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-2GBHK - Retail
- PSU
XCLIO STABLEPOWER 500W ATX 500W Power Supply - Retail
still unsure what psu to get, i'm worried and having a hard time.


This is my 2nd list, i'm not sure... cant even decide.. i'm lost ahaha

everything the same except

MOBO
http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6813188015

ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148069


right, so no sense to get that 680i if i dont use do sli yet?

Here's a deal on Coolermaster case ;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119137

And a PSU
http://www.buy.com/prod/Corsair-VX [...] 52646.html

He said he is planning to SLI down the road, and with a 1920x1200 screen I'd be SLIing right away. the P35 does not allow for SLI, so if he's planning to do so doing the road he'll either have to buy a new motherboard or get Crossfire cards instead. I would suggest to make up your mind if you're getting dual cards down the road or not, this will greatly influence your motherboard decision, if think you'll be getting them, I think you might be better off with an HD3870 in case you still want to go with a P35 based motherboard.

I strongly suggest people to at least use 10% of their budget on a PSU if it's over a $1000 (Their budget that is), and if it's under that, don't go lower than $75 (Corsair VX units are most likely the best on that range), any lower than that is not really a good idea if you want a gaming build.

I can't possibly understand why would you want to blow $170 on a case if you're having trouble scrounging enough cash for a PSU as it is, especially when the Antec Nine Hundred (Quite possibly the best case ever made in my opinion) is at $120 before rebate and $80 after rebates on newegg.

hmmph, yeah i did mentioned about planning on sli down the road. however not very current or very soon. I was thinking, possibly around aprilish i will start doing sli and i'll get the rest of the good stuff (best/good psu, nice sli mobo and possibly 2 of the 9th series of nivdia card to make it sli).

i persume that what i have for set up is good.
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion...asp?ID=7550646

can you view it?

btw, added psu diff ram. how is this set up now?

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio [...] e=bvet4dog

thats the link. sry

Personally, I'd save some money and get the case and PSU I suggested above. I don't think you'll gain much with the ram, get the same in PC26400 for $50. If your wanting a modular PSU;

http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-52 [...] 70716.html

reason why i was leaning closer to the case i stated, is because of the features it has. more fans, roomy, and its bigger. not to mention the case you said, would be great aswell. i wouldnt want to drill any more holes and put more fans on the panels... i did it for my old pc and it worked good, just too much ahaha.

Heh... the Antec Nine Hundred I believe is the best air cooling case, it has 1x 200mm fan, 3x 120mm fans (two intake one exhaust), and optional 4th 120mm fan on the side panel. Enough room for 6 HDDs, 3 optical drives, and has a PSU-On-The-Bottom design which helps it to run cooler by not having to take the heat from the rest of the components and on top of that if the lower HDD bay is empty you also get a fan blowing on it.

If you're concerned about cooling, then you must know the Antec Nine Hundred was engineered with this in mind, the CM Stacker is not by any chance bad, but the only thing that it could possibly have over the Nine Hundred is that it is slightly more roomy, but the Nine Hundred is no dwarf.

Anyway nice list, I approve it, but if I were you I'd get an EVGA 8800GT in case the new high end does come out soon you might want to step up , but I honestly doubt nvidia is anywhere near done milking their G92.

now i just got recommended to go with the q6600 and keep my old xblade mid tower. they said, Just get new ram and heatsinks for both vid,cpu. that way i save money for the cpu/ram/psu instead of buying a case.

tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] Tpk=xblade
ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231145
PSU
Corsair 650TX 650W PSU - $143

those 2 would be great from what i see. And yes i'm keeping the evga 8800gt vid card. Now what you think of the list? i dont mind keeping the xblade case long as i have giant heatsinks onto the cpu/video card, lastly i can drill in more holes on the panels to put on more fans... but i'm worried about the room space/heating. What i said, would that work out good?