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AMD One Month Ago:  $14.49 per share
AMD Today:  $10.83 per share
 
AMD shares were worth 33% more one month ago than they are today.
 
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=AMD
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=aMD
 
 
Don't blame this on the stock market.  If the stock market lost 25% of its value in a month it would be a disaster.  That would be like the Dow Jones going from 13,000 to 9,750.  AMD losing 25% value in one month is just par for the course they're on.

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DDDDDDAMN?!!!


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It's the entire market, not just AMD.
Yes, AMD is getting smacked more, but its not because of Phenom's launch or its results.
Look at all the other semiconductor stocks - they got slapped around, too.  
The only reason why AMD is hurting worse, is the debt it's carrying around right now.  Add to that the dilution of its stock due to the last big sale it did.
 
The market sucks butt right now, and everyone is getting b*tch slapped for it.  Not just AMD.


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dang, sucks for them

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NMDante wrote :

It's the entire market, not just AMD.


 
No, it's not the market.  AMD has lost 25% percent of it's value per share in the last month.  If the market did that we'd call it a crash!
 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average One month ago:  13,521.62
Dow Jones Industrial Average today:  12,799.04
Difference:  722.58
DJIA Loss:  5.3%
 
Intel One Month Ago:  25.95
Intel Today:  24.63
Difference:  1.32
Intel Loss:  5.0%
 
AMD One Month Ago:  $14.49 per share  
AMD Today:  $10.83 per share  
Difference:  3.66
AMD Loss:  25.2%
 
So Intel is actually performing better than the market, while AMD's loses are 5 times greater than what the market is experiencing.
 
AMD simply can't blame the market when they are 5 times worse and Intel is actually doing better than the market.

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Intel is fluxing between 25-27 dollars every week(I check the stock market at work every day). Now since Intel has been selling so well most of Q4 and once their profits report I am sure it will jump.
 
The news of the Phenom launch not going so well should have probably gave Intel a boost but still Intel is at a buy rating where as AMD goes between neutral to sell and I am sure are at sell right now. That 622mill investment didn't help either.


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The total value of AMD/ATI is getting frightenly close to what AMD paid for ATI.


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Man TC, you really like rubbing it in huh? There's nothing to say but Phenom sucks and this just proves it...


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i feel for AMD, without them intel will just hold us all at the neck, with whatever technology they want, and at whatever prices they want.
 
C'mon AMD we are rooting for you!!! Give us another AMD64 vs Pentium 4 shaker, or a Radeon 9800pro vs Geforce 2 shaker

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TechnologyCoordinator wrote :

No, it's not the market.  AMD has lost 25% percent of it's value per share in the last month.  If the market did that we'd call it a crash!
 
 
Dow Jones Industrial Average 1 month ago:  13,521.62
Dow Jones Industrial Average today:  12,799.04
Difference:  722.58
DJIA Loss:  5.3%
 
AMD One Month Ago:  $14.49 per share  
AMD Today:  $10.83 per share  
Difference:  3.66
AMD Loss:  25.2%
 
Intel One Month Ago:  25.95
Intel Today:  24.63
Difference:  1.32
Intel Loss:  5.0%
 
 
So Intel is actually performing better than the market, while AMD's loses are 5 times greater than what the market is experiencing.
 
AMD simply can't blame the market when they are 5 times worse and Intel is actually doing better than the market.


 
Actually, Dante has an accurate point. A Street.com article linked to your link points out:
 
 
American Technology Research analyst Doug Freedman  

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The selloff came on a down day for the broader markets, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the Nasdaq Composite both in retreat.  
 
American Technology Research analyst Doug Freedman said chip companies carrying large loads of debt on their books are particularly suffering in the current environment.  
 
With the credit market tightening, there are concerns about the ability of highly leveraged companies to weather a downturn in the economy, Freedman explained.


 
Cam noted AMD's stocks falling a day or two ago, but the Dow has been falling as well. Based on AMDs past 'lackluster' launches, and the effects (or rather lack of) of those on AMDs stock, this doesnt look like the impact of Phenom...it looks like coincidental timing. It may be that investors have had enough of the false promises and are bailing, but it would not be in keeping with the stock's previously displayed trends...which didnt indicate much reactionary selling.


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I'm sorry turpit, and everyone else, but when a company's stock goes down 25% in one month it is SERIOUS!  There is no way around it.  Unless AMD does something dramatic in the next year, I can very well see them pulling out of the consumer CPU market, and maybe the CPU market all together.


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Yes, it is serious...that is not the question. The question is the reason why the stock is falling is....i.e. is it phenom, or the credit/Dow?  
 
If its the credit markets/dow...then tomorrow, the stock may very well be up 25%. If its Phenom....well then not so much.


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exit2dos wrote :

The total value of AMD/ATI is getting frightenly close to what AMD paid for ATI.


 
 
a good american company need to buy amd before the arabs buy it for a few tankers of suv juice

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I'm sorry turpit, and everyone else, but when a company's stock goes down 25% in one month it is SERIOUS!  There is no way around it.  Unless AMD does something dramatic in the next year, I can very well see them pulling out of the consumer CPU market, and maybe the CPU market all together.


 
AMD stock has been falling for sometime now.  Just cause it dropped 25% in a month does not equate K10 (Barcelona/Phenom) launch or release, as the thread title notes.
 
The stock market is in a flux with more than just AMD getting nailed.  The housing bubble bursting, tighter credit market, and who knows what is around the corner.
 
I'm not saying losing 25% in a month isn't bad, it's terrible, but there is more in play than just AMD releases that is causing this downspin.  


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I said this would happen. AMD isnt financially viable at the prices they are currently asking for their products. Investors know this and have priced the stock accordingly.

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Yeah, I agree that this is much more than Phenom.  You can go to just about any market site, Bloomberg, The Street, The WSTJ, and they all say it has to do with financing.  The reason being, investors fear stock dilution.  
 
If you look at the market in general, it sucks.  Expect it to continue falling.  The credit markets, real estate, all the financials.... just look at the market, and then considering AMD's debt situation, it shouldn't be to surprising.
 
Wombat,
 
If AMD continues to build debt, and dilute the stock, it will continue to fall.  But, if the market stabilizes I expect it to continue to trade in the $11-$14 range.  


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NMDante wrote :

AMD stock has been falling for sometime now.  Just cause it dropped 25% in a month does not equate K10 (Barcelona/Phenom) launch or release, as the thread title notes.
 
The stock market is in a flux with more than just AMD getting nailed.  The housing bubble bursting, tighter credit market, and who knows what is around the corner.
 
I'm not saying losing 25% in a month isn't bad, it's terrible, but there is more in play than just AMD releases that is causing this downspin.


 
 
I'll add my 2 cents worth. I invest in several stocks. As of today, my average loss is 25% on all the stocks I have. One has gone down 50%. I'm hanging onto it because its a good, solid company and will come back. In the meantime, it pays a good dividend.  
 
AMD being down is just a part of the overall market. No doubt, both Barcelona and Phenom play a part of it, but the ATI division should be helping it greatly with the 3850 and 3870 cards. I think AMD should hold through under normal stock trading, but the bigger question is whether or not it will get squashed from a herd mentality that's taking the rest of the market with it. That, along with the high debt it has to service. The whole market is suffering, and AMD is part of that market.


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