My .... My ... Why don't I see any posts about the new ATI 2950 ?? Fully Directx 10.1 capable .... low priced ... blowing nvidia 8800's away .... need I go on ? Release date november ! Advanced SLI capable ! My bank card is now burning a hole in my wallet ----- I knew if we waited a bit the video wars would pay off . Come on TH ..... put some specs and reviews on their possibilities here !

Maybe because they're not beating the 8800 GTX so it's not really news...

Don't believe the hype !!

ATI is not even in the game anymore, and their drivers aren't much better.

IF, there is any truth behind this one very small victory for ATi, then it will be short lived.

What? The 2950 has been released and there are benchmarks? Someone show me the way!

No it hasnt been released, theres just alot of speculultion going around.

Both the 8800GTs and 2950s are looking good if the rumours are to belived, with low power consumption (or better overclockability in my book), competitive pricing and perfromce in between the 8800GTS and GTX. Perfect!

But they are rumours...

Hopefully they will be around £120 so I can afford one.

BFG..... I know it's hard but try not to be a fanboy. ATI not in the game, are you kidding me? And their drivers aren't much better than what?

the HD2950s will beat the 8800gtx by alot i am getting 1 ill never buy any nvidia crap i removed all nvidia stuff from my pc

I agree.

Just look at the hype with the 2900xt before it cam out!

Don't get me wrong; I like the 2900xt, especially placed against 8800gts; but it was initially hyped to be the 8800gtx killer!

I really hope the 2950xt is awesome (I admit I am a ATi fanboy), but till we see some benchmarks, I would not judge to much.

Don't spout utter crap. We now know how the architecture performs, the specs of this card and its rough price. It WILL be a very good card for the price and if it isn't for 8800gt then it would cause serious blows to nvidia.

And it IS confirmed for the RV670...

Same core specs as r600
55nm
256bit interface
512mb gddr4 memory
clocks I cant remember off top of my head but i think its 825 for core and 1250 for memory.

But please feel free to give me a few points behind your absolute knowledge.

If only if it wasn't for a better nVidia card, or a better company beating us, or ATi had better drivers, or a law was passed saying we all had to run ATi's, it would be a much better card... honestly !!

Come on give it up, and not that I should knock your over-whelming fountain of knowledge, after only being out of school longer than it took me to drink my last cup of coffee.

Hey, do you even remember Pac-Man ??

If you want I can mention how you may be a disturbed individual arguing with a young person on an online forum, but I wont go into taht because im better then you obviously.

But if you go into things like age or insults again just because you cant think of anything intelligent to say ill probably report you.

Wana post? Then dont post rubbish.

ATI card = Good

And im getting an 8800gt, just for record.

do us all a favor and get one now..., good riddance

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inqu [...] nce-driver

If that indeed is true, ATI just stepped up their game a lot on the one thing nvidia suck at, drivers.

Those improvments are immense.

You seemed confused. 2950 isn't a high-end video card, it's more of the replacement for the x1950 pro.
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/HD [...] ml#Scene_1

@bfg72

Lighten up or go away. We don't like your kind here. This is a place for discussion, not insults and stupidity.

It supposed to be but I cant see anyway its going to under-perform the 2900xt, its got half the memory bus rate but it has 70mhz+ core clock.

What its supposed to do and what it will do will be totally different. Higher resolutions id say the 512bit will help it lots, but the card generally does bad at high resolutions anyway. If the AA problems are solved in the new model aswell which they should be, then we have a new winner.

It is NOT the R670 but a RENAMED R600 (aka RV670). So you really can't compare the slower outdated gpu with the newer R670 gpu.
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/ [...] PD&seq=211

DX10 is what matters in this part of the market, and the 2900XT is extremely inferior to the 8800GTX in DX10. Therefore it is unlikely that the 2950 will beat it - but we will see and until then, who knows?

This is just a pointless flame war.