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I apologize for wasting forum space, but I am very new to Tom's Hardware and am looking to build myself a new computer. I am completely lost and I do not know where to start, where to go for information, and how I should select my parts to determine what computer is worthwhile. If anyone can help, could anyone tell me what essential components are needed build a computer and what parts make up the system. I want to build a fast computer that is suitable for top-notch gaming and something that can multi-task. Any information would be appreciated. |
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Welcome... no honest posting from someone needing help is ever a waste of space.
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oh boy... here goes a really long and bearly readable paragraph by me. I'm assuming you know NOTHING so I'm explaining EVERYTHING in detail. It's not that I'm assuming you are stupid. I'm also assuming you just want a gaming rig not to learn about the details of every components so here it goes.
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Alright, itotallybe lieveyou, thanks for the advice! You just gave me the same fever because I'm about to churn out a post that's even longer than yours |
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I haven't read your whole post and will update this accordingly but first off the Striker Extreme is not the best socket 775 board out it just happens to be one of the most expensive. The Striker has the Nvidia 680i chipset which are two chips on the board (Northbridge and Southbridge) which control and direct information throughout the board, it does not have a graphics card of any kind as usually only micro-ATX come with integrated graphics. Nvidia vs. ATI: Currently the fastest video cards available are from Nvidia so if you want the best that would be your choice. This part ties directly into your next question though as you said the a 19in monitor is all you need and for that size the GTS320 or the 2900 XT would be more than capable. As for brands of monitor you really can't say that one is always good. Viewsonic is a good brand and so is Dell, Benq, Hanns-g and Samsung among others. It depends on the actual model because every manufacturer has some bad products in their lines. On to the harddrives, I have had luck in the past with Seagate drives and am using them in my current machine but I would have a hard time recommending them at this point due to a recent rash of problems people have been having with them. The Samsung Spin Point is just about the cheapest and one of the best 7200 RPM drives you can get at this time and if I were to make a recommendation that would be the one. As for size it's up to you but 500gb is currently the lowest dollar per gb price and is likely your best option. Next up is memory. RAM prices change often and there are many good manufacturers out there (many of which use the same actual chips) so choosing you RAM should be done when you are actually ordering. If you are using XP you really don't need more than 2gb and you should just look for a quality brand with good timings. Just to give an example http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231087 this is a good product with timings of 4-4-4-12 and it's $55 after rebate. Cases are a very subjective thing. There are many that would say that you should just get the cheapest available because it's just a box to hold your stuff while others like me might disagree. This http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119121 is my case, not the cheapest by far but I feel it was worth every penny. Some things to consider when choosing a case are thins like do you want a door, do you want a window, how many USB or Firewire ports do you want and where are they located. One of the things I hate about the NZXT cases is their placement of the front panel connectors (USB, Firewire, Headphones) on the right side of the front bezel at the bottom where they are very difficult to reach. Good brands are Silverstone, Lian-Li, Coolermaster, Antec and Thermaltake. Another thing to consider when choosing a case is the bling factor and how much that matters to you. Air cooling works just fine and is the least expensive option. A good air cooler can be had for about $20 the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro and they go all the way up to the best the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. Other good coolers are the Tuniq Tower, Thermalright Ultra 120 and Zalman 9700. The two best watercooling companies are Swiftech and Danger Den and as for things like phase change there is the Asetek VapoChill.
Message edited by ausch30 on 09-21-2007 at 10:24:24 AM ---------------
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Alright so I have done a bit of research and customer review reviewing and this is my list. Please give me feedback on this and give me suggestions as well as where I might look to find out if I can get a better deal (in terms of better technology for cheaper/better prices). AUsch30, thanks for the advice and I want to ask you about the Seagate hard drives and the Striker Extreme. For the Seagate drives, where do you base most of your claims? I mean have you looked at forums and review cites and can you tell me where you heard most of the complaints for them were?
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If you need the ability to run SLI then the Striker is a good board but there are still a few I would suggest before it. My board the P5N32-E SLI is exactly the same as the Striker except for a e-sata port and power, reset, and reset cmos bottons on the board and it's $100 cheaper. You can buy a e-sata card for $10 and unless you use an open test bench the buttons are pretty much useless, why would you reach inside to press power or reset when you can just do it on your case and I have overclocked my board a lot and have never had to reset the cmos. Lastly, the 680i chipset boards have had issues throughout their existance, most of these have been worked out through BIOS revisions and board revisions but you still run the risk when buying one of getting one with problems. Your buying one video card and one hard drive do you really need capabilities like RAID or SLI or do you just want a solid board which overclocks well and will be upgradeable beyond even the next generation of CPU's, if your answer is yes then look at this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128059
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128050 And if your looking for something with all the bells and whistles then http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131181 The only thing about the last on there is it only supports DDR3 which is the future but at this time is very expensive. As for Seagate as I stated before, I have always had luck with their drives and really haven't had reason to buy another companies product. That being said I can't dismiss all the reports I've read on various forums and message boards about their drives and the problems people have been having with them. Their newest series of drives, the 7200.11, should be out soon and might resolve some of the issues but until then I think you would be better off with the Samsung you chose. This is my drive Message edited by ausch30 on 09-24-2007 at 02:52:29 PM ---------------
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Message edited by mad-dog on 09-25-2007 at 12:54:13 AM --------------- How to build your own PC... http://forumz.tomshardware.com/har [...] 12126.html |
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Wow, some really long messages in this thread... Just my 2 cents: Striker Extreme + ATI card doesn't make sense to me. If he's getting a Striker Extreme (or, smarter, P5N32-E SLI), he should combine it with a 8800 GTX. This way the SLI option is still there, i.e. he can add a second card later. Alternatively, if he likes the HD2900XT, he should get a good CrossFire motherboard (wait a week for an X38, or get a P5W-DH).
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I'm new to this RAID stuff, could you elaborate more on it? Please give me some advice as you feel fit.
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