Check This Out! But first where is K10? Period!

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Future plans can and do change. Not that I have much faith in AMD right now.

I hope they do not, if K10 is still a future plan then its a pretty bad situation. The roadmap is more aggresive and I don't think they would stick to it. Let's wait and see.

as you said tho where is K10 (i know i know Q3)
im not all that interested in next year until they can deliver on this year's promises or provide some info

Interesting read. I hope AMD stays on schedule with the AM3. But I noticed where they said the roadmap for AM3 from 2006 is not the same as AM3 for 2008. The 2006 AM3 will become the AM2+? It seems as though AMD wants to keep the AM number deisgnation consistent with the memory support, i.e.; AM2 and AM2+ support DDR2 whereas AM3 supports DDR3. I look forward to the performance gain DDR3 brings given the noticeable performance boost it gave video cards.

Memory support aside, I'm more interested in socket compatibility. If AMD can repeat their Skt939 success with AM2/AM3 and make cpu upgrades a matter of a simple BIOS update, then they'll be able to keep the enthusiasts happy. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Hmm ... let's see, we have a few choices here...
1)It was kidnapped by aliens ...
2) The monster of Lockness ate it ...
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Outside of the usual promises that they will not deliver behind schedule like they have in the past, I got a distinct impression that AM2/AM3 compatibility may not be as expected. Obviously, we need to get closer to release before we know what is going to happen.

Call me sceptical but I live in the UK and so far I can’t get a hold of any the recent AMD chips namely the Energy Efficient chips or any of the new 65nm chips, not to mention the R600 delays.

Frankly AMD should concentrate on getting these products to market first rather then worry about trying to catch up with Intel with its paper launches.

how can they talk about 45nm native quadcores with bigger l3 cache's when we haven't seen one 65nm native quad!?

I AM OFFENDED SIR!! YOU INSULT MY HONOR!

It is always more pleasant to talk about the future when the present stinks.

Interesting, in my country (Lithuania) its hard to get any AMD cpu NOT 65nm

As much as everyone is blaming AMD for R600, it wasnt really their fault. Their joined the party when R600 was already almost "cooked" From what we know, R600 was slowish and power hungry (~240W rumoured), so I think its where AMD steped in and postponed for ~3 months and pushed hard 65nm release.

We will see real AMD produced video cards in R700 or even R800, since R700 team should be working for some time now, as all chip makers have several teams working on two-three next gen cards/cpu's.

I agree 65nm was short lived node for AMD, but I'm not aware of their problems at this tech, majority of their cpus and video cards released as we speak are 65nm. Actually AMD forced ATI to migrate from 80nm to 65nm in less than 6 months afaik.

Even if they had some issues at the start with 65nm, its already ironed out, so IMO push to 45nm is based on "being on giant shoulders" - IBM. If IBM can provide more or less smooth transition for AMD to 45nm, then the faster they migrate, the better for them from any point of view, since Intel is heavily pressuring them atm.

poor 65nm...trying to kill amd...

maybe they cancelled barc or intend it to be in boutique quantities until the 45nm switch, and this is their way of admitting that Barc IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME...

if 65nm is problematic for AMD, then won't the transition to 45nm be even more problematic even if (as some other poster said) IBM is helping them in the transition to 45nm. If it is so, then isn't IBM helping AMD with 65nm tech?