Microsoft will ask for the code from the centre of your legitimate disc before allowing you to activate your hijacked version (you know, the really faint, hard to read serial number of the disc itself). It took over an hour of conversation for my son-in-law to convince MS that he had a legitmate copy of XP even with this method available.

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M$ should’ve immediately apologized and activated your software and compensate for the problems their activation system caused.

Microsoft will ask for the code from the centre of your legitimate disc before allowing you to activate your hijacked version (you know, the really faint, hard to read serial number of the disc itself). It took over an hour of conversation for my son-in-law to convince MS that he had a legitmate copy of XP even with this method available.

QI first read about the 'Brute Force' key generator on the Doom9 site a few days ago. They posted a link to the site that 'Computer User' (we have a little Who's on first here) resides on. He insists the thing does not work. This might simply be a hoax but if not the implications are (from my point of view) fantastic. Microsoft's method is just like online gaming (for those that do not know) and validation is one of those dirty little things your system does behind your back (ET phone home).
"Computer User's Home Away From Home"

Could you install it offline, and use the telephone activation? I'm not sure I like the sound of it doing stuff behind my back.

Could you install it offline, and use the telephone activation? I'm not sure I like the sound of it doing stuff behind my back.Well we all know that at some point you will need to get to MS Windows Update and the easy answer is NO you CAN'T.

Sure you can. I have PCs that have never connected to an outside connection (no outside network or modem access).

LOL These days what is the point of a grounded box? No offence but that is what you are talking about. No updates of any sort. No online games. No porn. No virii. No downloads. No internet and no Tom's. So then you have a word processor and solitaire game station... Nice. So then why pay the 4 bills to get Vista? Windows 95b would be great!

One of the points of Secure Computing is that you download only the updates that apply to you. Keep the box off the INet and use it for business data and you can still use it for gaming. You know what you are accessing and have less to worry about your data protection. Online games should be on a PC that you can afford for others to see your data. I download all of my updates off the net on the public PCs and apply them manually internally. I've never had a virus or spyware issue. No data loss issues. I have PCs that I use for public use that are not on that network, but really who would ever suggest that any INet access is secure? If you're just surfing porn, why use Windows at all - I understand that Mac has a prettier screen. So, yeah, you are totally incorrect and you can disable Windows Update if its an issue (and probably should if you don't know enough that you can't).

I dont see why anyone would want to crack windows vista at this point in time. I hate vista. Its caused me alot of grief with geforce 8800 video drivers, my battlefield 2142 locksup and crashes too often, had to do alot of looking about for compatible software. When I had XP PRo I was mr superstar and everything worked perfect. Screw Vista + those fools who manage to crack a key for it

There is a way around the MS verification. Namely, the verification generator that Microsoft themselves supplies. I'll let you figure that out since you're so smart.

Why would you even say that Mr. Sick? Does Tom's Hardware condone going "Around" DRM?? Are you saying that it is OK to what according to the DMCA is theft when you "Go Around" things??? If you are attempting to send a message to Microsoft, LOL there is a better way! Don't USE DRM infested crapolski. Don't buy it or steal it simply ignore it; after a while it will just go away.

Its in my nature to work around and exploit every hole in software. I'm not sending a message, I'm just stating fact. And besides noting a hole in Microsoft's own verifier, I'm not giving anyone the instructions on how to crack Vista.

And all this is being typed from a Vista computer. Payed for. In full.

The DMCA is clear and you are clear that it is in your nature to violate the DMCA. In a nutshell MS does not have to protect anything and the consequences of DMCA infractions remain the same. All you have to do is "work around" “things” (things means PROTECTION) too many times. As for MS tools you must be talking about the Paradox OEM workaround. That method is also infringing. Get a grip dude.

No, I'm not. You'd do well to stop assuming.

You'd do well to (blank)......
That is a threat baby and you can take that threat and put it where the sun does not shine...
See what I'm sayin moonbeam?

Where is the threat? Point out specifically where the threat is. If you are talking about to your intelligence, I can't do anything about that. If you mean to your person, I've got nothing more to say to you.

As for the "Brute Force" Crack:

http://keznews.com/2442_windows_vista_keygen_a_hoax_

post #3 above ^^^^^ already has this info. There is a point to make though. Computer User is doing everything he can to disclaim anything regarding that generator. MS seems content to let things ride for 120 (using rearm) days. There is no telling what little gremlins are still sleeping inside vista.

I saw your post, but I missed the link. Apparently, they are working on a new way around it - but MS is sure to shut this door.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38029

I wish people would just pay for their freakin' software. The more hacks - the more countermeasures, and the legitimate users are the ones caught in the middle.