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Does it exist and if so how does it compare to that of a Zire 72? I
have a Zire 72 and the camera is 1.2MP. Much better than that of a cell
phone. The audio recorder is okay,but not great. Its perfect for
dictation, but awful for lectures, and anything other than dictation.


John

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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:56:34 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

>Does it exist and if so how does it compare to that of a Zire 72? I
>have a Zire 72 and the camera is 1.2MP. Much better than that of a cell
>phone. The audio recorder is okay,but not great. Its perfect for
>dictation, but awful for lectures, and anything other than dictation.

It'd probably be more practical to get separate digital camera because
they are available in higher MP than the PDA camera. plus digital
camera usually offers zoom and other features not found on PDA camera.
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"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
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> Does it exist and if so how does it compare to that of a Zire 72? I
> have a Zire 72 and the camera is 1.2MP. Much better than that of a cell
> phone. The audio recorder is okay,but not great. Its perfect for
> dictation, but awful for lectures, and anything other than dictation.

The I-mate JAM / O2 XdaIIMini built-in camera is 1.3MP and pretty good - but
if you wait long enough, I'm sure someone will come up with something even
better.

Cameron:-)

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HP rx3715 has a 1.3MP camera that is rated pretty well for what it is. Don't
know how it compares to a Zire as far as the camera goes. It of course also
has a voice recorder, as well as WiFi and BT. It has the NEVO remote
software built in as well as a nice streaming app and media player remote
that can be used over WiFi and all the usual PPC bells and whistles.

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"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
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> Does it exist and if so how does it compare to that of a Zire 72? I
> have a Zire 72 and the camera is 1.2MP. Much better than that of a cell
> phone. The audio recorder is okay,but not great. Its perfect for
> dictation, but awful for lectures, and anything other than dictation.
>
>
> John
>
> --
> CERM- Church Education Resource Ministries
> http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
>
> 2Tim. 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in
> season and out of season; correct, rebuke
> and encourage < with great patience and careful instruction.
>
> AIM: Crucifyself03

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If you are really looking for a camera, it doesn't matter if the PDA has a 2
mega pixel camera, the quality is going to not be good. When the lens is a
pin hole, the picture will be nothing compared to a real camera lens.

There are a number of devices with cameras, the i-mate JAM or new iPAQ
hw6500 are two that come to mind first.

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Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)

"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
news:john.doggett-117D20.17563420072005@news.charter.net...
> Does it exist and if so how does it compare to that of a Zire 72? I
> have a Zire 72 and the camera is 1.2MP. Much better than that of a cell
> phone. The audio recorder is okay,but not great. Its perfect for
> dictation, but awful for lectures, and anything other than dictation.
>
>
> John
>
> --
> CERM- Church Education Resource Ministries
> http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
>
> 2Tim. 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in
> season and out of season; correct, rebuke
> and encourage < with great patience and careful instruction.
>
> AIM: Crucifyself03

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Some devices do have a digital zoom on the included cameras...but of course
that is nothing compared to a digital camera and optical zoom. I agree with
your opinion Impmon.

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Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)

"Impmon" <impmon@digi.mon> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:56:34 -0700, Bible John
> <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
>
>>Does it exist and if so how does it compare to that of a Zire 72? I
>>have a Zire 72 and the camera is 1.2MP. Much better than that of a cell
>>phone. The audio recorder is okay,but not great. Its perfect for
>>dictation, but awful for lectures, and anything other than dictation.
>
> It'd probably be more practical to get separate digital camera because
> they are available in higher MP than the PDA camera. plus digital
> camera usually offers zoom and other features not found on PDA camera.
> --
> When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already
> too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX
> To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net

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"David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
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> Some devices do have a digital zoom on the included cameras...

and they might be?.... (if you could be so kind)

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The MPX220 allows for digital zoom. But remember, digital zoom is about as
good as just zooming in on a picture after you take it.

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Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)

"Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
> message newsjoEK8ajFHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Some devices do have a digital zoom on the included cameras...
>
> and they might be?.... (if you could be so kind)
>

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Thanks for the model and the feedback on it.


"David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
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> The MPX220 allows for digital zoom. But remember, digital zoom is about
> as good as just zooming in on a picture after you take it.
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davespda.com
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>
> "Chance Hopkins" <chance_hopkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uIrUCObjFHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
>> message newsjoEK8ajFHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Some devices do have a digital zoom on the included cameras...
>>
>> and they might be?.... (if you could be so kind)
>>
>
>

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"Cameron Dorrough" <cdorrough@nortonconsultants.com> of Customer of AAPT Pty
Ltd wrote:
>The I-mate JAM / O2 XdaIIMini built-in camera is 1.3MP and pretty good - but
>if you wait long enough, I'm sure someone will come up with something even
>better.

It's 1.3MP, but the one on my TMobile Compact is rubbish. Pink casts on
sunny pictures, manages not to focus anywhere, and lots of the pictures are
very washed out. Worse results than with a mobile phone from 2002.

Insist on trying before you buy if the camera is important to you.
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I have the HP rx3715 its my first windows PDA
I got 5 years out of a Palm VX, so I was very conscious of battery life and
PDA size.

As an attempt at a multimedia device, its pretty good and reasonably priced.
The multimedia angle and the Wifi + bluetooth got me in.

The samsung 400Mhz cpu keeps the cost down, has plenty of power (ie no
delays or pauses), its power management is ace, even with Wifi on the
battery lasts way over 4 hours. As an MP3 player it looks like I may get up
to 8 hours out of it. Media player 10 is on it, and it catalogs all the
pictures, songs and videos.
The large 120 odd meg of built in IPAQ file store (non volatile) safe memory
compares very well with others that have far less.
That memory is a top spot to install programs to and reserve the removable
SD card for music or videos.
The camera needs good lighting to work ok. Not ace but its been handy to
have.
Superior quality to a camera phone for sure.
Handy EG: Snapshot the whiteboard after a meeting and email it to the
participants of the meeting and conference call. Spot something in a shop.
See something funny. Otherwise use a real digital camera.
The audio recording lets you turn Auto gain control on or off.
I left AGC on and turned up the recording quality a notch, Record to SD
card. Meetings record clearly but because I am directly on top of the PDA
on the table, I can sound a bit boomy when I talk.

The IPAQ Mobile Media software built into the windows rom also lets you
stream content over Wifi to the PDA. Server software installs on your PC.
So I can wash the car and be listening to the MP3 collection stored on the
PC in the study.
Or in reverse control the PC via the PDA.
If you have an XP media PC connected to the TV and stereo, you can remote
control it over wifi from anywhere in the house.
This works well, I bought a Belkin Wireless Pre-N MIMO access point for that
job.
It secures with 128 WPA and TKIP, the range is ace, connection is stable.
Battery life does not suffer.
TIP. I got the password string generated by random.org so that dictionary
attacks are out of the question and the security key is a truely random
sequence.

Bad sides,
It looks like a Windows 5 upgrade ROM may not be released by HP for the PDA.
Its still a QVGA screen, quarter VGA. So a dell X50 (VGA) looks ace next to
it.
But in Oz the X50 costs %30 more as well.
SD cards are only 1Gig in size at present, so as a MP3 Player, you have to
swap albums in and out a couple of times a week. 2 Gig cards have been
postponed I think.
Windows media right management (DRM) comes with the windows media player.
You can use betaplayer instead. It gets good reviews and is free.

I researched all of this stuff before I bought it.
I wanted to first locate all of the equvalent programs I had on the Palm VX.
I have been using for 2 months, I could recommend it.
It stands out from the rest for its battery life, connectivity, multimedia
functions and price.
Ben.



















"David Conger, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <dave at davespda.com> wrote in
message news:%23be8i7ajFHA.3012@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> If you are really looking for a camera, it doesn't matter if the PDA has a
> 2 mega pixel camera, the quality is going to not be good. When the lens
> is a pin hole, the picture will be nothing compared to a real camera lens.
>
> There are a number of devices with cameras, the i-mate JAM or new iPAQ
> hw6500 are two that come to mind first.
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davespda.com
> Microsoft MVP (Mobile Devices)
>
> "Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
> news:john.doggett-117D20.17563420072005@news.charter.net...
>> Does it exist and if so how does it compare to that of a Zire 72? I
>> have a Zire 72 and the camera is 1.2MP. Much better than that of a cell
>> phone. The audio recorder is okay,but not great. Its perfect for
>> dictation, but awful for lectures, and anything other than dictation.
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> --
>> CERM- Church Education Resource Ministries
>> http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
>>
>> 2Tim. 4:2 Preach the Word; be prepared in
>> season and out of season; correct, rebuke
>> and encourage < with great patience and careful instruction.
>>
>> AIM: Crucifyself03
>
>