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Somehow I wonder what happens if some hero programmer would be able to make DX10 happen on Windows XP. I mean common let's be honoust....it's possible....Microsoft has only one trick left and that's to go for the children....let's make the children pay and moan for DX10...let the children make their parents go wild so they'll buy a DX10 setup for them. Ummmm.....Has Microsoft sunken THAT low? Yes they DID. For example Microsoft has admitted that it will only run smooth when you use 2 GB's of memory....yes 2 GB's not the 512MB they refered to earlier on. Open your wallets people!! They do not only want to force your kids to buy DX10 cards they want you to buy more and more to get their money. Hell yeah I think they got deals with hardware companies. The more they act like this the more people will go Linux. Keep it comming Microsoft...show your monopoly game to the world....Linux (Europe) will take over this way, someday!! Somebody please get DX10 to work in XP like it works on Xbox 360 which also is not called Vista I'm sure it's possible 100% sure ;) Microsoft just won't do it for us.

ps: one example is Germany.....there are even pc's sold with standard linux freespire on it. Standard. Also The whole Munchen state is using Linux now. In fact germany has had enough of that American Microsoft junk (installing there pc again and again every year cause microsoft's OS got junked again by spyware and virusses. In fact more and more Germans are going Linux. Can you blame them? Kids can still play their windows games by emulation( maybe in a little lower benchmark but hey with nowadays powerfull graphics cards? who cares). And programmers are allready busy into injecting DX10 into Linux with a bypass. When that happens I know what to use. A low cost Linux distribution instead of paying a big amount of cash for a bunch of fake security crap.

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It's not a "trick". People will either upgrade to Vista or they won't... DirectX 10 isn't going to be a deal-breaker for most people unless they can't play all the latest games. I'll upgrade to Vista simply because it's the newest version of Windows, not because I can't get DirectX 10.

Linux has it's share of problems as well... you just don't hear a lot about it because the majority of people aren't using it. I see Linux security issues all the time because I subscribe to a newsletter that publishes all security issues... not just those about Microsoft products. Yes, Linux is better... but it's still not the utopia you make it out to be.

Everyone wants something for nothing these days. Free software now... next you'll be demanding free computers. Just because you think you're entitled, doesn't make it true. Software developers work hard and they deserve to be paid for their efforts. If you don't like the product, you're not obligated to purchase it.

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It's not a "trick". People will either upgrade to Vista or they won't... DirectX 10 isn't going to be a deal-breaker for most people unless they can't play all the latest games. I'll upgrade to Vista simply because it's the newest version of Windows, not because I can't get DirectX 10.

Linux has it's share of problems as well... you just don't hear a lot about it because the majority of people aren't using it. I see Linux security issues all the time because I subscribe to a newsletter that publishes all security issues... not just those about Microsoft products. Yes, Linux is better... but it's still not the utopia you make it out to be.

Everyone wants something for nothing these days. Free software now... next you'll be demanding free computers. Just because you think you're entitled, doesn't make it true. Software developers work hard and they deserve to be paid for their efforts. If you don't like the product, you're not obligated to purchase it.


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Sure Zoron...be my quest...just buy Vista cause it's just the new Windows you can't miss?

1: Microsoft admits you need 2gb's of mem to be able to run Vista Smoothly.
2: Benchmarks proof that xp runs programms faster
3: When you use Vista you might as well love all the popups asking you questions all day long with you clicking ok ok ok ok ok or...
4: Well, let's not mention the security issues right? That's getting boring.
5: I'm sure there are plenty more reasons NOT to buy it. Their monopoly games they are playing for example pissing the entire security brands off.

Well, I'm getting a little curious why you just want to buy Vista cause it's the new Windows Zoron. Cause you like a slower OS? Can you give me very good reasons....I mean reasons that make me believe you are computing more happely in Vista then in XP. :) Cause of the new look? Hell, you could as well use a shell in XP to get that done. OK, I admit the 3D interface is cool but watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq5-N1EljB0 That's linux! You can even bend the windows if you like and trow with them etc. But let's keep it to tha point...

But that's not what you are using an OS for...it's about what it REALY does. Running programms.....yes slower then XP.

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DX10. Nuff said.

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DX10. Nuff said.



DX10 functionality is also being worked on to making it compatible with linux and some gamedevelopers are starting to support Linux as well. thank you.

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I haven't noticed any appreciable difference in performance that couldn't be attributed to beta software running beta drivers. Vista actually runs pretty smoothly for me for the most part.

I like being ahead of the curve. When a new Windows OS comes out, I like to make myself familiar with it... because sooner or later somone is going to come in with a computer that has the OS pre-loaded... and I'll be expected to fix any problems it might have. It's much easier to diagnose and fix problems when you're familiar with the OS the customer is using.

So I will buy Vista just because it's the newest available... not because of DirectX 10, not because of the pretty shell or any other "stupid" reason you can throw at me. I'll buy it because I want it and because I want to know the ins and outs of it.

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That's indeed a good reason IF you have the money just to try it out together with a bigass pc (that indeed will not let you notice the difference) to get to know how to fix Windows problems. Cause that's what's Windows is all about right? Oh well....have fun with it :) Did not know you help costumers with problems m8 :D I respect your opinion.

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Well thank you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to Linux in the least. Once I make Vista my primary OS, I'll be installing some version of Linux again on the other hard drive. (I was running Fedora Core 5 with XP Pro until I got into the CPP for Vista... then my Linux drive became my Vista drive). However, Linux is still too "difficult" for most users. What I'd like to see is the power of a Linux OS combined with the ease-of-use of Windows.

Installing drivers is a great example. Instead of downloading a file and then double-clicking it, I had to search for an online user's guide to installing my ATi card under Linux... and even then it didn't go as smoothly as it should have. I did get it working the way it should, but it took a lot more effort than it would have with Windows.

Until this is addressed, Linux won't be a mainstream OS. People want to be able to have the option to plug in and go without having to configure absolutely everything in minute detail.

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Well thank you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to Linux in the least. Once I make Vista my primary OS, I'll be installing some version of Linux again on the other hard drive. (I was running Fedora Core 5 with XP Pro until I got into the CPP for Vista... then my Linux drive became my Vista drive). However, Linux is still too "difficult" for most users. What I'd like to see is the power of a Linux OS combined with the ease-of-use of Windows.

Installing drivers is a great example. Instead of downloading a file and then double-clicking it, I had to search for an online user's guide to installing my ATi card under Linux... and even then it didn't go as smoothly as it should have. I did get it working the way it should, but it took a lot more effort than it would have with Windows.

Until this is addressed, Linux won't be a mainstream OS. People want to be able to have the option to plug in and go without having to configure absolutely everything in minute detail.



WEll yes I totally agree with you....Linux does have some problems with some hardware drivers but that just because Linux is still not reconized as a really good alternative for Windows. It's like Microsoft is controlling also the hardware firms that they are making deals with. Anyways...I agree with you also that it would be a very very wise thing if Microsoft and Linux would join hands into making a much better solution for all the hardware issues. Still I think Linux should stay linux and Windows should stay Windows. If Mircosoft only could give Linux a bit more space it would be nice. The only thing that is keeping Linux to jump of the ground is Microsoft holding back the hardware firms from supporting it. It's very unfair.

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I've seen people modify Windows drivers to work with Linux, maybe that might be possible on a large scale.

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I've seen people modify Windows drivers to work with Linux, maybe that might be possible on a large scale.



The only way it will be possible is that for example soundcard companies would be able to give ALSA Linux programmers the piece of code they need to make the drivers. That's all they gotta do...they dont even have to spend money for it. It's that easy. But they just can't...I wonder why ;)

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Same reason I put off any kind of hard work, or work for that matter. Laziness.

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Windows supports corporate America; there is no way a huge company like GM could run Linux as their preferred OS on their employee’s desk. Linux learning curve is way too steep. Gees, don’t you forget some of the simple commands at times? Can you imagine GM secretary trying to mount a removal disk? Microsoft must answer to their share holders and that’s means the bottom line. IMO

It would be nice if MS supports Linux for the minority enthusiast, but right now there is Vista and either your on the technology train or your not.

I like Vista and look forward to my copy. Why fight it?

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