8600 GT8500 GT lack of HDCP & shattered media PC hopes...

I for one am dissapointed by the lack of hdcp on the 8600GT & 8500GT. Yes the individual card makers can add support themselves but from looking through the specs on the initial cards relased from xfx, asus, bfg etc it appears that NONE of the cards below the GTS are sporting HDCP support.

I was in the process of choosing components for a new media PC when these cards were released and it seemed like a streak of luck for low power cards with excellent HD video decode to be released at just the right moment to go into my new system (coupled with a cheap xbox360 HD DVD drive or possible blu ray in the future when it becomes cheaper or if it wins the format war)... boy was I mistaken!

For most gamers out there this won't be a problem, however with the new pure video 2 engine providing excellent hadware decode of all the codecs used in both HD DVD and Blu Ray these cards would be perfect for a media centre PC and at a good price (around £55 for an 8500GT/£90 for a 8600GT). I just assumed that even though hdcp was't mandatory on these cards that most of the board makers would still integrate hdcp support but since that has fallen through I then cast my eye to the GTS. Now remember I won't be using the card for gaming so lukewarm frame rates in <insert generic fps game name here> don't bother me so much.
However what DOES matter is the noise of the card and low and behold it's strike 2 against the card with just about every review stating that the fans are pretty damn noisy and worse still the 8500GT cards have only 2 pin fan connectors and thus have no thermal control meaning they run the fan at full speed ALL THE TIME!

After having carefully picked out Noctua case fans and CPU heatsink & fan precisely for their low noise and good cooling im not about to have the graphics card mess that up for me.
Now I realise that the 2nd revision of these cards will hopefully redress these issues but they probably won't be available for another 2-3 months and i'm not waiting that long to build my new system.

My only hope now lies with the new AMD ATI cards due out in May in the hope that they offer hdcp on their HD 2400\2600 and that their new UVD lives up to expectations.

Who knows, perhaps this was just fate dashing my hopes, but I hope that by making me wait a few more weeks until ATI release their new cards it may all work out in the end... :?:

Does anyone else have a suggestion for a decent graphics card which would go well with a HTPC? The current card I have penciled in is a x1950 pro with silent heatpipe cooler (hdcp is included on ALL x1950 pro's). What does everyone else think?

you could install your own GPU fan , but that does suck that theyre not HDCP, you would think by this stage all new cards would be supporting it

I was looking forward to these cards for the same reason, and am disappointed that virtually every maker out there chose to skip on the optional HDCP support.

So far I have found two non-8600GTS cards which are positively identified by their manufacturer as having HDCP support (not the lame 'HDCP-capable' pasted verbatim from the Nvidia site by some makers and many resellers):

- Gigabyte 8500GT (their 8600GT isn't HDCP-enabled):
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Product [...] uctID=2516

- BFG 8600GT:
http://www2.bfgtech.com/CMDocs/BFG [...] lPiece.pdf


The Gigabyte card looks ideal for a HTPC, being passively cooled. I would have liked to see an inexpensive passive HDCP 8600GT, since the 8600GT is rated at 43W max, and the 8500GT only at 'a few watts less' (I'm assuming 35-40W).

The other option is to wait for the Radeon HD 2400XT (35W, can handle 1080p unlike the 25W HD 2400Pro's 720p), which although saddled with a 64-bit memory bus, apparently sports built-in HDCP). Hopefully the Radeon HD's can also offload 100% of VC-1 off the CPU, not only H.264 like Purevideo HD.


I am also dismayed to see Nvidia hasn't released 8500/8600 drivers for W2K yet. A few years ago, their drivers were way ahead of ATI's...


P.S. Other, older cards aren't an option for me as I need HDCP over dual-link DVI.

I recall reading about some trick NVidia used to send one HDCP key over both links (pardon my non-technical terminology) on this specific series. While certainly less elegant than the R6x0 solution, it apparently works according to this (usually reliable) French website: http://www.clubic.com/article-7238 [...] ts-gt.html

They report success displaying HD-DVD content on a Dell 3007WFP-HC using a 8600GTS, failure using the (non-HDCP enabled) Gigabyte 8600GT.


I am aware VC-1 is less CPU-intensive than H.264, but every bit helps, as I'm running an undervolted S939 X2 3800+ passively, and would be loath activating the CPU fan just to watch movies. I understand my CPU is borderline for decoding HD content unassisted, but have no immediate plans for an upgrade (the HP 30" having eaten into this year's PC budget).