Hi.

I'm going to do an Intel c2d build after the price drops. Here is what i plan to use.

-e6600 or e6420
-Gigabyte DS3
-8800gts 320
-antec p180
-antec truepower trio 650 watt
-dvd burner
-250 gig hard drive

I was, until now, bent on getting ddr2 800 mhz RAM because it was just ^faster^

but now im wondering if it really is worth the premium, especially for a guy like me who wont be using an aftermarket heatsink, or overclocking beyond 3 ghz for the e6600 or 2.6 ish for the e6420.

Ive found these 667mhz modules that seem to be well priced, but they dont have the heatspreaders like other pricier modules.

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspe [...] KU=BA23421

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4565617


So, my question is whether i should get a simple 667mhz combo that will be sufficient for now, give SOME headroom for oc'ing, be able to work in 1333 mhz fsb, and save me money, possibly for a scythe ninja

Or I could just get 800mhz memory, for around $140, with the heat spreaders.


So what do you guys think is the best path for me, and which, if any, of those two do you think are the best?

Thanks in advance.

cmon guys, 20+ views and no replies?

Please guys, if you view this topic, can you please help me, I need to decide soon!

You can add heatspreaders on if you want, that's not a big deal, but I would go for the e6700 if you could, otherwise e6600, the 4mb cache versions of the 6300/6400 are a waste of your time and money, the performance difference is roughly 3% on average, but most of the time it is less, waste of money imo. The e6600 and e6700 will oc the highest (excluding the extreme priced extreme processors) because there is no binning on the the e4300s, and those two have the highest mults, most of the e6700s hit 4ghz if you have the right cooling on them, where as my friend's e6600 stopped at 3.7ghz, just above 400fsb and he had good cooling on it. And dump the true power, get something either modular for the p180, or something that has better efficiency, trust me, I own both a true power 2.0 and the p180. For the dvd drive, samsung has a nice sata burner that I'm buying soon for under $40 for the retail version including shipping on the egg, so that's a good buy (it also has lightscribe if that interests you), then do whatever you want with the rest, though I would pick a 650i with heatpipes over a ds3

yeah, but the trupower trio has like an 85% efficiency rating, i think its different then the regular truepower 2.0's

but since i probably will get the e6600 without an aftermarket (for now?) i should probably jsut get this, right?(below)

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] e=85016-16


it seems to fit my needs the best, and for the best price. ive heard it can take on 800mhz 5-5-5-12 easily.

and yeah, ive heard the ds3 runs hot, but if worst comes to worst, then i can just get a $5 scythe cooler. but the reason im probably getting it is that it is supposedly a lot more noob/lionhardt friendly than the p5n-e sli.

so, idk.

It's up to you on the memory, but I'm warning you about buying from zzf, they take forever and have messed up my orders before, I'd stay with newegg from personal experiences

Ok, I'm gonna keep this simple......

Stick with the DS3. End of story. Noob/Lionhardt friendly LOL. I wrote a DS3 OC'ing guide, I can send it to you later and get you OC'd like a pimp.

Next, if you got the cash, the 6600 is great. If you don't got the cash, get the 6300 and I can get you OC'd to 3.0ghz without breaking a sweat

Now, RAM. If you plan on OC'ing hardcore, you need some Micron D9 RAM. However, if you go with the 6600 and the higher multi, then you don't. Just get some cheaper 800 stuff. That Corsair is hit-and-miss. And if you are OC'ing, then just get something that comes with heat spreaders. Don't bother doing it separate.....not worth the time or money. Period. In my personal opinion, even the cheap 800 RAM is a better move than expensive 667. 800 is RATED for 800, and goes up from there. 667 might hit 800, might not......depends. Expensive stuff might, but why waste your money then?? So why take a chance???

Go with stock HSF now if money's tight, and add a Scythe or something later.

Heck, just go with a 6300 or 6600, some G.Skill 800, an OCZ GameXstream for $20 more than the Antec, and toss in a Ninja. BOOM, DONE!!! And that'll hit 3.0 no problem on a 6300.....higher on a 6600.

Seriously. Go that route. You'll be happy. You're killing yourself over minutae. Not worth it. A DS3, any 6xxx, S.Skill, an OCZ GXS, and a Ninja will kick ass, end of story. No need to blow your bank account to scoop 10% more performance or some crap like that. Save your money. Just do that setup:

-DS3
-6xxx
-G.Skill 800 (or even OCZ 800 if it's a good price)
-OCZ GXS 600w
-Ninja

Let 'er rip!!!




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man skyguy, you're mean , but that is pretty funny 8O

So basically, you guys think i SHOULDNT get the 667 CAS4 memory when its only at $120?

Cause im only thinking that i dont really want to oc the e6600 anymore than 3 ghz or so, because even at 2.4 stock it pwns. And since it has a 9x multiplier i can put the ram up to 333 (667) which its rated at, and get 3.0 ghz really easy. And since i already have the p180 and tp3 650 watt, which both run very cool, i could probably oc it on stock. Even if i had to, id just take the intel cooler off with rubbing alcohol, get some arctic silver, and get a ninja.

I saw the corsair XMS2 800mhz CAS5 for $135 AR, but the reabtes a pain in the ass.

So, considering how i wont overclock too much, do you guys think this seems like a reasonable path?



*****Oh, do you guys think that getting AS5 for $5 freeshipping and using that on the stock cooler is worth it? Or is it more trouble than its worth?


EDIT: Skyguy, can you pm me the guide, or do you want to email it to me? Having something to tangibly follow would be nice if i ever OC'ed.

Second EDIT : How's this Samsung burner for ~$37 with free ship? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] T=27151141 It'll match my $190 22' Samsung deal nicely^^

I thought I already told you before, as5 is a joke to daclan members, we already tested that and fuond out it is crap and couldn't stand up to radio shack gunk, if you want something good, go wtih this stuff, it's a newer version of arctic ceramique, which killed as5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835100012

Yeah, you guys did. But it jsut seems that arctic silver 5 is readily available, and only lost to the Shin Etsu by like 3 C.

What about the other parts i selected, do those seem good?

I already commented on the other parts in my first post, but think about the e4400 before buying anything, that thing is loaded with the 10 mult that the e6700 has, so it should be an overlcocking beast if you buy a cheap watercooling system to go with it like a thermaltake big water 745 (not really a very good kit, but it's cheap)

Yeah, but im not sure if i wanna OC that much, as im a first timer.

But with the ram, is that $120 CORSAIR 667mhz CAS4 no rebate good enough for what i want?

-at most, 3 ghz e6600 oc'ing
-stability
-low price

That's basically my main dilemma right now. Everything else is fairly good.

If you are just going for 3ghz, then why get the 6600? Save some money, and get an e6320 if you are really that interested in the 4mb cache, but I say get the e4400 for the higher mult on it, that leaves room for a very nice oc down the road

Agreed.

If you just wanna hit 3.0ghz then get the 6300 and 800 RAM.....you don't need the 6600, you can put that money into a better HSF and whatnot.

Ok, here's the thing about overclocking: unless you plan on doing a fairly decent overclock, don't bother. You won't notice much of a performance difference.....a few hundred mhz won't matter. Going up 1ghz or more, now THAT makes a difference. My 6300 is 1.86 ghz stock, and I'm at 3.2. That's a big increase. But to go from like 2.6 to 3.0....meh.

Dude, I can tell you the BIOS settings for a 6300 off the top of my head for you to hit 3.0ghz no problem Not that hard. Just get a good HSF and you're laughin. But why get a 6600 if you're only barely gonna OC it? Might as well save the money and get a 6300, OC it, easily push it past a 6600, and for alot less money too.

I'll PM you the Guide soon.