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Twisted_Si ster
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n°1588396
04-02-2007 at 06:20:55 PM

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=30&id=2229

A lot of interesting info. Also speaks to reasons behind delays.

try this link for the article in a "printer view "(so you don't have to click through all the pages):

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/print.php?cid=30&id=2229

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n°1588404
04-02-2007 at 06:29:03 PM

This is the same old bs that has/is been/being beaten to death here...

It is fine if you feel that the wait for product release is because of a redesign to make chips better, but imo it still spells out the lack of planning from AMD to compete with C2D tech overwhelming them in performance...

If they had a better product ready, I can not foresee delaying it or redesigning it this late in the game...

We will see soon enough for most of us, but the long we wait, the lower stock drops, and the more influence and damage Intel commands...

Twisted_Si ster
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n°1588405
04-02-2007 at 06:30:06 PM

I could pull out a lot of quotes... this one some might like:

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The PC OEM market today is one where it is very difficult to make any money. There's a reason for that and that is the monopoly and tax imposed by Intel. So because it is very difficult to make any money for the PC manufacturer, it is difficult for them to invest in true innovation and difficult for them to accept the cost that comes with progress.

jeff_2087
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n°1588410
04-02-2007 at 06:32:38 PM

Yeah, seems to be like it's the same old tiring "Even though we suck now, we're going to stop sucking soon, we promise! It'll be SO AMAZING! Oh and by the way, Intel is the devil and we're better than them."

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n°1588416
04-02-2007 at 06:37:54 PM

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"Even though we suck now, we're going to stop sucking soon, we promise! It'll be SO AMAZING! Oh and by the way, Intel is the devil and we're better than them."



LOL!

CaptRobert April
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n°1588434
04-02-2007 at 06:49:33 PM

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Yeah, seems to be like it's the same old tiring "Even though we suck now, we're going to stop sucking soon, we promise! It'll be SO AMAZING! Oh and by the way, Intel is the devil and we're better than them."



Couldn't possibly have summed it up better!!!

Twisted_Si ster
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n°1588439
04-02-2007 at 06:51:45 PM

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Yeah, seems to be like it's the same old tiring "Even though we suck now, we're going to stop sucking soon, we promise! It'll be SO AMAZING! Oh and by the way, Intel is the devil and we're better than them."



Couldn't possibly have summed it up better!!!

AMD starting the day at another 52 week low... sub-$13!!!

CaptRobert April
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n°1588440
04-02-2007 at 06:54:45 PM

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AMD starting the day at another 52 week low... sub-$13!!!



Yup, that $12.85 is Wall Street voting on Mr. Richard's optimism. :lol:

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n°1588441
04-02-2007 at 06:58:04 PM

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AMD starting the day at another 52 week low... sub-$13!!!



Yup, that $12.85 is Wall Street voting on Mr. Richard's optimism. :lol:

Yet another bash AMD post. Typical.

CaptRobert April
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n°1588451
04-02-2007 at 07:04:02 PM

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Yet another bash AMD post. Typical.



OK, allow me to modify that statement:

Reacting to AMD's newfound sense of optimism and their firm roadmap to dramatically gain market share in the next quarter, Wall Street reacted by driving the price of the stock to heady levels, a full $12.85 above Zero. :lol:

Just pullin your string, Baron... But then again, you seemed to like that in our night of lust! 8O

JUST KIDDING I AM NOT GAY AND I DIDN'T SLEEP WITH BARON NOR HAVE EVER SEEN HIM WITH OR WITHOUT WONDERBRA!!!!

meljor
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n°1588456
04-02-2007 at 07:09:03 PM

why didn`t you guys give Intel hell when they produced bad performing parts?

Athlon, Athlon Xp and Athlon64 were great products and it gave Intel every reason to come up with something great, it only took them VERY long to make something better than Athlon64.
Now Intel is on top (and i love their product) and is pushing really hard to give Amd a very bad time. You guys think that`s great but IF Amd goes under, we all have to pay!

So give them a little break and hope for computing (and your wallet) that their next product will be great again.......

I think Barcelona will be great. But the fact that it comes at max. 2.3Ghz and Intel going to 45nm and reaching 4Ghz is not a good sign for Amd. :?
That`s NOT a good thing, it`s a BAD thing for all of us!

Twisted_Si ster
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n°1588457
04-02-2007 at 07:09:46 PM

FYI - It is being reported by the AP that computer chip sales are up 8%, yet average price per chip is down 15%.

Hmmmm.... AMD revenue warns, yet Intel does not....

r0ck
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n°1588464
04-02-2007 at 07:15:59 PM

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articl [...] =2229&pg=4

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In the desktop, I'm a lot more skeptical. Of course there is always the marketing angle and you can convince people that four is better than two, but the fact of the matter is that there is no application that will take advantage of four processors, except for a very, very small sliver of the market space. And so, we have to be careful as an industry and not get trapped into the state of shipping a lot of technology that gets completely unused.

So if you ask me, today, in the desktop and notebook environment. Instead of spending more money on two cores that don't get used at all. I would advise customers to spend money on two cores that will get used and a good graphics processor to get the full benefit of the system.

Again, I think this is an area where our strategy differs from Intel, because we don't want users to spend money on technology that doesn't get used at all. Yes, there is a small percentage of desktop users that will see benefit from quad-core. That's why we made the Quad FX platform. That is a very niche and elitist enthusiast group of people that represent less than 1% of the market space. For the rest of the market, driving the message of quad-core knowing that people will never get benefit from it is really irresponsible.



And yet they're going for 8 cores :lol:

Sailer
Sailing in my Dreams
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n°1588465
04-02-2007 at 07:16:05 PM

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Yet another bash AMD post. Typical.



OK, allow me to modify that statement:

Reacting to AMD's newfound sense of optimism and their firm roadmap to dramatically gain market share in the next quarter, Wall Street reacted by driving the price of the stock to heady levels, a full $12.85 above Zero. :lol:

Just pullin your string, Baron... But then again, you seemed to like that in our night of lust! 8O

JUST KIDDING I AM NOT GAY AND I DIDN'T SLEEP WITH BARON NOR HAVE EVER SEEN HIM WITH OR WITHOUT WONDERBRA!!!!

I'm waiting for AMD to reach new heights in the $11 dollar range before re-investing, or maybe even the fabulous $10's. Not that I'm optimistic or anything

CaptRobert April
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n°1588466
04-02-2007 at 07:16:52 PM

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why didn`t you guys give Intel hell when they produced bad performing parts?



Do you want me to go through the archives to pull out the thousands of posts I made (in my previous THG incarnation) blasting Prescotts or even Coppermines? FYI, I have been an AMD fan since K6 and am currently typing this on a San Diego 3700+. I reserve my vitirol for whichever side is currently dropping the ball and right now it's AMD.

P.S. If Barcy/Agena performs up to expectation and the QFX platform gets cleaned up that's gonna be my next system!

CaptRobert April
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n°1588474
04-02-2007 at 07:23:04 PM

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I'm waiting for AMD to reach new heights in the $11 dollar range before re-investing, or maybe even the fabulous $10's. Not that I'm optimistic or anything



I've relayed this story before on this forum, but I'll summarize it. A guy I knew mortgaged his house and sold everything he had to go into Nortel before the bust. The last news I have of him is that he was seen lining up outside a Vancouver Soup Kitchen.

I think I'll keep my investments restricted to the Doc Johnson Catalogue. :lol:

Sailer
Sailing in my Dreams
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n°1588478
04-02-2007 at 07:25:01 PM

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why didn`t you guys give Intel hell when they produced bad performing parts?



I did. I even bought AMD cpu powered machines. I even went so far as to buy some AMD stock. It was fun talking about AMD highs while Intel sunk in the wasteland.

Now the situation has reversed. I haven't bought an Intel cpu, yet, but I sold my AMD stock (for a loss), I haven't bought any new cpu at all. I'm very disappointed with AMD and tired of their promises about what they'e going to produce someday, a day they won't confirm and even when they do confirm something, they then retract their confirmation with further delays while their stock sinks ever toward the bottom. So, I critisize AMD.

r0ck
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n°1588479
04-02-2007 at 07:25:49 PM

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None of the benchmarks today that have been published have been on Vista.



http://www.techreport.com/reviews/ [...] dex.x?pg=1
http://www.hwupgrade.com/articles/ [...] index.html

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Henri Richard: Intel went out and took SPECint2000, knowing there is already SPECint2006 and they did that only because it advantaged their platform vs. ours.



http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=412

lol

CaptRobert April
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n°1588489
04-02-2007 at 07:30:44 PM

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None of the benchmarks today that have been published have been on Vista.



http://www.techreport.com/reviews/ [...] dex.x?pg=1
http://www.hwupgrade.com/articles/ [...] index.html