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I have the Audiovox XV6600 Pocket PC and Phone running Windows Mobile 2003
Second Edition.
The schools I teach for all require Internet Explorer with multiple frames
on each page and menus of tree lists of threaded discussions.

I cannot open those tree lists on my Pocket PC. The Internet Explorer has
all kinds of add-ons now, trying to make this work - RegKing, IBM Websphere,
ewe VM, Cr Eme java, and the newest - MultiIE. Nothing works! Any ideas?

Dave

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David Bail wrote:
[...]
> I cannot open those tree lists on my Pocket PC. The Internet Explorer
> has all kinds of add-ons now, trying to make this work - RegKing, IBM
> Websphere, ewe VM, Cr Eme java, and the newest - MultiIE. Nothing
> works! Any ideas?
> Dave

Try NetFront (http://nfppc.access.co.jp/english/). I obviously don't know
how your tree lists are implemented, but NetFront covers a lot more of the
bases than IE, 3.2 even supports Flash.

Tony

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I had tried NetFront and even ThunderHawk II, but neither worked. Since
then, I have also downloaded SuperWaba but to no avail.

I found a web site that seems to relate to what I need to do, but it is on
the developer side:

http://www.jpowered.com/tree/index.htm#morefeatures

I wonder if Microsoft knows about this? And if so, what to do/what will be
done?
"Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
news:enive.5125$11.1670@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> David Bail wrote:
> [...]
>> I cannot open those tree lists on my Pocket PC. The Internet Explorer
>> has all kinds of add-ons now, trying to make this work - RegKing, IBM
>> Websphere, ewe VM, Cr Eme java, and the newest - MultiIE. Nothing
>> works! Any ideas?
>> Dave
>
> Try NetFront (http://nfppc.access.co.jp/english/). I obviously don't know
> how your tree lists are implemented, but NetFront covers a lot more of the
> bases than IE, 3.2 even supports Flash.
>
> Tony
>

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David, please feel free to shoot me down if I'm being condescending, but I
want to question a couple of basics, because it sounds to me like you're
100% clued up in this area. The reason I say that is that as far as I can
tell, you're looking for Java applet support in your web browser, but most
of the things you say you've downloaded won't help you with that because
they don't integrate with the browser. SuperWaba isn't really Java at all,
it's programming syntax is Java, but Java apps won't execute on the
SuperWaba runtime or vice versa, same goes for Ewe.

This makes me question whether
a) you're absolutely sure that Java is the problem with the sites you're
trying to use. It'd help if you gave an example, unless they're on a private
network.

b) you're sure you had the Java-enabled version of NetFront when you tried
it, and that you had the Java plugin turned on (it's disabled by default).

NetFront runs the majority of applets I come across (I'm looking at the
demos of that jpowered.com treeview applet you linked to right now for
example, works fine), so if I were you I'd post an example or two of the
sites you're having trouble with, someone will soon tell you whether you
have any chance of running them on a PPC or not, and/or reinstall NetFront
and double check that you have the settings right.

Tony

David Bail wrote:
> I had tried NetFront and even ThunderHawk II, but neither worked.
> Since then, I have also downloaded SuperWaba but to no avail.
>
> I found a web site that seems to relate to what I need to do, but it
> is on the developer side:
>

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Tony, thanks so much for your speedy reply! (I did forget to mention that I
have also downloaded Sun's J9 java). The two sites I'm having the problem
with are both universities where I teach online, and unfortunately are
password protected.

The first is www.capella.edu, which uses WebCT as its platform and requires
only IE 5.5 or better along with jre 1.4.7 or better.

The second is www.westwoodonline.edu which uses IE but will accept Opera,
Mozilla, or Firefox, but not NetFront.

Each of these sites is rich with tree list menus that open either lists of
posted items (links) or that open new windows with threaded discussion
groups. I have just implemented MultiIE's show java error options, and on
the westwoodonline site (the Capella site won't even load the front screen),
here are the errors I get:

1. As the mentoring (new employee) course homepage
(http://westwood.ecollege.com )loads,

the first Jscript runtime error is Microsoft JScript runtime error Line: 1
Character: 11 Error: Object doesn't support this property or method Source:
(null), but after clicking OK the page finishes loading apparently
successfully.

Since this page is full of frames, I then go to just one of the frames, this
one being the main course navigation page with a menu list of button icons
each labeled with a week number. As this frame opens, the message is
Microsoft JScript runtime error Line:4 Character: 0 Error: 'top.Content' is
null or not an object Source: (null)

Then, clicking on one of the week icons, the next message is: Microsoft
JScript runtime error Line: 47 Error: 'document.body.scrollTop' is null or
not an object Source: (null). With MultiIE, if I ask it to open in a new
frame, the message is: The url is not properly formatted. Please verify that
you have entered the address correctly. When I hit OK, the whole IE program
bombs. the url in that second window had been http://javascript:%20void%20.

I seem to recall reading somewhere (About.com About Web Development) about
Microsoft purposefully shipping Windows Mobile 2003SE without full java so
as to have a smaller "footprint." But this isn't functional! There must be a
solution - I hope! I've been at this for about a month. I bought this Pocket
PC (Audiovox XV6600) so I could travel without the laptop and still teach
classes.

Thanks so much for your help!

Dave

"Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
newsa1we.14013$BD2.5982@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> David, please feel free to shoot me down if I'm being condescending, but I
> want to question a couple of basics, because it sounds to me like you're
> 100% clued up in this area. The reason I say that is that as far as I can
> tell, you're looking for Java applet support in your web browser, but most
> of the things you say you've downloaded won't help you with that because
> they don't integrate with the browser. SuperWaba isn't really Java at all,
> it's programming syntax is Java, but Java apps won't execute on the
> SuperWaba runtime or vice versa, same goes for Ewe.
>
> This makes me question whether
> a) you're absolutely sure that Java is the problem with the sites you're
> trying to use. It'd help if you gave an example, unless they're on a
> private network.
>
> b) you're sure you had the Java-enabled version of NetFront when you tried
> it, and that you had the Java plugin turned on (it's disabled by default).
>
> NetFront runs the majority of applets I come across (I'm looking at the
> demos of that jpowered.com treeview applet you linked to right now for
> example, works fine), so if I were you I'd post an example or two of the
> sites you're having trouble with, someone will soon tell you whether you
> have any chance of running them on a PPC or not, and/or reinstall NetFront
> and double check that you have the settings right.
>
> Tony
>
> David Bail wrote:
>> I had tried NetFront and even ThunderHawk II, but neither worked.
>> Since then, I have also downloaded SuperWaba but to no avail.
>>
>> I found a web site that seems to relate to what I need to do, but it
>> is on the developer side:
>>
>
>

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Unfortunately sites that make heavy use of scripting and dhtml, sometimes do
have problems with even the best current PPC browsers, from the errors
you're listing it sounds the sites you're interested in are in that
category. Unfortunately it's not something that can be fixed with add-ons,
it's down to fairly fundamental differences in the implementations of
various "standards". Such differences exist between the major desktop
browsers too, it's just that web developers (usually) take those differences
into account, unfortunately there just aren't enough PPC users for them to
be similarly friendly to PPC browsers.

Your best hope is that a better browser becomes available in the near
future - the Mozilla people are working on a PPC version of the Mozilla
browser called Minimo, which isn't in a useable state yet, but it may be in
a few months, and looks promising.

Right now, if you can't make NetFront work, nothing else will. Pocket IE
does not, and can't be made to, support Java or Flash, and only supports a
subset of JavaScript, while NetFront supports Java, JavaScript and Flash
(from version 3.2). You can try setting the user-agent string in NetFront to
masquerade as IE6 or Netscape, you can get some troublesome sites to work
that way. Other than that, you may be out of luck I'm afraid.

Tony

David Bail wrote:
> Tony, thanks so much for your speedy reply! (I did forget to mention
> that I have also downloaded Sun's J9 java). The two sites I'm having
> the problem with are both universities where I teach online, and
> unfortunately are password protected.
>
> The first is www.capella.edu, which uses WebCT as its platform and
> requires only IE 5.5 or better along with jre 1.4.7 or better.
>
> The second is www.westwoodonline.edu which uses IE but will accept
> Opera, Mozilla, or Firefox, but not NetFront.
>
> Each of these sites is rich with tree list menus that open either
> lists of posted items (links) or that open new windows with threaded
> discussion groups. I have just implemented MultiIE's show java error
> options, and on the westwoodonline site (the Capella site won't even
> load the front screen), here are the errors I get:
>
> 1. As the mentoring (new employee) course homepage
> (http://westwood.ecollege.com )loads,
>
> the first Jscript runtime error is Microsoft JScript runtime error
> Line: 1 Character: 11 Error: Object doesn't support this property or
> method Source: (null), but after clicking OK the page finishes
> loading apparently successfully.
>
> Since this page is full of frames, I then go to just one of the
> frames, this one being the main course navigation page with a menu
> list of button icons each labeled with a week number. As this frame
> opens, the message is Microsoft JScript runtime error Line:4
> Character: 0 Error: 'top.Content' is null or not an object Source:
> (null)
> Then, clicking on one of the week icons, the next message is:
> Microsoft JScript runtime error Line: 47 Error:
> 'document.body.scrollTop' is null or not an object Source: (null).
> With MultiIE, if I ask it to open in a new frame, the message is: The
> url is not properly formatted. Please verify that you have entered
> the address correctly. When I hit OK, the whole IE program bombs. the
> url in that second window had been http://javascript:%20void%20.
> I seem to recall reading somewhere (About.com About Web Development)
> about Microsoft purposefully shipping Windows Mobile 2003SE without
> full java so as to have a smaller "footprint." But this isn't
> functional! There must be a solution - I hope! I've been at this for
> about a month. I bought this Pocket PC (Audiovox XV6600) so I could
> travel without the laptop and still teach classes.
>
> Thanks so much for your help!
>
> Dave
>
> "Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
> newsa1we.14013$BD2.5982@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>> David, please feel free to shoot me down if I'm being condescending,
>> but I want to question a couple of basics, because it sounds to me
>> like you're 100% clued up in this area. The reason I say that is
>> that as far as I can tell, you're looking for Java applet support in
>> your web browser, but most of the things you say you've downloaded
>> won't help you with that because they don't integrate with the
>> browser. SuperWaba isn't really Java at all, it's programming syntax
>> is Java, but Java apps won't execute on the SuperWaba runtime or
>> vice versa, same goes for Ewe. This makes me question whether
>> a) you're absolutely sure that Java is the problem with the sites
>> you're trying to use. It'd help if you gave an example, unless
>> they're on a private network.
>>
>> b) you're sure you had the Java-enabled version of NetFront when you
>> tried it, and that you had the Java plugin turned on (it's disabled
>> by default). NetFront runs the majority of applets I come across (I'm
>> looking at
>> the demos of that jpowered.com treeview applet you linked to right
>> now for example, works fine), so if I were you I'd post an example
>> or two of the sites you're having trouble with, someone will soon
>> tell you whether you have any chance of running them on a PPC or
>> not, and/or reinstall NetFront and double check that you have the
>> settings right. Tony
>>
>> David Bail wrote:
>>> I had tried NetFront and even ThunderHawk II, but neither worked.
>>> Since then, I have also downloaded SuperWaba but to no avail.
>>>
>>> I found a web site that seems to relate to what I need to do, but it
>>> is on the developer side:

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Tony, thanks so much for the info!

Can you tell me how to do this?
"You can try setting the user-agent string in NetFront to masquerade as IE6
or Netscape, you can get some troublesome sites to work that way."

Dave


"Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
news:4yiwe.10062$iT1.9775@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> Unfortunately sites that make heavy use of scripting and dhtml, sometimes
> do have problems with even the best current PPC browsers, from the errors
> you're listing it sounds the sites you're interested in are in that
> category. Unfortunately it's not something that can be fixed with add-ons,
> it's down to fairly fundamental differences in the implementations of
> various "standards". Such differences exist between the major desktop
> browsers too, it's just that web developers (usually) take those
> differences into account, unfortunately there just aren't enough PPC users
> for them to be similarly friendly to PPC browsers.
>
> Your best hope is that a better browser becomes available in the near
> future - the Mozilla people are working on a PPC version of the Mozilla
> browser called Minimo, which isn't in a useable state yet, but it may be
> in a few months, and looks promising.
>
> Right now, if you can't make NetFront work, nothing else will. Pocket IE
> does not, and can't be made to, support Java or Flash, and only supports a
> subset of JavaScript, while NetFront supports Java, JavaScript and Flash
> (from version 3.2). You can try setting the user-agent string in NetFront
> to masquerade as IE6 or Netscape, you can get some troublesome sites to
> work that way. Other than that, you may be out of luck I'm afraid.
>
> Tony
>
> David Bail wrote:
>> Tony, thanks so much for your speedy reply! (I did forget to mention
>> that I have also downloaded Sun's J9 java). The two sites I'm having
>> the problem with are both universities where I teach online, and
>> unfortunately are password protected.
>>
>> The first is www.capella.edu, which uses WebCT as its platform and
>> requires only IE 5.5 or better along with jre 1.4.7 or better.
>>
>> The second is www.westwoodonline.edu which uses IE but will accept
>> Opera, Mozilla, or Firefox, but not NetFront.
>>
>> Each of these sites is rich with tree list menus that open either
>> lists of posted items (links) or that open new windows with threaded
>> discussion groups. I have just implemented MultiIE's show java error
>> options, and on the westwoodonline site (the Capella site won't even
>> load the front screen), here are the errors I get:
>>
>> 1. As the mentoring (new employee) course homepage
>> (http://westwood.ecollege.com )loads,
>>
>> the first Jscript runtime error is Microsoft JScript runtime error
>> Line: 1 Character: 11 Error: Object doesn't support this property or
>> method Source: (null), but after clicking OK the page finishes
>> loading apparently successfully.
>>
>> Since this page is full of frames, I then go to just one of the
>> frames, this one being the main course navigation page with a menu
>> list of button icons each labeled with a week number. As this frame
>> opens, the message is Microsoft JScript runtime error Line:4
>> Character: 0 Error: 'top.Content' is null or not an object Source:
>> (null)
>> Then, clicking on one of the week icons, the next message is:
>> Microsoft JScript runtime error Line: 47 Error:
>> 'document.body.scrollTop' is null or not an object Source: (null).
>> With MultiIE, if I ask it to open in a new frame, the message is: The
>> url is not properly formatted. Please verify that you have entered
>> the address correctly. When I hit OK, the whole IE program bombs. the
>> url in that second window had been http://javascript:%20void%20.
>> I seem to recall reading somewhere (About.com About Web Development)
>> about Microsoft purposefully shipping Windows Mobile 2003SE without
>> full java so as to have a smaller "footprint." But this isn't
>> functional! There must be a solution - I hope! I've been at this for
>> about a month. I bought this Pocket PC (Audiovox XV6600) so I could
>> travel without the laptop and still teach classes.
>>
>> Thanks so much for your help!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> "Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
>> newsa1we.14013$BD2.5982@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>> David, please feel free to shoot me down if I'm being condescending,
>>> but I want to question a couple of basics, because it sounds to me
>>> like you're 100% clued up in this area. The reason I say that is
>>> that as far as I can tell, you're looking for Java applet support in
>>> your web browser, but most of the things you say you've downloaded
>>> won't help you with that because they don't integrate with the
>>> browser. SuperWaba isn't really Java at all, it's programming syntax
>>> is Java, but Java apps won't execute on the SuperWaba runtime or
>>> vice versa, same goes for Ewe. This makes me question whether
>>> a) you're absolutely sure that Java is the problem with the sites
>>> you're trying to use. It'd help if you gave an example, unless
>>> they're on a private network.
>>>
>>> b) you're sure you had the Java-enabled version of NetFront when you
>>> tried it, and that you had the Java plugin turned on (it's disabled
>>> by default). NetFront runs the majority of applets I come across (I'm
>>> looking at
>>> the demos of that jpowered.com treeview applet you linked to right
>>> now for example, works fine), so if I were you I'd post an example
>>> or two of the sites you're having trouble with, someone will soon
>>> tell you whether you have any chance of running them on a PPC or
>>> not, and/or reinstall NetFront and double check that you have the
>>> settings right. Tony
>>>
>>> David Bail wrote:
>>>> I had tried NetFront and even ThunderHawk II, but neither worked.
>>>> Since then, I have also downloaded SuperWaba but to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> I found a web site that seems to relate to what I need to do, but it
>>>> is on the developer side:
>
>
>

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Sure. In NetFront, go to Tools->Browser Settings, and click the "Misc" tab,
at the bottom of that page is a "UserAgent" box, which should have "NetFront
3.1 Standard" selected by default. Once you've set up a couple of alternate
UserAgent entries, you just select the one you want to use from that drop
down list.

To set up an alternate user-agent entry, select one of the blank "---"
entries below the "NetFront 3.1 Standard" entry in the drop-down UserAgent
list, then click Edit, that takes you to a screen where you enter an
alternate set of browser info. The values I use for my IE6 and Netscape 4.8
entries respectively are below ("Title" is what will show in the drop-down
list).
_________________________________________________
Title: Internet Explorer 6 (XP)
UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
App Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer
App Version: 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
AppCodeName: Mozilla
Lang: en
Platform: Win32
_________________________________________________
Title: Netscape 4.8 (XP)
UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
App Name: Netscape
App Version: 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
AppCodeName: Mozilla
Lang: en
Platform: Win32
_________________________________________________

Tony

David Bail wrote:
> Tony, thanks so much for the info!
>
> Can you tell me how to do this?
> "You can try setting the user-agent string in NetFront to masquerade
> as IE6 or Netscape, you can get some troublesome sites to work that
> way."
> Dave

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Tony, thanks a million! I purchased and downloaded NetFront 3.2 with the
javascript and DOM included, and then I set the UserAgent settings as you
described.

This worked!!!!! At least it did for Westwoodonline.edu that uses eCollege
as its platform. Still no luck with Capella.edu that uses WebCT for its
platform. But thanks to you, I'm halfway home!

Dave
"Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
news:mxxwe.7968$5D4.4922@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> Sure. In NetFront, go to Tools->Browser Settings, and click the "Misc"
> tab, at the bottom of that page is a "UserAgent" box, which should have
> "NetFront 3.1 Standard" selected by default. Once you've set up a couple
> of alternate UserAgent entries, you just select the one you want to use
> from that drop down list.
>
> To set up an alternate user-agent entry, select one of the blank "---"
> entries below the "NetFront 3.1 Standard" entry in the drop-down UserAgent
> list, then click Edit, that takes you to a screen where you enter an
> alternate set of browser info. The values I use for my IE6 and Netscape
> 4.8 entries respectively are below ("Title" is what will show in the
> drop-down list).
> _________________________________________________
> Title: Internet Explorer 6 (XP)
> UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
> App Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer
> App Version: 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
> AppCodeName: Mozilla
> Lang: en
> Platform: Win32
> _________________________________________________
> Title: Netscape 4.8 (XP)
> UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
> App Name: Netscape
> App Version: 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
> AppCodeName: Mozilla
> Lang: en
> Platform: Win32
> _________________________________________________
>
> Tony
>
> David Bail wrote:
>> Tony, thanks so much for the info!
>>
>> Can you tell me how to do this?
>> "You can try setting the user-agent string in NetFront to masquerade
>> as IE6 or Netscape, you can get some troublesome sites to work that
>> way."
>> Dave
>
>

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This is the reply I got from Capella. Seems like they need to hear about the
growing handheld market!

"Thank you for contacting Capella IT. I understand that you recently
purchased an Audiovox Pocket PC. I also understand that you would like us
to expand our browser tags to accept NetFront 3.2. Unfortunately since we
have not tested any moble devices for the courseroom, nor has our web
development team expanded support for Pocket PC's and mobile devices. We do
not offer support for those devices at this time, nor can we offer any
suggestions on how to configure those devices for the courseroom website.
Thank you for your inquiry.

Best Regards
Capella University"

"David Bail" <dbail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:utfHTHPfFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Tony, thanks a million! I purchased and downloaded NetFront 3.2 with the
> javascript and DOM included, and then I set the UserAgent settings as you
> described.
>
> This worked!!!!! At least it did for Westwoodonline.edu that uses eCollege
> as its platform. Still no luck with Capella.edu that uses WebCT for its
> platform. But thanks to you, I'm halfway home!
>
> Dave
> "Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
> news:mxxwe.7968$5D4.4922@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>> Sure. In NetFront, go to Tools->Browser Settings, and click the "Misc"
>> tab, at the bottom of that page is a "UserAgent" box, which should have
>> "NetFront 3.1 Standard" selected by default. Once you've set up a couple
>> of alternate UserAgent entries, you just select the one you want to use
>> from that drop down list.
>>
>> To set up an alternate user-agent entry, select one of the blank "---"
>> entries below the "NetFront 3.1 Standard" entry in the drop-down
>> UserAgent list, then click Edit, that takes you to a screen where you
>> enter an alternate set of browser info. The values I use for my IE6 and
>> Netscape 4.8 entries respectively are below ("Title" is what will show in
>> the drop-down list).
>> _________________________________________________
>> Title: Internet Explorer 6 (XP)
>> UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
>> App Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer
>> App Version: 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
>> AppCodeName: Mozilla
>> Lang: en
>> Platform: Win32
>> _________________________________________________
>> Title: Netscape 4.8 (XP)
>> UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
>> App Name: Netscape
>> App Version: 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
>> AppCodeName: Mozilla
>> Lang: en
>> Platform: Win32
>> _________________________________________________
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> David Bail wrote:
>>> Tony, thanks so much for the info!
>>>
>>> Can you tell me how to do this?
>>> "You can try setting the user-agent string in NetFront to masquerade
>>> as IE6 or Netscape, you can get some troublesome sites to work that
>>> way."
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>
>

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Glad to hear you got one of your sites to work at least. As far as the other
one, I'd put more hope on a more compatible mobile browser coming out than
on web developers supporting the existing ones - it's hard enough to get the
lazy buggers to make their sites Firefox compatible, and Firefox has a
decent percentage of the desktop browser market, but you never know.

Tony

David Bail wrote:
> This is the reply I got from Capella. Seems like they need to hear
> about the growing handheld market!
>
> "Thank you for contacting Capella IT. I understand that you recently
> purchased an Audiovox Pocket PC. I also understand that you would
> like us to expand our browser tags to accept NetFront 3.2. Unfortunately
> since we have not tested any moble devices for the
> courseroom, nor has our web development team expanded support for
> Pocket PC's and mobile devices. We do not offer support for those
> devices at this time, nor can we offer any suggestions on how to
> configure those devices for the courseroom website. Thank you for
> your inquiry.
> Best Regards
> Capella University"
>
> "David Bail" <dbail@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:utfHTHPfFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Tony, thanks a million! I purchased and downloaded NetFront 3.2 with
>> the javascript and DOM included, and then I set the UserAgent
>> settings as you described.
>>
>> This worked!!!!! At least it did for Westwoodonline.edu that uses
>> eCollege as its platform. Still no luck with Capella.edu that uses
>> WebCT for its platform. But thanks to you, I'm halfway home!
>>
>> Dave
>> "Tony A." <what@where.why.com> wrote in message
>> news:mxxwe.7968$5D4.4922@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>> Sure. In NetFront, go to Tools->Browser Settings, and click the
>>> "Misc" tab, at the bottom of that page is a "UserAgent" box, which
>>> should have "NetFront 3.1 Standard" selected by default. Once
>>> you've set up a couple of alternate UserAgent entries, you just
>>> select the one you want to use from that drop down list.
>>>
>>> To set up an alternate user-agent entry, select one of the blank
>>> "---" entries below the "NetFront 3.1 Standard" entry in the
>>> drop-down UserAgent list, then click Edit, that takes you to a
>>> screen where you enter an alternate set of browser info. The values
>>> I use for my IE6 and Netscape 4.8 entries respectively are below
>>> ("Title" is what will show in the drop-down list).
>>> _________________________________________________
>>> Title: Internet Explorer 6 (XP)
>>> UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
>>> App Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer
>>> App Version: 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
>>> AppCodeName: Mozilla
>>> Lang: en
>>> Platform: Win32
>>> _________________________________________________
>>> Title: Netscape 4.8 (XP)
>>> UserAgent: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
>>> App Name: Netscape
>>> App Version: 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.1; U)
>>> AppCodeName: Mozilla
>>> Lang: en
>>> Platform: Win32
>>> _________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> David Bail wrote:
>>>> Tony, thanks so much for the info!
>>>>
>>>> Can you tell me how to do this?
>>>> "You can try setting the user-agent string in NetFront to
>>>> masquerade as IE6 or Netscape, you can get some troublesome sites
>>>> to work that way."
>>>> Dave