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When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to hard
reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit of software.

Marc

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Marc wrote:
> When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to hard
> reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit of
> software.
> Marc

Hi Marc,

How do you know it was Pocket Mechanic that hard reset your PPC?

Did it flash up a warning saying it was about to do it?

Thanks

Martin

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"Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
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| Marc wrote:
| > When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to hard
| > reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit of
| > software.
| > Marc
|

| How do you know it was Pocket Mechanic that hard reset your PPC?
| Did it flash up a warning saying it was about to do it?
|

It has been documented in this group before that yes, Pocket Mechanic can
and will cause your device to Hard re-set. this is the first time I've
heard of it after the "trial" expired. Generally it is caused by code
written in by the author that causes your device to hard-reset if using a
pirated serial number.

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"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
> news:425abd54$0$63423$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> | Marc wrote:
> | > When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to hard
> | > reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit of
> | > software.
> | > Marc
> |
>
> | How do you know it was Pocket Mechanic that hard reset your PPC?
> | Did it flash up a warning saying it was about to do it?
> |
>
> It has been documented in this group before that yes, Pocket Mechanic can
> and will cause your device to Hard re-set. this is the first time I've
> heard of it after the "trial" expired. Generally it is caused by code
> written in by the author that causes your device to hard-reset if using a
> pirated serial number.
>

If that is true, then I think it ia illegal. As far as I am aware it is
illegal to knowingly cause damage to any persons computer, and this would
include writing a program that does it.

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Triker wrote:
> "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ec9MeUtPFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
> > news:425abd54$0$63423$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> > | Marc wrote:
> > | > When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided
to hard
> > | > reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit
of
> > | > software.
> > | > Marc
> > |
> >
> > | How do you know it was Pocket Mechanic that hard reset your PPC?
> > | Did it flash up a warning saying it was about to do it?
> > |
> >
> > It has been documented in this group before that yes, Pocket
Mechanic can
> > and will cause your device to Hard re-set. this is the first time
I've
> > heard of it after the "trial" expired. Generally it is caused by
code
> > written in by the author that causes your device to hard-reset if
using a
> > pirated serial number.
> >
>
> If that is true, then I think it ia illegal. As far as I am aware it
is
> illegal to knowingly cause damage to any persons computer, and this
would
> include writing a program that does it.

Not illegal, but downright unfriendly-like. It would be a case for the
civil courts; it's not illegal to put in devices (code) to prevent or
punish illicit use of your product (program). I would surmise that
anyone damaged in this way would have to explain the pirated software
to the judge, first.....

Of course, the OP's stating that once the trial expired, no illegal
serial number, his device lost data. That's either bad programming or a
bad choice on the part of the developer; no-one will touch software
that punishes you for not buying it, and the civil penalties for such
behavior could be substantial.

ECM

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"ecm" <thedeepabyss@whoever.com> wrote in news:1113256922.110469.123360
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Not illegal, but downright unfriendly-like. It would be a case for the
> civil courts; it's not illegal to put in devices (code) to prevent or
> punish illicit use of your product (program). I would surmise that
> anyone damaged in this way would have to explain the pirated software
> to the judge, first.....
>
> Of course, the OP's stating that once the trial expired, no illegal
> serial number, his device lost data. That's either bad programming or a
> bad choice on the part of the developer; no-one will touch software
> that punishes you for not buying it, and the civil penalties for such
> behavior could be substantial.
>
> ECM
>
>

If Omegaone hasn't backed off on this, they deserve what they get.
Wouldn't they deserve it if people started taking them to small claims?

Scott

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"Marc" <see@signature.url> wrote in message
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| When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to
hard
| reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit of
software.
|
| Marc

It's been covered in the newsgroup in the past, searching the archives
for info could have saved you some grief.

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ecm wrote:
> Not illegal, but downright unfriendly-like. It would be a case for the
> civil courts; it's not illegal to put in devices (code) to prevent or
> punish illicit use of your product (program).

If I remember correctly, it is still illegal to cause damage to other
people's and companíes' computers and has been since 1998. IA of course
NAL.

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"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
> news:425abd54$0$63423$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> | Marc wrote:
> | > When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to hard
> | > reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit of
> | > software.
> | > Marc
> |
>
> | How do you know it was Pocket Mechanic that hard reset your PPC?
> | Did it flash up a warning saying it was about to do it?
> |
>
> It has been documented in this group before

(reference)

http://tinyurl.com/6g7nb


> that yes, Pocket Mechanic can
> and will cause your device to Hard re-set. this is the first time I've
> heard of it after the "trial" expired. Generally it is caused by code
> written in by the author that causes your device to hard-reset if using a
> pirated serial number.
>
>
>

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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:40:38 +0100, "alan smith"
<alan@REMOVEmral.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Marc" <see@signature.url> wrote in message
>news:1113237434.39844.0@doris.uk.clara.net...
>| When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to
>hard
>| reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit of
>software.
>|
>| Marc
>
>It's been covered in the newsgroup in the past, searching the archives
>for info could have saved you some grief.

I'm not sure that's fair comment. Most people wouldn't necessarily
search archives for problems with a program before using a trial
unless they'd already seen something to alert them to a ajor issue.

And certainly they'd be unlikely to search for 'program causes hard
reset' or similar.

Alan - is this routinely your practice when trying a program ?

Cheers - Neil

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KDE wrote:
> It has been documented in this group before that yes, Pocket Mechanic can
> and will cause your device to Hard re-set. this is the first time I've
> heard of it after the "trial" expired. Generally it is caused by code
> written in by the author that causes your device to hard-reset if using a
> pirated serial number.

I got mine stright off a web site(!) I think it was PocketGear of one of
those listing sites.
It was a weeks out of its trial, I hadn't used it in ages. I assume it
was Pocket Mechanic anyway, since it happend when I clicked "OK" to the
message box, and my PPC has never ever hard reset its self in the year
I've had it.

--
Marc
See http://www.imarc.co.uk/ for contact details.

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KDE wrote:
> "Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
> news:425abd54$0$63423$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> Marc wrote:
>>> When my trial version of "Pocket Mechanic" expired, it decided to
>>> hard reset my PocketPC. So I would recommend against using this bit
>>> of software.
>>> Marc
>>
>
>> How do you know it was Pocket Mechanic that hard reset your PPC?
>> Did it flash up a warning saying it was about to do it?
>>
>
> It has been documented in this group before that yes, Pocket Mechanic
> can and will cause your device to Hard re-set. this is the first
> time I've heard of it after the "trial" expired. Generally it is
> caused by code written in by the author that causes your device to
> hard-reset if using a pirated serial number.

Yes, I'm well aware of that. But the OPs problem is different to the one you
refer to.