Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Hi,

I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW drive.
The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave, respectively, on my 2nd
IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only detects the DVD drive, and can't see
the CDRW drive at all. Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear in Device
Manager.

For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can use the
CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is ok, but I was
wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I might get both drives to
work without the extra controller card?

I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and rebooting, but
that didn't change anything. I've also tried adding the "cdgone"
registry edits, but that didn't fix it either.

I'd appreciate any suggestions!

Thanks,
Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Hi Jim - See here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008 It may not
sound like it applies but take the steps outlined there to delete the Upper
and Lower Filters.

You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes care of
deleting some other things which can cause problems as well):
http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup first so that
you can recover if there are problems (there aren't usually, BTW).

It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when this occurs
to recreate the correct entries, here:
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe Instructions
here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
> Hi,
>
> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW drive.
> The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave, respectively, on my
> 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only detects the DVD drive, and
> can't see the CDRW drive at all. Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear
> in Device Manager.
>
> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can use
> the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is ok, but
> I was wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I might get both
> drives to work without the extra controller card?
>
> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and rebooting, but
> that didn't change anything. I've also tried adding the "cdgone"
> registry edits, but that didn't fix it either.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Jim (Byrd),

Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already tried
the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.

Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I noticed
that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with Upper and Lower
Filter already?

Jim



Jim Byrd wrote:
>
> Hi Jim - See here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008 It may not
> sound like it applies but take the steps outlined there to delete the Upper
> and Lower Filters.
>
> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes care of
> deleting some other things which can cause problems as well):
> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup first so that
> you can recover if there are problems (there aren't usually, BTW).
>
> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when this occurs
> to recreate the correct entries, here:
> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe Instructions
> here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW drive.
> > The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave, respectively, on my
> > 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only detects the DVD drive, and
> > can't see the CDRW drive at all. Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear
> > in Device Manager.
> >
> > For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can use
> > the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is ok, but
> > I was wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I might get both
> > drives to work without the extra controller card?
> >
> > I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and rebooting, but
> > that didn't change anything. I've also tried adding the "cdgone"
> > registry edits, but that didn't fix it either.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any suggestions!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional things
besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest running both it
and the FilterFixer package, link to directions here:
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt, direct download
here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe, in order,
maybe?

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F92748.286AEC2E@cox.net
> Jim (Byrd),
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
> tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
>
> Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I noticed
> that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with Upper and
> Lower Filter already?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim - See here:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008 It
>> may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined there to
>> delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
>>
>> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
>> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as well):
>> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
>> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup first
>> so that you can recover if there are problems (there aren't usually,
>> BTW).
>>
>> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
>> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe
>> Instructions here:
>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>
>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW drive.
>>> The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave, respectively, on my
>>> 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only detects the DVD drive, and
>>> can't see the CDRW drive at all. Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear
>>> in Device Manager.
>>>
>>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can use
>>> the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is ok, but
>>> I was wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I might get both
>>> drives to work without the extra controller card?
>>>
>>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and rebooting,
>>> but that didn't change anything. I've also tried adding the
>>> "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't fix it either.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Jim,

Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open the
machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).

Jim



Jim Byrd wrote:
>
> Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional things
> besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest running both it
> and the FilterFixer package, link to directions here:
> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt, direct download
> here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe, in order,
> maybe?
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F92748.286AEC2E@cox.net
> > Jim (Byrd),
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
> > tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
> >
> > Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I noticed
> > that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with Upper and
> > Lower Filter already?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim - See here:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008 It
> >> may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined there to
> >> delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
> >>
> >> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
> >> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as well):
> >> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
> >> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup first
> >> so that you can recover if there are problems (there aren't usually,
> >> BTW).
> >>
> >> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
> >> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
> >> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe
> >> Instructions here:
> >> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW drive.
> >>> The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave, respectively, on my
> >>> 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only detects the DVD drive, and
> >>> can't see the CDRW drive at all. Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear
> >>> in Device Manager.
> >>>
> >>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can use
> >>> the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is ok, but
> >>> I was wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I might get both
> >>> drives to work without the extra controller card?
> >>>
> >>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and rebooting,
> >>> but that didn't change anything. I've also tried adding the
> >>> "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't fix it either.
> >>>
> >>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Jim,

Aargh! I ran FilterFixer, and restarted the system, but still can only
see the DVD drive in Windows. The funny thing is that when I was
testing, I booted into Safemode, and I could see both the DVD and CDRW
then???

Jim


ohaya wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open the
> machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
> > http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional things
> > besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest running both it
> > and the FilterFixer package, link to directions here:
> > ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt, direct download
> > here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe, in order,
> > maybe?
> >
> > --
> > Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> > My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >
> > "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F92748.286AEC2E@cox.net
> > > Jim (Byrd),
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
> > > tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
> > >
> > > Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I noticed
> > > that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with Upper and
> > > Lower Filter already?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Byrd wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Jim - See here:
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008 It
> > >> may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined there to
> > >> delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
> > >>
> > >> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
> > >> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as well):
> > >> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
> > >> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup first
> > >> so that you can recover if there are problems (there aren't usually,
> > >> BTW).
> > >>
> > >> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
> > >> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
> > >> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe
> > >> Instructions here:
> > >> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> > >> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> > >> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW drive.
> > >>> The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave, respectively, on my
> > >>> 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only detects the DVD drive, and
> > >>> can't see the CDRW drive at all. Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear
> > >>> in Device Manager.
> > >>>
> > >>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can use
> > >>> the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is ok, but
> > >>> I was wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I might get both
> > >>> drives to work without the extra controller card?
> > >>>
> > >>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and rebooting,
> > >>> but that didn't change anything. I've also tried adding the
> > >>> "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't fix it either.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Hi Jim - I think we need to step back a little here. IIUY correctly, you
currently have the DVD installed as master and the RW as slave on the
secondary IDE channel (when the RW's not on your added IDE controller card).
Is that correct?

If so, since it's the RW that won't enumerate, then I would like to check
the jumpering and the cabling. There are three possible situations to which
a drive can be set: Master, Slave, or Cable Select. This is usually
accomplished by either microswitches or, more often, by setting a jumper on
the drive. Note that on normal IDE cabling, the Master device goes on the
first (middle of the cable) connector closest to the motherboard, while the
Slave goes on the end connector.

Please check that they are both cabled AND jumpered this way - DVD on the
Master connector, and RW on the Slave connector - and that both devices are
properly jumpered - DVD as Master and RW as Slave or Cable Select.
(Alternatively, you might want to try reversing them and jumper the RW as
the Master on the Master connector and the DVD as the Slave on the end
connector unless your installation directions specify that the DVD has to be
a Master. Many motherboards will only boot from a CD if it's the master
device on the secondary channel, and it's often useful to be able to boot
from the same drive where you created a CD for reasons I won't go into
here.) In either case, let's be sure that things are set up correctly
physically and eliminate that as a problem.

What devices do you currently have installed on the Primary IDE channel,
BTW? Two HD's?

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F96A32.1A4A6274@cox.net
> Jim,
>
> Aargh! I ran FilterFixer, and restarted the system, but still can
> only see the DVD drive in Windows. The funny thing is that when I was
> testing, I booted into Safemode, and I could see both the DVD and CDRW
> then???
>
> Jim
>
>
> ohaya wrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open the
>> machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
>>> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional
>>> things besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest
>>> running both it and the FilterFixer package, link to directions
>>> here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt,
>>> direct download here:
>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe, in
>>> order, maybe?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:42F92748.286AEC2E@cox.net
>>>> Jim (Byrd),
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
>>>> tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
>>>>
>>>> Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I
>>>> noticed that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with
>>>> Upper and Lower Filter already?
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim - See here:
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008 It
>>>>> may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined there to
>>>>> delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
>>>>> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as
>>>>> well): http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
>>>>> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup
>>>>> first so that you can recover if there are problems (there aren't
>>>>> usually, BTW).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
>>>>> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe
>>>>> Instructions here:
>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW
>>>>>> drive. The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave,
>>>>>> respectively, on my 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only
>>>>>> detects the DVD drive, and can't see the CDRW drive at all.
>>>>>> Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear in Device Manager.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can
>>>>>> use the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is
>>>>>> ok, but I was wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I
>>>>>> might get both drives to work without the extra controller card?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and
>>>>>> rebooting, but that didn't change anything. I've also tried
>>>>>> adding the "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't fix it
>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Jim,

I originally had:

IDE0: Master: hard drive
IDE1: Master: DVD (cable select)
Slave: CDRW (cable select)

I have 80-wire cables on both IDE0 and IDE1.

I just tried switching so that I had:

IDE1: Master: CDRW (cable select)
Slave: DVD (cable select)

But Windows can still only see the DVD drive. In other words, it
doesn't matter whether the DVD is master or slave, Windows sees it, but
will not see the CDRW drive.

If I connect only the CDRW on IDE1, Windows sees it.

I haven't tried either the DVD or CDRW on IDE0 yet (the cable won't
reach).

Jim



Jim Byrd wrote:
>
> Hi Jim - I think we need to step back a little here. IIUY correctly, you
> currently have the DVD installed as master and the RW as slave on the
> secondary IDE channel (when the RW's not on your added IDE controller card).
> Is that correct?
>
> If so, since it's the RW that won't enumerate, then I would like to check
> the jumpering and the cabling. There are three possible situations to which
> a drive can be set: Master, Slave, or Cable Select. This is usually
> accomplished by either microswitches or, more often, by setting a jumper on
> the drive. Note that on normal IDE cabling, the Master device goes on the
> first (middle of the cable) connector closest to the motherboard, while the
> Slave goes on the end connector.
>
> Please check that they are both cabled AND jumpered this way - DVD on the
> Master connector, and RW on the Slave connector - and that both devices are
> properly jumpered - DVD as Master and RW as Slave or Cable Select.
> (Alternatively, you might want to try reversing them and jumper the RW as
> the Master on the Master connector and the DVD as the Slave on the end
> connector unless your installation directions specify that the DVD has to be
> a Master. Many motherboards will only boot from a CD if it's the master
> device on the secondary channel, and it's often useful to be able to boot
> from the same drive where you created a CD for reasons I won't go into
> here.) In either case, let's be sure that things are set up correctly
> physically and eliminate that as a problem.
>
> What devices do you currently have installed on the Primary IDE channel,
> BTW? Two HD's?
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F96A32.1A4A6274@cox.net
> > Jim,
> >
> > Aargh! I ran FilterFixer, and restarted the system, but still can
> > only see the DVD drive in Windows. The funny thing is that when I was
> > testing, I booted into Safemode, and I could see both the DVD and CDRW
> > then???
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > ohaya wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open the
> >> machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
> >>> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional
> >>> things besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest
> >>> running both it and the FilterFixer package, link to directions
> >>> here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt,
> >>> direct download here:
> >>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe, in
> >>> order, maybe?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:42F92748.286AEC2E@cox.net
> >>>> Jim (Byrd),
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
> >>>> tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I
> >>>> noticed that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with
> >>>> Upper and Lower Filter already?
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Jim - See here:
> >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008 It
> >>>>> may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined there to
> >>>>> delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
> >>>>> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as
> >>>>> well): http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
> >>>>> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup
> >>>>> first so that you can recover if there are problems (there aren't
> >>>>> usually, BTW).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
> >>>>> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
> >>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe
> >>>>> Instructions here:
> >>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@cox.net
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW
> >>>>>> drive. The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave,
> >>>>>> respectively, on my 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only
> >>>>>> detects the DVD drive, and can't see the CDRW drive at all.
> >>>>>> Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear in Device Manager.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I can
> >>>>>> use the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW drive is
> >>>>>> ok, but I was wondering if anyone might have an idea of how I
> >>>>>> might get both drives to work without the extra controller card?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and
> >>>>>> rebooting, but that didn't change anything. I've also tried
> >>>>>> adding the "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't fix it
> >>>>>> either.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Jim

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.general (More info?)

Jim, have you also tried it with the jumper settings on the drives set to
Master and/or Slave, as appropriate to their position on the cable, rather
than just Cable Select? Some drives won't handle Cable Select correctly
sometimes in my experience.

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:42F977F1.9B076238@cox.net
> Jim,
>
> I originally had:
>
> IDE0: Master: hard drive
> IDE1: Master: DVD (cable select)
> Slave: CDRW (cable select)
>
> I have 80-wire cables on both IDE0 and IDE1.
>
> I just tried switching so that I had:
>
> IDE1: Master: CDRW (cable select)
> Slave: DVD (cable select)
>
> But Windows can still only see the DVD drive. In other words, it
> doesn't matter whether the DVD is master or slave, Windows sees it,
> but will not see the CDRW drive.
>
> If I connect only the CDRW on IDE1, Windows sees it.
>
> I haven't tried either the DVD or CDRW on IDE0 yet (the cable won't
> reach).
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim - I think we need to step back a little here. IIUY
>> correctly, you currently have the DVD installed as master and the RW
>> as slave on the secondary IDE channel (when the RW's not on your
>> added IDE controller card). Is that correct?
>>
>> If so, since it's the RW that won't enumerate, then I would like to
>> check the jumpering and the cabling. There are three possible
>> situations to which a drive can be set: Master, Slave, or Cable
>> Select. This is usually accomplished by either microswitches or,
>> more often, by setting a jumper on the drive. Note that on normal
>> IDE cabling, the Master device goes on the first (middle of the
>> cable) connector closest to the motherboard, while the Slave goes on
>> the end connector.
>>
>> Please check that they are both cabled AND jumpered this way - DVD
>> on the Master connector, and RW on the Slave connector - and that
>> both devices are properly jumpered - DVD as Master and RW as Slave
>> or Cable Select. (Alternatively, you might want to try reversing
>> them and jumper the RW as the Master on the Master connector and the
>> DVD as the Slave on the end connector unless your installation
>> directions specify that the DVD has to be a Master. Many
>> motherboards will only boot from a CD if it's the master device on
>> the secondary channel, and it's often useful to be able to boot from
>> the same drive where you created a CD for reasons I won't go into
>> here.) In either case, let's be sure that things are set up
>> correctly physically and eliminate that as a problem.
>>
>> What devices do you currently have installed on the Primary IDE
>> channel, BTW? Two HD's?
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>
>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:42F96A32.1A4A6274@cox.net
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Aargh! I ran FilterFixer, and restarted the system, but still can
>>> only see the DVD drive in Windows. The funny thing is that when I
>>> was testing, I booted into Safemode, and I could see both the DVD
>>> and CDRW then???
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> ohaya wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open the
>>>> machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
>>>>> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional
>>>>> things besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest
>>>>> running both it and the FilterFixer package, link to directions
>>>>> here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt,
>>>>> direct download here:
>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe, in
>>>>> order, maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42F92748.286AEC2E@cox.net
>>>>>> Jim (Byrd),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
>>>>>> tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I
>>>>>> noticed that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with
>>>>>> Upper and Lower Filter already?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jim - See here:
>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008
>>>>>>> It may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined
>>>>>>> there to delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
>>>>>>> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as
>>>>>>> well): http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
>>>>>>> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup
>>>>>>> first so that you can recover if there are problems (there
>>>>>>> aren't usually, BTW).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
>>>>>>> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.exe
>>>>>>> Instructions here:
>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/ [...] p27949.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>>>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>>>>>>>