Manyhave speculated that there would be few if any new card developments from either ATI or Nvidia before the release of Direct3D 10. Think again: Nvidia released Quad SLI and now ATI launches another mainstream card family that should make gamers and enthusiasts very happy.

Pretty good so far.

Why buy when DirectX 10 is comming ever closer? But I guess that has been discused to death already.

ehh

I can't wait for R600!!!

Why buy this card?? There will always be those with Deep pockets who must have the best of the best at any given time....
I'm waiting for DX10 cards and Crossfire/Nforce Motherboard. Core2Duo of course. Cant wait till Christmas/boxing day, its gonna be great timing, and since ill be home for winter holiday (im a univeristy student), ill actually have time to enjoy the new hardware =D. Kinda excited thinking about it. OK back on topic
 
The X1950XTX is what i expected it to be, a slightly faster version of the X1900XTX, I wasnt expecting it to completely surpass the 7950GX2 because it is the same Core as the x1900 after all. I like how ATI addressed the Cooler issue, Full Copper, AND quiter?? Perfect haha. I'm confident that the ATI coolers on the DX10 cards are gonna be ausome as well. I really like how the videocard blows the air out the back, makes no sense circulating hot air within the case rite? I wish the fans would use a smaller number of fins but larger ones, that should move more air and be quiter. All in all, the "new" x1950xtx is just another out of reach card for 99% of the consumers, great performance as all high end cards have but a steep price as usual.

It seems to me, that in terms of price/performance, the only option a gamer has is the X1950XTX.
 
This coming from an nVidia fan boy.

You guys are kind of missing the relevance of this launch.  GDDR4 is what's so important.  IMO anyways.

Its a shame that AMD's linux drivers are so crappy, or even nonexistent for quite a few of their GPUs.
 
Its the reason why I'd never buy an AMD card, especially as nVidia's Linux drivers are done reasonably well.
 
Lets just hope with the AMD-ATI merger that they finally get a clue.

 
Dude what are you talking about? The Geforce 7950 beats the living shit out of this thing, especially at higher resolutions, and is only $100 more.
 
Doom3 4xAA 8xAF 1600x1200  2048x1536
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7950Gx2:              118.5fps      87.5fps
1950XTX:              78.3  fps      49.2fps
 
AMD Don't call us.
 
Thats not even considering the 'AMD = crappy Linux drivers' issue.

When it comes to performance, this may be the only choice for a hardcore gamer.
 
I've done the numbers, and price/performance leader is a Raden X850XT PCI-E...atleast in terms of MPixels/$sec, it turns out in the low 70s, best nVidia offers in their 7950 at the mid 50s. Even crossfire X850XTs wins out, in the mid 60s...

 
steep/unreachable price? man, I paid 500 bones for my xt @ the begining of this year! To me it is nice that they released it at such a reasonable price... They could have put it closer to the 7950 but instead did 450, which could be lower at certain vendors if you look hard enough. (depending on supply/demand)
 
quite frankly, even my card @ 500 was not unreachable for 99% of consumers. If it was then simple market dynamics would have driven it down. No, it sold just fine. If the market will not bear the cost, then the cost comes down. If it doesnt come down then someone is buying it...
 
finally; you can always wait for the next big thing... There is always one around the corner. If you want to wait that is fine, but you will always have a "better" one comming in a "few months". IMO you should always buy when you have the $. The only time that does not hold is if you know for certain that the better one is only a day or so away... and even then it is debatable.

lol, niz trust me you are not 1337 with your "AMD linux" drivers or "AMD GPU'S" you just sound a fool.  it is ATI and as far as im concerned always will be.  damn bloody fanboys.
 
  on the subject of this card launch it is good enough considering the only changes was ram really.  the only thing i want too know is how long until this ram can be produced in bigger quantities and maybe seen on all cards.  it doesn't directly affect me as i am not going to be upgrading for a while but i still like to see things pushed forward.

AMD or ATI technically either one is right....

no, just no.  yes AMD haev aquired ATI but that will not take effect till a few months from now and even then in any reasonable persons mind ATI will still be ATI.  i am not getting into this arument in this thread.  all i can say is STFU and get real.  AMD have nothing to do with anything gfx related and that is all that is to be said.

 
Sweet.  I've got an X850XT (although I bought it about 6 months ago).  I would love to upgrade to a x1950 (if I had the money).  It seems to be about the right price for the performance.  IMO, DX10 is still far enough away that it is not worth waiting for (5 months+).

 
no. just no. you realize the merger isn't even complete and i doubt amd will drop ati's name, but they might but right now your "technically" wrong

http://www.megagames.com/news/html [...] date.shtml
 
Looks like it's going to be ATI graphics not AMD graphics.  Also, agreed, high end cards are expensive but they aren't out of reach of those who really want one.  Some people just don't see a need to spend 500$ on a graphics card so they don't and they call it a waste of money.  All a matter of opinion.
 
EDIT:  A good example of thi AMD/ATI graphics debate is cars... Ya, Chrysler is owned by Dodge, but would you say you own a Dodge 300?  No, you would say you drive a Chrysler 300.  AMD will own ATI after the merger is complete, and afterwards it will still be ATI graphics.

 
steep/unreachable price? man, I paid 500 bones for my xt @ the begining of this year! To me it is nice that they released it at such a reasonable price... They could have put it closer to the 7950 but instead did 450, which could be lower at certain vendors if you look hard enough. (depending on supply/demand)
 
quite frankly, even my card @ 500 was not unreachable for 99% of consumers. If it was then simple market dynamics would have driven it down. No, it sold just fine. If the market will not bear the cost, then the cost comes down. If it doesnt come down then someone is buying it...
 
finally; you can always wait for the next big thing... There is always one around the corner. If you want to wait that is fine, but you will always have a "better" one comming in a "few months". IMO you should always buy when you have the $. The only time that does not hold is if you know for certain that the better one is only a day or so away... and even then it is debatable.
 
Agreed, like the article said, both of these companies are just taking baby steps waiting for the next API to be released. we can only guess when the actual DX10 card will be released & how will that hold up to current titles. But new video cards is a must once that time comes around. Its going to be a crazy holiday season. Theres always someone thats willing to buy these cards at the current price range.
 
The only thing I dont get is someone paying 1K for a processor. 8O Now thats alot of cheese.