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My new iPaq 4155 has been working fine with my home network (Linksys
WRT54G wireless router) for the last couple of months. Now it takes longer
to connect (about 30-sec), and when it does, I can't get on the internet or
download email. The iPaq works perfectly with other Wi-Fi hotspots. When
it connects at home, under iPaq WLAN Wireless Adapter/Use server-assigned
IP address, it shows: 169.254.188.158 ... which is definitely not mine. It
should be something like 192.168.1.... My notebook computer connects to my
home wireless network just fine, so I know the network is functioning. I reset
the WEP key a couple of times, so it's correct.. All the other network settings are
as they were before. I've also done a soft reset. Using the built-in Ipaq Backup
program, I backed up everything to a storage card 4 days ago. Might it help
to do a restore (which I assume restores the registry as well)? Otherwise,
any other ideas to try?

Thanks!
Scott

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You could try changing the channel that your wireless router broadcasts on.
If your laptop uses the G WiFi specification, then you might see a
difference from that of your pocket pc access that uses the b WiFi
specification (I am assuming the iPaq 4155 is using b).
There may be a nearby neighbor that is also broadcasting wifi that could be
causing a problem.

"Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message
news:41AF7D24.177588B0@uslink.net...
> My new iPaq 4155 has been working fine with my home network (Linksys
> WRT54G wireless router) for the last couple of months. Now it takes
> longer
> to connect (about 30-sec), and when it does, I can't get on the internet
> or
> download email. The iPaq works perfectly with other Wi-Fi hotspots. When
> it connects at home, under iPaq WLAN Wireless Adapter/Use server-assigned
> IP address, it shows: 169.254.188.158 ... which is definitely not mine.
> It
> should be something like 192.168.1.... My notebook computer connects to
> my
> home wireless network just fine, so I know the network is functioning. I
> reset
> the WEP key a couple of times, so it's correct.. All the other network
> settings are
> as they were before. I've also done a soft reset. Using the built-in
> Ipaq Backup
> program, I backed up everything to a storage card 4 days ago. Might it
> help
> to do a restore (which I assume restores the registry as well)?
> Otherwise,
> any other ideas to try?
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
>

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Yeah, your IP address should not be 169.254.188.158. Maybe you are picking
up someone else's network. Then again, that IP is odd regardless. It looks
more like a commercial or corporate IP address.

Anyway, just check your router setup. There is usually a screen that will
show you what IP addresses its DHCP function assigned to connected devices.
You probably will find you are connected to someone else's router. Either
that or you somehow got your PPC configuration hard-coded to that strange
IP. Perhaps from some other router that you connected to in the past?

--
Tim Nicholson
tim@pdainfosource.com
Check out our MobileWeb Site Index at http://mobileweb.pdainfosource.com


"Gary Mount" <gary_mount@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eak6EGQ2EHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You could try changing the channel that your wireless router broadcasts
> on.
> If your laptop uses the G WiFi specification, then you might see a
> difference from that of your pocket pc access that uses the b WiFi
> specification (I am assuming the iPaq 4155 is using b).
> There may be a nearby neighbor that is also broadcasting wifi that could
> be causing a problem.
>
> "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message
> news:41AF7D24.177588B0@uslink.net...
>> My new iPaq 4155 has been working fine with my home network (Linksys
>> WRT54G wireless router) for the last couple of months. Now it takes
>> longer
>> to connect (about 30-sec), and when it does, I can't get on the internet
>> or
>> download email. The iPaq works perfectly with other Wi-Fi hotspots.
>> When
>> it connects at home, under iPaq WLAN Wireless Adapter/Use server-assigned
>> IP address, it shows: 169.254.188.158 ... which is definitely not mine.
>> It
>> should be something like 192.168.1.... My notebook computer connects to
>> my
>> home wireless network just fine, so I know the network is functioning. I
>> reset
>> the WEP key a couple of times, so it's correct.. All the other network
>> settings are
>> as they were before. I've also done a soft reset. Using the built-in
>> Ipaq Backup
>> program, I backed up everything to a storage card 4 days ago. Might it
>> help
>> to do a restore (which I assume restores the registry as well)?
>> Otherwise,
>> any other ideas to try?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Scott
>>
>
>

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Tim,

I checked my Linksys router config, and there doesn't appear to be a place
that shows each connected device. I did visit a local restaurant the night before
this happened and logged onto their network (I was able to access the internet).
It's possibe my PPC is still trying to use that IP. If so, what can I do about it?

Since then, I've been able to access other hot spots (motels, etc.) around town
that offer free WiFi access...with no problem.

I do have a neighbor with a Dlink wireless router that I occassionally see on my
PPC, but I doubt he would have such a strange IP address. I did try changing
my router to several other channels, but it didn't help.

Would restoring my iPaq Backup from a few days before this happened make a
difference? Is the IP address configured in the registry?

Thanks!
Scott

Tim Nicholson wrote:

> Yeah, your IP address should not be 169.254.188.158. Maybe you are picking
> up someone else's network. Then again, that IP is odd regardless. It looks
> more like a commercial or corporate IP address.
>
> Anyway, just check your router setup. There is usually a screen that will
> show you what IP addresses its DHCP function assigned to connected devices.
> You probably will find you are connected to someone else's router. Either
> that or you somehow got your PPC configuration hard-coded to that strange
> IP. Perhaps from some other router that you connected to in the past?
>
> --
> Tim Nicholson
> tim@pdainfosource.com
> Check out our MobileWeb Site Index at http://mobileweb.pdainfosource.com
>

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Gary,

That's a good idea. I did try several other channels on my router, but it made
no difference. I can't figure out why my PPC is locked onto that strange PPC
while at home, but logs on successfully to several WiFi hotspots around town.

Scott

Gary Mount wrote:

> You could try changing the channel that your wireless router broadcasts on.
> If your laptop uses the G WiFi specification, then you might see a
> difference from that of your pocket pc access that uses the b WiFi
> specification (I am assuming the iPaq 4155 is using b).
> There may be a nearby neighbor that is also broadcasting wifi that could be
> causing a problem.
>
> "Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message
> news:41AF7D24.177588B0@uslink.net...
> > My new iPaq 4155 has been working fine with my home network (Linksys
> > WRT54G wireless router) for the last couple of months. Now it takes
> > longer
> > to connect (about 30-sec), and when it does, I can't get on the internet
> > or
> > download email. The iPaq works perfectly with other Wi-Fi hotspots. When
> > it connects at home, under iPaq WLAN Wireless Adapter/Use server-assigned
> > IP address, it shows: 169.254.188.158 ... which is definitely not mine.
> > It
> > should be something like 192.168.1.... My notebook computer connects to
> > my
> > home wireless network just fine, so I know the network is functioning. I
> > reset
> > the WEP key a couple of times, so it's correct.. All the other network
> > settings are
> > as they were before. I've also done a soft reset. Using the built-in
> > Ipaq Backup
> > program, I backed up everything to a storage card 4 days ago. Might it
> > help
> > to do a restore (which I assume restores the registry as well)?
> > Otherwise,
> > any other ideas to try?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Scott
> >

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The 169.X.X.X address simply means your not picking up a valid IP from a DHCP server on your
network, ie. the Linksys router. Some possible causes are...

* The WEP/WPA key on the 4155 does not match the WEP/WPA key on the access point.
* Your not broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys and have not manually configured that on the 4155.
* Your using MAC Address Authentication on the access point and have not configure the 4155 MAC
Address in the authentication list.

Check...

1. Make sure your broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys or manually configure that on the 4155.
2. Make sure the WEP/WPA key matches on both the 4155 and the access point.
3. Add the 4155 MAC Address to the access point authentication list.

You also might try powering off the 4155, removing the battery or 5-10 seconds, then reinstalling
the battery. This should reset the wireless radio.

See this HP document for basic help using 802.11b wireless on your device...

http://h200001.www2.hp.com/bc/docs [...] 157709.pdf

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

"Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message news:41AF7D24.177588B0@uslink.net...
> My new iPaq 4155 has been working fine with my home network (Linksys
> WRT54G wireless router) for the last couple of months. Now it takes longer
> to connect (about 30-sec), and when it does, I can't get on the internet or
> download email. The iPaq works perfectly with other Wi-Fi hotspots. When
> it connects at home, under iPaq WLAN Wireless Adapter/Use server-assigned
> IP address, it shows: 169.254.188.158 ... which is definitely not mine. It
> should be something like 192.168.1.... My notebook computer connects to my
> home wireless network just fine, so I know the network is functioning. I reset
> the WEP key a couple of times, so it's correct.. All the other network settings are
> as they were before. I've also done a soft reset. Using the built-in Ipaq Backup
> program, I backed up everything to a storage card 4 days ago. Might it help
> to do a restore (which I assume restores the registry as well)? Otherwise,
> any other ideas to try?
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
>

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Scott <golden@uslink.net> wrote in news:41B0C322.44EA66E1@uslink.net:

> Tim,
>
> I checked my Linksys router config, and there doesn't appear to be a
> place that shows each connected device. I did visit a local
> restaurant the night before this happened and logged onto their
> network (I was able to access the internet). It's possibe my PPC is
> still trying to use that IP. If so, what can I do about it?
>
> Since then, I've been able to access other hot spots (motels, etc.)
> around town that offer free WiFi access...with no problem.
>
> I do have a neighbor with a Dlink wireless router that I occassionally
> see on my PPC, but I doubt he would have such a strange IP address. I
> did try changing my router to several other channels, but it didn't
> help.
>
> Would restoring my iPaq Backup from a few days before this happened
> make a difference? Is the IP address configured in the registry?
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
>
> Tim Nicholson wrote:
>
>> Yeah, your IP address should not be 169.254.188.158. Maybe you are
>> picking up someone else's network. Then again, that IP is odd
>> regardless. It looks more like a commercial or corporate IP address.
>>
>> Anyway, just check your router setup. There is usually a screen that
>> will show you what IP addresses its DHCP function assigned to
>> connected devices. You probably will find you are connected to
>> someone else's router. Either that or you somehow got your PPC
>> configuration hard-coded to that strange IP. Perhaps from some other
>> router that you connected to in the past?



Fear not... the 169.254 address would show up if your PPC can't find any
DHCP servers to talk to. i.e., before it associates itself to a nearby
access point or router.

These addresses in the 169.254.xxx.yyy would show up sometimes in your
Windows boxes if you have a cable connected, but no DHCP servers are
assigning IP addresses.

You can read more about it over at:
http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_D [...] ssingA.htm


I have seen this behaviour myself. All you have to do is to release the
IP address and once your Pocket PC finds a wireless access point or router
to talk to, you can then renew the address.

-Chris

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Sooner Al,

Thanks for the suggestions. I read the HP document you suggested. It's very good.

Next, I reset the WEP key on the PPC and router and then checked to make sure the
SSID is being broadcast (it is). I do not have MAC Address Authentication turned on.
I also tried removing and reinstalling the battery, releasing and renewing the router
connection, and resetting the router. Nothing changed.

I'm still getting that strange IP address: 169.254.188.158.

What's odd is that the PPC has no problem connecting to my Linksys router. It's just not
seeing the 192.168.1.... address.

I see at www.hp.com, they do offer a Wireless LAN Driver Update, which addresses some
roaming questions. However, it requires ROM Version 1.10.xx. and my unit has v1.00. I
read on a newsgroup somewhere about problems when upgrading to this ROM version, so
I'm leery of making the situation worse.

I've had the h4155 iPaq for three months and have had no problem connecting to my home
network, until now. I guess I can live without the home connection feature as long as it
works with other networks, but I miss that option.

I'm puzzled. Any more ideas?

Thanks again!
Scott

Sooner Al wrote:

> The 169.X.X.X address simply means your not picking up a valid IP from a DHCP server on your
> network, ie. the Linksys router. Some possible causes are...
>
> * The WEP/WPA key on the 4155 does not match the WEP/WPA key on the access point.
> * Your not broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys and have not manually configured that on the 4155.
> * Your using MAC Address Authentication on the access point and have not configure the 4155 MAC
> Address in the authentication list.
>
> Check...
>
> 1. Make sure your broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys or manually configure that on the 4155.
> 2. Make sure the WEP/WPA key matches on both the 4155 and the access point.
> 3. Add the 4155 MAC Address to the access point authentication list.
>
> You also might try powering off the 4155, removing the battery or 5-10 seconds, then reinstalling
> the battery. This should reset the wireless radio.
>
> See this HP document for basic help using 802.11b wireless on your device...
>
> http://h200001.www2.hp.com/bc/docs [...] 157709.pdf
>
> -

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Sooner Al,

Thanks for the suggestions. I read the HP support document. Very informative.

I reset the WEP key on my PPC and the Linksys router. Then I checked to see if SSID
is being broadcast (it is). I have not enabled MAC Address Authentication at all.

I also removed the battery and reinstalled it. Plus, I released and renewed my router...and
also reset the router. Nothing has changed.

It connects just fine to my home network, but I can't access anything.

On HP's support site, I see there is a Wireless LAN Driver Update that addresses roaming
issues. However, it requires ROM Version 1.10.xx. My ROM is v. 1.0. I read on another
newsgroup about problems when upgrading to this ROM version, so I'm leery of trying it
and making the problems worse.

I guess I can live without accessing my home network, but I sure hate to give up that option.

Any other ideas?

Thanks again!
Scott


Sooner Al wrote:

> The 169.X.X.X address simply means your not picking up a valid IP from a DHCP server on your
> network, ie. the Linksys router. Some possible causes are...
>
> * The WEP/WPA key on the 4155 does not match the WEP/WPA key on the access point.
> * Your not broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys and have not manually configured that on the 4155.
> * Your using MAC Address Authentication on the access point and have not configure the 4155 MAC
> Address in the authentication list.
>
> Check...
>
> 1. Make sure your broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys or manually configure that on the 4155.
> 2. Make sure the WEP/WPA key matches on both the 4155 and the access point.
> 3. Add the 4155 MAC Address to the access point authentication list.
>
> You also might try powering off the 4155, removing the battery or 5-10 seconds, then reinstalling
> the battery. This should reset the wireless radio.
>
> See this HP document for basic help using 802.11b wireless on your device...
>
> http://h200001.www2.hp.com/bc/docs [...] 157709.pdf
>
> --
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

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Sooner Al,

Thanks for the suggestions. I read the HP support document. Very informative.

I reset the WEP key on my PPC and the Linksys router. Then I checked to see if SSID
is being broadcast (it is). I have not enabled MAC Address Authentication at all.

I also removed the battery and reinstalled it and did a soft reset. Plus, I released and
renewed my router...and also reset the router. Plus, I tried changing the channels on
the router. Nothing has made a difference.

It connects just fine to my home network, but I can't access anything.

On HP's support site, I see there is a Wireless LAN Driver Update that addresses roaming
issues. However, it requires ROM Version 1.10.xx. My ROM is v. 1.0. I read on another
newsgroup about problems when upgrading to this ROM version, so I'm leery of trying it
and making the problems worse.

I guess I can live without accessing my home network, but I sure hate to give up that option.

Any other ideas?

Thanks again!
Scott

Sooner Al wrote:

> The 169.X.X.X address simply means your not picking up a valid IP from a DHCP server on your
> network, ie. the Linksys router. Some possible causes are...
>
> * The WEP/WPA key on the 4155 does not match the WEP/WPA key on the access point.
> * Your not broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys and have not manually configured that on the 4155.
> * Your using MAC Address Authentication on the access point and have not configure the 4155 MAC
> Address in the authentication list.
>
> Check...
>
> 1. Make sure your broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys or manually configure that on the 4155.
> 2. Make sure the WEP/WPA key matches on both the 4155 and the access point.
> 3. Add the 4155 MAC Address to the access point authentication list.
>
> You also might try powering off the 4155, removing the battery or 5-10 seconds, then reinstalling
> the battery. This should reset the wireless radio.
>
> See this HP document for basic help using 802.11b wireless on your device...
>
> http://h200001.www2.hp.com/bc/docs [...] 157709.pdf
>

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Sooner Al,

Thanks for the suggestions. I read the HP support document. Very informative.

I reset the WEP key on my PPC and the Linksys router. Then I checked to see if SSID
is being broadcast (it is). I have not enabled MAC Address Authentication at all.

I also removed the battery and reinstalled it and did a soft reset. Plus, I released and
renewed my router...and also reset the router. Plus, I tried changing the channels on
the router. Nothing has made a difference.

It connects just fine to my home network, but I can't access anything.

On HP's support site, I see there is a Wireless LAN Driver Update that addresses roaming
issues. However, it requires ROM Version 1.10.xx. My ROM is v. 1.0. I read on another
newsgroup about problems when upgrading to this ROM version, so I'm leery of trying it
and making the problems worse.

I guess I can live without accessing my home network, but I sure hate to give up that option.

Any other ideas?

Thanks again!
Scott



Sooner Al wrote:

> The 169.X.X.X address simply means your not picking up a valid IP from a DHCP server on your
> network, ie. the Linksys router. Some possible causes are...
>
> * The WEP/WPA key on the 4155 does not match the WEP/WPA key on the access point.
> * Your not broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys and have not manually configured that on the 4155.
> * Your using MAC Address Authentication on the access point and have not configure the 4155 MAC
> Address in the authentication list.
>
> Check...
>
> 1. Make sure your broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys or manually configure that on the 4155.
> 2. Make sure the WEP/WPA key matches on both the 4155 and the access point.
> 3. Add the 4155 MAC Address to the access point authentication list.
>
> You also might try powering off the 4155, removing the battery or 5-10 seconds, then reinstalling
> the battery. This should reset the wireless radio.
>
> See this HP document for basic help using 802.11b wireless on your device...
>
> http://h200001.www2.hp.com/bc/docs [...] 157709.pdf
>

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Yikes. I upgraded the ROM to 1.10 as soon as I got the 4155. I installed the
Wi-Fi update too. What problems are there with this ROM update?

--
Tim Nicholson
tim@pdainfosource.com
Check out our MobileWeb Site Index at http://mobileweb.pdainfosource.com


"Scott" <golden@uslink.net> wrote in message
news:41B0FD80.C5ECE674@uslink.net...
> Sooner Al,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I read the HP document you suggested. It's
> very good.
>
> Next, I reset the WEP key on the PPC and router and then checked to make
> sure the
> SSID is being broadcast (it is). I do not have MAC Address Authentication
> turned on.
> I also tried removing and reinstalling the battery, releasing and
> renewing the router
> connection, and resetting the router. Nothing changed.
>
> I'm still getting that strange IP address: 169.254.188.158.
>
> What's odd is that the PPC has no problem connecting to my Linksys router.
> It's just not
> seeing the 192.168.1.... address.
>
> I see at www.hp.com, they do offer a Wireless LAN Driver Update, which
> addresses some
> roaming questions. However, it requires ROM Version 1.10.xx. and my unit
> has v1.00. I
> read on a newsgroup somewhere about problems when upgrading to this ROM
> version, so
> I'm leery of making the situation worse.
>
> I've had the h4155 iPaq for three months and have had no problem
> connecting to my home
> network, until now. I guess I can live without the home connection
> feature as long as it
> works with other networks, but I miss that option.
>
> I'm puzzled. Any more ideas?
>
> Thanks again!
> Scott
>
> Sooner Al wrote:
>
>> The 169.X.X.X address simply means your not picking up a valid IP from a
>> DHCP server on your
>> network, ie. the Linksys router. Some possible causes are...
>>
>> * The WEP/WPA key on the 4155 does not match the WEP/WPA key on the
>> access point.
>> * Your not broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys and have not manually
>> configured that on the 4155.
>> * Your using MAC Address Authentication on the access point and have not
>> configure the 4155 MAC
>> Address in the authentication list.
>>
>> Check...
>>
>> 1. Make sure your broadcasting the SSID from the Linksys or manually
>> configure that on the 4155.
>> 2. Make sure the WEP/WPA key matches on both the 4155 and the access
>> point.
>> 3. Add the 4155 MAC Address to the access point authentication list.
>>
>> You also might try powering off the 4155, removing the battery or 5-10
>> seconds, then reinstalling
>> the battery. This should reset the wireless radio.
>>
>> See this HP document for basic help using 802.11b wireless on your
>> device...
>>
>> http://h200001.www2.hp.com/bc/docs [...] 157709.pdf
>>
>> -
>