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Trying to install fonts in Windows 98, but I have no "Install Font" option
under the File menu (as is instructed in Windows Help). Dragging/Dropping
files into the Font folder doesn't work either.

I went to the MS Knowledge Base website, which said to extract a new
fontext.dll file. I followed the instructions, but no change. The website
then said to extract a new desktop.ini file, which I also did, per
instructions. No change.

I've installed plenty of fonts quite easily on other systems -- why is this
so hard?? I'm a graphic designer: I need these fonts!!

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Open a DOS prompt. Type in the following commands:

attrib +s c:\windows\fonts
exit

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:711DD39B-7A31-46ED-B1EA-37476C2C3C03@microsoft.com...
> Trying to install fonts in Windows 98, but I have no "Install Font"
> option
> under the File menu (as is instructed in Windows Help).
> Dragging/Dropping
> files into the Font folder doesn't work either.
>
> I went to the MS Knowledge Base website, which said to extract a new
> fontext.dll file. I followed the instructions, but no change. The
> website
> then said to extract a new desktop.ini file, which I also did, per
> instructions. No change.
>
> I've installed plenty of fonts quite easily on other systems -- why is
> this
> so hard?? I'm a graphic designer: I need these fonts!!

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Your Fonts folder has lost it's System attribute. So...

"START button, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt".
ATTRIB C:\Windows\Fonts +S +R


C:\>attrib c:\Windows\Fonts
S R FONTS c:\Windows\FONTS


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:711DD39B-7A31-46ED-B1EA-37476C2C3C03@microsoft.com...
| Trying to install fonts in Windows 98, but I have no "Install Font"
option
| under the File menu (as is instructed in Windows Help).
Dragging/Dropping
| files into the Font folder doesn't work either.
|
| I went to the MS Knowledge Base website, which said to extract a new
| fontext.dll file. I followed the instructions, but no change. The
website
| then said to extract a new desktop.ini file, which I also did, per
| instructions. No change.
|
| I've installed plenty of fonts quite easily on other systems -- why is
this
| so hard?? I'm a graphic designer: I need these fonts!!

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I tried both sets of commands from the above posts, and all variations
thereof. Still no change.

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In DOS, from "c:\windows\fonts"

I typed: "attrib +s" A line appeared saying:

"Not resetting hidden file C:\windows\fonts\VGA850.FON
Sharing violation reading drive C
Abort, Retry, Fail?"

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I'm not sure what you typed. After typing it...

(a) Click the MARK button
(b) Outline all the relevant text with your mouse
(c) Use the COPY button, & post it into a reply...

START button, Programs, MSDOS-Prompt

C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts
S R FONTS C:\windows\FONTS

If it doesn't look like that, then...

C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts +S +R

C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts
S R FONTS C:\windows\FONTS


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| I tried both sets of commands from the above posts, and all variations
| thereof. Still no change.

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That's not a proper command. You must specify the folder for which the
attribute is being changed, not just run a half-formed attrib command
from within the folder.

From any DOS prompt:

attrib +s c:\windows\fonts

Or:

cd \
cd windows
attrib +s fonts

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:622552A8-AD90-4E41-8ECD-023D641260A7@microsoft.com...
> In DOS, from "c:\windows\fonts"
>
> I typed: "attrib +s" A line appeared saying:
>
> "Not resetting hidden file C:\windows\fonts\VGA850.FON
> Sharing violation reading drive C
> Abort, Retry, Fail?"
>
>

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To test, run the following command:

attrib c:\windows\fonts

Does it say it already has the S (System) attribute? Have you restarted
since you reset the attrib? How many fonts do you have in your fonts
folder?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I tried both sets of commands from the above posts, and all variations
> thereof. Still no change.

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Tried it again, here is a copy:


Microsoft(R) Windows 98
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.

C:\WINDOWS>cd:\

C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts
S R FONTS C:\windows\FONTS

C:\>

See anything amiss? I also tried your other suggestion and came up with:


Microsoft(R) Windows 98
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999

C:\WINDOWS>cd:\

C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts +S +R

C:\>

But still no change, even after rebooting.
Thanks for your efforts, I really appreciate your help.

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Nope. The system attribute is apparently set. You might try UNsetting it
and then resetting it.

Have you restarted since setting the attribute?

How many fonts do you have installed.

Do you use any Fonts manager, like ATM from Adobe, or Font Navigator
from Bitstream?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:17A425DA-10FA-4D4C-B2F1-71FF7C2EC3E7@microsoft.com...
> Tried it again, here is a copy:
>
>
> Microsoft(R) Windows 98
> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
>
> C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
>
> C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts
> S R FONTS C:\windows\FONTS
>
> C:\>
>
> See anything amiss? I also tried your other suggestion and came up
> with:
>
>
> Microsoft(R) Windows 98
> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999
>
> C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
>
> C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts +S +R
>
> C:\>
>
> But still no change, even after rebooting.
> Thanks for your efforts, I really appreciate your help.
>
>

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You have tried some of these but this is my standard response:

The first thing to establish is the number of fonts you have installed
(including variations) The limit can be reached normally around
700-1000 though I personally recommend no more than 250

I will give you a list of common font problems.

1. Default printer has been set to other than a valid printer.
Check that your default printer has not been set to "generic, text
only" as this will stop fonts from showing.

2. Fonts folder has lost its system properties.
This will be obvious if viewing the fonts folder. You will not have
the names and the "install new font" option under file.
If so:
Check the protection in properties on folder c:\Windows\fonts
if it is not shown with a check in system, then you cannot install new
fonts. It should also be protected, so you may not be able to alter
from explorer.
Restart in dos mode and use command
attrib +s c:\Windows\fonts
reboot and all should be ok

3. Font cache corrupted (less common)
delete c:\Windows\ttfcache and reboot. (Do not move it, only delete
it) It will be regenerated

4.Use tweakui from the PowerToys. It has a repair fonts option which
will also fix fonts folder in 2.

Tweak UI 1.33 for Windows 2000, Windows NT, Windows Millennium
Edition, Windows 98 or Windows 95.
Details at: (may wrap)
http://www.microsoft.com/ntworksta [...] weakUI.asp
Download at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsme/guide/tweakui.exe
TweakUI should fix the hidden desktop.ini if that is the problem.

5.Check that the value "fonts" in the registry at
"hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\explorer\shell
folders" has data "C:\Windows\fonts" (assuming %windir% is C:\Windows)

6.Fontext.Dll is missing or corrupted.
Win95:
From a dos prompt change to the windows\system directory and type:
Extract d:\Win95\win95\win95_10.Cab fontext.Dll
(if you have osr2, it will be in win95_16.Cab)
where d: Is the letter of your cd-rom.

Win98: Replace it using SFC (Start-Run-SFC)

7.Check this article on the use of the Fontreg tool:

Missing TrueType Fonts in Fonts Folder or Programs
http://support.microsoft.com/suppo [...] 3/7/32.asp


....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:27:03 -0700, dinana
<dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Trying to install fonts in Windows 98, but I have no "Install Font" option
>under the File menu (as is instructed in Windows Help). Dragging/Dropping
>files into the Font folder doesn't work either.
>
>I went to the MS Knowledge Base website, which said to extract a new
>fontext.dll file. I followed the instructions, but no change. The website
>then said to extract a new desktop.ini file, which I also did, per
>instructions. No change.
>
>I've installed plenty of fonts quite easily on other systems -- why is this
>so hard?? I'm a graphic designer: I need these fonts!!

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This means your attributes are correct. It must be something else amiss.
I'll leave you for the moment in Terhune's & Edwards's hands. Perhaps
you have exceeded the limit.

DIR C:\Windows\Fonts

C:\>dir c:\windows\fonts
....snip
119 file(s) 13,849,816 bytes
2 dir(s) 6,773.66 MB free

Perhaps post the URLs of the article(s) you tried for inspection.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:17A425DA-10FA-4D4C-B2F1-71FF7C2EC3E7@microsoft.com...
| Tried it again, here is a copy:
|
|
| Microsoft(R) Windows 98
| (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
|
| C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
|
| C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts
| S R FONTS C:\windows\FONTS
|
| C:\>
|
| See anything amiss? I also tried your other suggestion and came up
with:
|
|
| Microsoft(R) Windows 98
| (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999
|
| C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
|
| C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts +S +R
|
| C:\>
|
| But still no change, even after rebooting.
| Thanks for your efforts, I really appreciate your help.
|
|

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dir c:\windows\fonts /a
....snip
130 file(s) 14,107,701 bytes
2 dir(s) 6,765.66 MB free

/a shows the hidden ones too.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
newsvIuedOmFHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| This means your attributes are correct. It must be something else
amiss.
| I'll leave you for the moment in Terhune's & Edwards's hands. Perhaps
| you have exceeded the limit.
|
| DIR C:\Windows\Fonts
|
| C:\>dir c:\windows\fonts
| ...snip
| 119 file(s) 13,849,816 bytes
| 2 dir(s) 6,773.66 MB free
|
| Perhaps post the URLs of the article(s) you tried for inspection.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:17A425DA-10FA-4D4C-B2F1-71FF7C2EC3E7@microsoft.com...
| | Tried it again, here is a copy:
| |
| |
| | Microsoft(R) Windows 98
| | (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
| |
| | C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
| |
| | C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts
| | S R FONTS C:\windows\FONTS
| |
| | C:\>
| |
| | See anything amiss? I also tried your other suggestion and came up
| with:
| |
| |
| | Microsoft(R) Windows 98
| | (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999
| |
| | C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
| |
| | C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts +S +R
| |
| | C:\>
| |
| | But still no change, even after rebooting.
| | Thanks for your efforts, I really appreciate your help.
| |
| |
|
|

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After c:\>dir c:\windows\fonts it showed I have

84 file(s) 10,016,868 bytes
2 dir(s) 7,794.65 MB free

Apparently it isn't the number of fonts that is creating a problem!

entering the command using /a shows

91 file(s) 10,538,424 bytes
2 dir(s) 7,790.63 MB free




"PCR" wrote:

> This means your attributes are correct. It must be something else amiss.
> I'll leave you for the moment in Terhune's & Edwards's hands. Perhaps
> you have exceeded the limit.
>
> DIR C:\Windows\Fonts
>
> C:\>dir c:\windows\fonts
> ....snip
> 119 file(s) 13,849,816 bytes
> 2 dir(s) 6,773.66 MB free
>
> Perhaps post the URLs of the article(s) you tried for inspection.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:17A425DA-10FA-4D4C-B2F1-71FF7C2EC3E7@microsoft.com...
> | Tried it again, here is a copy:
> |
> |
> | Microsoft(R) Windows 98
> | (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.
> |
> | C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
> |
> | C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts
> | S R FONTS C:\windows\FONTS
> |
> | C:\>
> |
> | See anything amiss? I also tried your other suggestion and came up
> with:
> |
> |
> | Microsoft(R) Windows 98
> | (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999
> |
> | C:\WINDOWS>cd:\
> |
> | C:\>ATTRIB C:\windows\fonts +S +R
> |
> | C:\>
> |
> | But still no change, even after rebooting.
> | Thanks for your efforts, I really appreciate your help.
> |
> |
>
>
>

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Gary,
when I test using attrib c:\windows\fonts, here it what I get:

C:\>attrib c:\windows\fonts
S R FONTS c:\windows\FONTS

I have restarted my computer after attempting most of these commands.
At the most, I have
91 file(s) 10,538,424 bytes
2 dir(s) 7,790.63 MB free in the font folder



"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> To test, run the following command:
>
> attrib c:\windows\fonts
>
> Does it say it already has the S (System) attribute? Have you restarted
> since you reset the attrib? How many fonts do you have in your fonts
> folder?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BB83A4F5-5C00-49FF-B6A4-134A66013B56@microsoft.com...
> >I tried both sets of commands from the above posts, and all variations
> > thereof. Still no change.
>
>

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Dinana,

See Alan Edwards's reply to your original post. Go through that
checklist as methodically as you can. Please report back if/when you
manage to get it fixed, telling us what did the trick. Or, conversely,
if you go through the whole list and nothing helps.

Again, because you say you're a graphic designer, are you sure you
haven't installed any third-party FONTS management software? Can you
recall *any* change in programming, installations or uninstalls, that
might have precipitated this problem?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B3B4A3D3-613C-4BA2-A43D-61F1F3018331@microsoft.com...
> Gary,
> when I test using attrib c:\windows\fonts, here it what I get:
>
> C:\>attrib c:\windows\fonts
> S R FONTS c:\windows\FONTS
>
> I have restarted my computer after attempting most of these commands.
> At the most, I have
> 91 file(s) 10,538,424 bytes
> 2 dir(s) 7,790.63 MB free in the font folder
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> To test, run the following command:
>>
>> attrib c:\windows\fonts
>>
>> Does it say it already has the S (System) attribute? Have you
>> restarted
>> since you reset the attrib? How many fonts do you have in your fonts
>> folder?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> "dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BB83A4F5-5C00-49FF-B6A4-134A66013B56@microsoft.com...
>> >I tried both sets of commands from the above posts, and all
>> >variations
>> > thereof. Still no change.
>>
>>

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Gary,
Thanks for all your help, by the way, I'm very thankful for it.

I've done all of Alan Edward's suggestions except for #s 4, 5 (that one
confuses me), and 7. I'll try #4 as soon as I finish this post.

I'm sure I don't have any other font management software, and here's why:
(this may be the problem) After leaving my last job I lost all access to
newer/upgraded computer systems, and had to revert to my own *old* laptop to
do little side-work graphic jobs. Although I purchased the laptop to
facilitate graphics, I complained to a computer programming friend some
problems I was having; he suggested he take it and make some helpful
adjustments. He cleared out all the pre-installed junk (like AOL, etc), and
also replaced my WinME os with Win98 (my processor can handle nothing newer).
As a whole, everything works much better -- but could that have caused the
problem with my font folder?

Again, thanks.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Dinana,
>
> See Alan Edwards's reply to your original post. Go through that
> checklist as methodically as you can. Please report back if/when you
> manage to get it fixed, telling us what did the trick. Or, conversely,
> if you go through the whole list and nothing helps.
>
> Again, because you say you're a graphic designer, are you sure you
> haven't installed any third-party FONTS management software? Can you
> recall *any* change in programming, installations or uninstalls, that
> might have precipitated this problem?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B3B4A3D3-613C-4BA2-A43D-61F1F3018331@microsoft.com...
> > Gary,
> > when I test using attrib c:\windows\fonts, here it what I get:
> >
> > C:\>attrib c:\windows\fonts
> > S R FONTS c:\windows\FONTS
> >
> > I have restarted my computer after attempting most of these commands.
> > At the most, I have
> > 91 file(s) 10,538,424 bytes
> > 2 dir(s) 7,790.63 MB free in the font folder
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> To test, run the following command:
> >>
> >> attrib c:\windows\fonts
> >>
> >> Does it say it already has the S (System) attribute? Have you
> >> restarted
> >> since you reset the attrib? How many fonts do you have in your fonts
> >> folder?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >>
> >> "dinana" <dinana@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BB83A4F5-5C00-49FF-B6A4-134A66013B56@microsoft.com...
> >> >I tried both sets of commands from the above posts, and all
> >> >variations
> >> > thereof. Still no change.
> >>
> >>
>
>