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I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to windows
installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted. Now I
can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update or fix
the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also installed
all of the available critical updates from the windows update page without a
problem.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot, and see if you
can start in normal mode when clean-booting:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926

"CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx


"Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
> I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to windows
> installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted. Now I
> can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update or fix
> the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also installed
> all of the available critical updates from the windows update page without a
> problem.

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Thanks. I think I've made some progress. I had to go to the advanced
troubleshooting settings and check "Force Compatibility Mode Disk Access".
With this option, I am able to start normally, except that only my floppy
drive and hard drive work. I get several message boxes saying my antivirus
software files are corrupted and that I need to reinstall the product. As
far as windows installer 2.0 goes, I went back to the office update page and
there was no reference to install the installer, so I guess that part was
successful.

Anyway, this leads me to a new question: Are there any conflicts with
windows installer 2.0 and McAfee VirusScan 4.0.2?

Thanks for your help.

"glee" wrote:

> While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot, and see if you
> can start in normal mode when clean-booting:
>
> How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
>
> "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
> http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
>
>
> "Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
> > I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to windows
> > installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted. Now I
> > can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update or fix
> > the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also installed
> > all of the available critical updates from the windows update page without a
> > problem.
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

I am not aware of any particular conflicts between the two, but since I don't use
McAfee, I suggest you check that at their support site. If you have to "Force
Compatibility Mode Disk Access", there may be a problem with the 32-bit Windows
driver for disk access. You might try extracting new copies of the disk drivers
from your Windows CD. Most likely they are HSFLOP.PDR and ESDI_506.PDR, and they
are kept in the C:\Windows\System\iosubsys folder.

Using SFC to extract a file:
http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#1pp
http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#2pp

HOW TO: Extract Original Compressed Windows Files:
http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] S;129605#5

http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPO [...] dSection=2
or
http://tinyurl.com/3pyth
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx


"Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E89F482A-6CDE-40C6-B2ED-F89778DBAF58@microsoft.com...
> Thanks. I think I've made some progress. I had to go to the advanced
> troubleshooting settings and check "Force Compatibility Mode Disk Access".
> With this option, I am able to start normally, except that only my floppy
> drive and hard drive work. I get several message boxes saying my antivirus
> software files are corrupted and that I need to reinstall the product. As
> far as windows installer 2.0 goes, I went back to the office update page and
> there was no reference to install the installer, so I guess that part was
> successful.
>
> Anyway, this leads me to a new question: Are there any conflicts with
> windows installer 2.0 and McAfee VirusScan 4.0.2?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot, and see if
you
> > can start in normal mode when clean-booting:
> >
> > How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
> > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
> >
> > "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
> > http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> >
> >
> > "Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
> > > I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to windows
> > > installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted. Now I
> > > can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update or fix
> > > the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also installed
> > > all of the available critical updates from the windows update page without a
> > > problem.
> >
> >

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

I used SFC to extract new copies of the two files you recommended. I also
got rid of the old McAfee VirusScan (they no longer supported that edition).
I replaced it with ZoneAlarm. Neither of these actions fixed the problem.

This is what the screen shows when it hangs:
----------
ATAPI IDE CD-ROM device driver version V 1.23 B
2 drive(s) detected
unit 1, MASTER, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
unit 2, SLAVE, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170

Too many parameters
Too many parameters

PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
------

Any more suggestions? Thanks.




"glee" wrote:

> I am not aware of any particular conflicts between the two, but since I don't use
> McAfee, I suggest you check that at their support site. If you have to "Force
> Compatibility Mode Disk Access", there may be a problem with the 32-bit Windows
> driver for disk access. You might try extracting new copies of the disk drivers
> from your Windows CD. Most likely they are HSFLOP.PDR and ESDI_506.PDR, and they
> are kept in the C:\Windows\System\iosubsys folder.
>
> Using SFC to extract a file:
> http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#1pp
> http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#2pp
>
> HOW TO: Extract Original Compressed Windows Files:
> http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] S;129605#5
>
> http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPO [...] dSection=2
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/3pyth
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
>
>
> "Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E89F482A-6CDE-40C6-B2ED-F89778DBAF58@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks. I think I've made some progress. I had to go to the advanced
> > troubleshooting settings and check "Force Compatibility Mode Disk Access".
> > With this option, I am able to start normally, except that only my floppy
> > drive and hard drive work. I get several message boxes saying my antivirus
> > software files are corrupted and that I need to reinstall the product. As
> > far as windows installer 2.0 goes, I went back to the office update page and
> > there was no reference to install the installer, so I guess that part was
> > successful.
> >
> > Anyway, this leads me to a new question: Are there any conflicts with
> > windows installer 2.0 and McAfee VirusScan 4.0.2?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot, and see if
> you
> > > can start in normal mode when clean-booting:
> > >
> > > How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
> > > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
> > >
> > > "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
> > > http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> > >
> > >
> > > "Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
> > > > I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to windows
> > > > installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted. Now I
> > > > can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update or fix
> > > > the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also installed
> > > > all of the available critical updates from the windows update page without a
> > > > problem.
> > >
> > >
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

The first thing to do is get the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files out of
the way. Boot up with a bootable floppy diskette, then on the C: drive find
Config.sys and rename it to Config.bak, then find Autoexec.bat and rename it
to Autoexec.bak - then remove the floppy and restart. Does Windows start up
then?

--


"Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ADA39D46-937E-4F6F-9932-DD714B7FBE9C@microsoft.com...
>I used SFC to extract new copies of the two files you recommended. I also
> got rid of the old McAfee VirusScan (they no longer supported that
> edition).
> I replaced it with ZoneAlarm. Neither of these actions fixed the problem.
>
> This is what the screen shows when it hangs:
> ----------
> ATAPI IDE CD-ROM device driver version V 1.23 B
> 2 drive(s) detected
> unit 1, MASTER, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
> unit 2, SLAVE, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
>
> Too many parameters
> Too many parameters
>
> PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
> PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
> ------
>
> Any more suggestions? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> I am not aware of any particular conflicts between the two, but since I
>> don't use
>> McAfee, I suggest you check that at their support site. If you have to
>> "Force
>> Compatibility Mode Disk Access", there may be a problem with the 32-bit
>> Windows
>> driver for disk access. You might try extracting new copies of the disk
>> drivers
>> from your Windows CD. Most likely they are HSFLOP.PDR and ESDI_506.PDR,
>> and they
>> are kept in the C:\Windows\System\iosubsys folder.
>>
>> Using SFC to extract a file:
>> http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#1pp
>> http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#2pp
>>
>> HOW TO: Extract Original Compressed Windows Files:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] S;129605#5
>>
>> http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPO [...] dSection=2
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/3pyth
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
>>
>>
>> "Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E89F482A-6CDE-40C6-B2ED-F89778DBAF58@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks. I think I've made some progress. I had to go to the advanced
>> > troubleshooting settings and check "Force Compatibility Mode Disk
>> > Access".
>> > With this option, I am able to start normally, except that only my
>> > floppy
>> > drive and hard drive work. I get several message boxes saying my
>> > antivirus
>> > software files are corrupted and that I need to reinstall the product.
>> > As
>> > far as windows installer 2.0 goes, I went back to the office update
>> > page and
>> > there was no reference to install the installer, so I guess that part
>> > was
>> > successful.
>> >
>> > Anyway, this leads me to a new question: Are there any conflicts with
>> > windows installer 2.0 and McAfee VirusScan 4.0.2?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help.
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >
>> > > While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot,
>> > > and see if
>> you
>> > > can start in normal mode when clean-booting:
>> > >
>> > > How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
>> > > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
>> > >
>> > > "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary
>> > > Terhune
>> > > http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> > > --
>> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
>> > > > I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to
>> > > > windows
>> > > > installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when
>> > > > prompted. Now I
>> > > > can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this
>> > > > update or fix
>> > > > the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also
>> > > > installed
>> > > > all of the available critical updates from the windows update page
>> > > > without a
>> > > > problem.
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

What Richard said. :-)
The autoexec.bat file is a mess, judging from the info you posted. Rename both it
and config.sys, per Richard's instructions. If that fixes the problem, or even if
it does not, post back with your results right away.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx

"Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ADA39D46-937E-4F6F-9932-DD714B7FBE9C@microsoft.com...
> I used SFC to extract new copies of the two files you recommended. I also
> got rid of the old McAfee VirusScan (they no longer supported that edition).
> I replaced it with ZoneAlarm. Neither of these actions fixed the problem.
>
> This is what the screen shows when it hangs:
> ----------
> ATAPI IDE CD-ROM device driver version V 1.23 B
> 2 drive(s) detected
> unit 1, MASTER, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
> unit 2, SLAVE, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
>
> Too many parameters
> Too many parameters
>
>
PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WIND
OWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
>
PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WIND
OWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
> ------
>
> Any more suggestions? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > I am not aware of any particular conflicts between the two, but since I don't
use
> > McAfee, I suggest you check that at their support site. If you have to "Force
> > Compatibility Mode Disk Access", there may be a problem with the 32-bit Windows
> > driver for disk access. You might try extracting new copies of the disk drivers
> > from your Windows CD. Most likely they are HSFLOP.PDR and ESDI_506.PDR, and
they
> > are kept in the C:\Windows\System\iosubsys folder.
> >
> > Using SFC to extract a file:
> > http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#1pp
> > http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#2pp
> >
> > HOW TO: Extract Original Compressed Windows Files:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] S;129605#5
> >
> >
http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPO [...] dSection=2
> > or
> > http://tinyurl.com/3pyth
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> >
> >
> > "Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:E89F482A-6CDE-40C6-B2ED-F89778DBAF58@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks. I think I've made some progress. I had to go to the advanced
> > > troubleshooting settings and check "Force Compatibility Mode Disk Access".
> > > With this option, I am able to start normally, except that only my floppy
> > > drive and hard drive work. I get several message boxes saying my antivirus
> > > software files are corrupted and that I need to reinstall the product. As
> > > far as windows installer 2.0 goes, I went back to the office update page and
> > > there was no reference to install the installer, so I guess that part was
> > > successful.
> > >
> > > Anyway, this leads me to a new question: Are there any conflicts with
> > > windows installer 2.0 and McAfee VirusScan 4.0.2?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot, and see
if
> > you
> > > > can start in normal mode when clean-booting:
> > > >
> > > > How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
> > > >
> > > > "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
> > > > http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
> > > > > I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to windows
> > > > > installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted. Now
I
> > > > > can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update or
fix
> > > > > the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also
installed
> > > > > all of the available critical updates from the windows update page without
a
> > > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Maybe I did this all wrong, but since I don't have a boot disk, I went to
bootdisk.com and made a disk for windows 98 se. I used that to start up to
the A drive prompt. I switched over to the c drive and changed both files as
recommended. What does changing the extensions do to the process? I mean,
how does it start up without those files? Anyway, it didn't start up. Am I
missing a step here?

Sorry for the delay between posts. I'm actually working on my in-law's
computer and I can't get over here every day to try out your solutions.
Thank you both for you help so far.


"glee" wrote:

> What Richard said. :-)
> The autoexec.bat file is a mess, judging from the info you posted. Rename both it
> and config.sys, per Richard's instructions. If that fixes the problem, or even if
> it does not, post back with your results right away.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
>
> "Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ADA39D46-937E-4F6F-9932-DD714B7FBE9C@microsoft.com...
> > I used SFC to extract new copies of the two files you recommended. I also
> > got rid of the old McAfee VirusScan (they no longer supported that edition).
> > I replaced it with ZoneAlarm. Neither of these actions fixed the problem.
> >
> > This is what the screen shows when it hangs:
> > ----------
> > ATAPI IDE CD-ROM device driver version V 1.23 B
> > 2 drive(s) detected
> > unit 1, MASTER, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
> > unit 2, SLAVE, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
> >
> > Too many parameters
> > Too many parameters
> >
> >
> PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WIND
> OWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> > FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
> >
> PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WIND
> OWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> > FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
> > ------
> >
> > Any more suggestions? Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > I am not aware of any particular conflicts between the two, but since I don't
> use
> > > McAfee, I suggest you check that at their support site. If you have to "Force
> > > Compatibility Mode Disk Access", there may be a problem with the 32-bit Windows
> > > driver for disk access. You might try extracting new copies of the disk drivers
> > > from your Windows CD. Most likely they are HSFLOP.PDR and ESDI_506.PDR, and
> they
> > > are kept in the C:\Windows\System\iosubsys folder.
> > >
> > > Using SFC to extract a file:
> > > http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#1pp
> > > http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#2pp
> > >
> > > HOW TO: Extract Original Compressed Windows Files:
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] S;129605#5
> > >
> > >
> http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPO [...] dSection=2
> > > or
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3pyth
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> > >
> > >
> > > "Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:E89F482A-6CDE-40C6-B2ED-F89778DBAF58@microsoft.com...
> > > > Thanks. I think I've made some progress. I had to go to the advanced
> > > > troubleshooting settings and check "Force Compatibility Mode Disk Access".
> > > > With this option, I am able to start normally, except that only my floppy
> > > > drive and hard drive work. I get several message boxes saying my antivirus
> > > > software files are corrupted and that I need to reinstall the product. As
> > > > far as windows installer 2.0 goes, I went back to the office update page and
> > > > there was no reference to install the installer, so I guess that part was
> > > > successful.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, this leads me to a new question: Are there any conflicts with
> > > > windows installer 2.0 and McAfee VirusScan 4.0.2?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > >
> > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot, and see
> if
> > > you
> > > > > can start in normal mode when clean-booting:
> > > > >
> > > > > How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
> > > > > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
> > > > >
> > > > > "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
> > > > > http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > > > --
> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to windows
> > > > > > installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted. Now
> I
> > > > > > can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update or
> fix
> > > > > > the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also
> installed
> > > > > > all of the available critical updates from the windows update page without
> a
> > > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

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Windows did not start at all? The autoexec.bat and config.sys files are not needed
to start Windows at all. Please describe exactly how you renamed the two
files.....I mean, describe the process you used to do it.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx


"Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EE69B256-2A7A-49E9-9900-3C4D7AFF744C@microsoft.com...
> Maybe I did this all wrong, but since I don't have a boot disk, I went to
> bootdisk.com and made a disk for windows 98 se. I used that to start up to
> the A drive prompt. I switched over to the c drive and changed both files as
> recommended. What does changing the extensions do to the process? I mean,
> how does it start up without those files? Anyway, it didn't start up. Am I
> missing a step here?
>
> Sorry for the delay between posts. I'm actually working on my in-law's
> computer and I can't get over here every day to try out your solutions.
> Thank you both for you help so far.
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
> > What Richard said. :-)
> > The autoexec.bat file is a mess, judging from the info you posted. Rename both
it
> > and config.sys, per Richard's instructions. If that fixes the problem, or even
if
> > it does not, post back with your results right away.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> >
> > "Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:ADA39D46-937E-4F6F-9932-DD714B7FBE9C@microsoft.com...
> > > I used SFC to extract new copies of the two files you recommended. I also
> > > got rid of the old McAfee VirusScan (they no longer supported that edition).
> > > I replaced it with ZoneAlarm. Neither of these actions fixed the problem.
> > >
> > > This is what the screen shows when it hangs:
> > > ----------
> > > ATAPI IDE CD-ROM device driver version V 1.23 B
> > > 2 drive(s) detected
> > > unit 1, MASTER, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
> > > unit 2, SLAVE, IRQ 15, I/O address, 0x0170
> > >
> > > Too many parameters
> > > Too many parameters
> > >
> > >
> >
PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WIND
> > OWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> > > FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
> > >
> >
PATH=C:\CPQS\SAVEREST;C:\CPQS\TOOLS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WIND
> > OWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\PROGRAM
> > > FILES\ZONE LABS\ZONEALARM\MAILFRONTIER
> > > ------
> > >
> > > Any more suggestions? Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am not aware of any particular conflicts between the two, but since I
don't
> > use
> > > > McAfee, I suggest you check that at their support site. If you have to
"Force
> > > > Compatibility Mode Disk Access", there may be a problem with the 32-bit
Windows
> > > > driver for disk access. You might try extracting new copies of the disk
drivers
> > > > from your Windows CD. Most likely they are HSFLOP.PDR and ESDI_506.PDR, and
> > they
> > > > are kept in the C:\Windows\System\iosubsys folder.
> > > >
> > > > Using SFC to extract a file:
> > > > http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#1pp
> > > > http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm#2pp
> > > >
> > > > HOW TO: Extract Original Compressed Windows Files:
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/defau [...] S;129605#5
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPO [...] dSection=2
> > > > or
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/3pyth
> > > > --
> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Alex_hb" <Alexhb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:E89F482A-6CDE-40C6-B2ED-F89778DBAF58@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Thanks. I think I've made some progress. I had to go to the advanced
> > > > > troubleshooting settings and check "Force Compatibility Mode Disk Access".
> > > > > With this option, I am able to start normally, except that only my floppy
> > > > > drive and hard drive work. I get several message boxes saying my
antivirus
> > > > > software files are corrupted and that I need to reinstall the product. As
> > > > > far as windows installer 2.0 goes, I went back to the office update page
and
> > > > > there was no reference to install the installer, so I guess that part was
> > > > > successful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, this leads me to a new question: Are there any conflicts with
> > > > > windows installer 2.0 and McAfee VirusScan 4.0.2?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > "glee" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > While in Safe Mode, follow the instructions here to do a clean boot, and
see
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > > can start in normal mode when clean-booting:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
> > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
> > > > > > http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Alex_hb" <Alex_hb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:06EF7D36-D82C-4469-92FB-E5F456223317@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > I tried getting some office updates but was directed to upgrade to
windows
> > > > > > > installer 2.0. I ran InstMsiA.exe and then restarted when prompted.
Now
> > I
> > > > > > > can only startup in safe mode. Is there any way to undo this update
or
> > fix
> > > > > > > the problem? I am running Windows 98 Second Edition. I had also
> > installed
> > > > > > > all of the available critical updates from the windows update page
without
> > a
> > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >