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If AMD took hit after hit without winning, then I suspect they are strong enough to regroup and go after the low end market or create some new market.
I see no need to worry yet, and companies are just like people, they have a natural survival instinct and you learn and grow stronger due to mistakes... They are still a young company with more flexibility than Intel, enabling them to react to market trends faster if needed.

No, just no. They'll always have their army of cheapskates and fanboys

Whoa.

[/slaps head]

LOL!

Leave me alone Im tired

Not to worry.
Conroe is just so much hot air. Amd will crush ti no problem.


Okay, now that I've pi$$ed off the idiot inside croud, I will let you know that Amd isn't exactly small potatoes. True, they are not the big ugly gorrila that Intel is, but with a net worth of $18 billion, they aint exactly chopped liver.
Besides, if conroe does crush them, that would be monopoly competition, and the courts would award Amd enough cash to stay afloat, and cover R&D for a new chip.

That was fun.

if amd's performance of m2 isnt enough theyll find a way. they cant just die. well see how amd does with m2. they like to keep secrets

LOL!

Hmm, I wasn't aware that the courts were in charge of giving hand-outs. The courts would only award something if Intel is proven to be actively anti-competitive, rather than winning through technology enhancement. Squeezing out the competition is part of capitalism afterall.

In any case, the chances of AMD going out of business is somewhere near zero. Even if Merom, Conroe, and Woodcrest live up to hype, it's only one battle. Dual and quad FSBs will serve Intel well in the 2 and 4-way markets, but I'll have to admit that without an OMC or some advances in interconnects the Opteron has the 8-way and higher market pretty much covered. I don't even know what Intel is going to do with the Itanium, especially with the Montecito delays and reduced specifications.

As yo said, Amd is not about to go anywhere.
As to the

well, not exactly. If an action on the part of Intel sets them up as a sole provider, they would be found guilty of monopoly competition.
Capitalism is based on competition, just because you can wipe out the little guys, doesn't make it a good idea. That's why there are anti-monopoly laws.

I really don't think that there is anywhere near that much at stake. AMD has a loyal enough fanbase now that they will stay afloat until they can do a redesign in the worst case scenario.

I think a lot of people are counting them out becuase they haven't been discussing their future plans with the media, which makes people think they have no future plans.

Its not the courts that award money, its... Intel.
Well... Intel likes to buy all of AMDs stocks rather than being split up (who would want his own company to be split up?).

Well if AM2 gets released and no one buys it because of conroe it would be a great blow, they never faced a chip thats everything - Cheaper, Faster, More Efficent, but knowing AMD they will offer there CPUs for a bargain price like the Athlon XPs (and every other cpu they made except the FX and X2) - i remember the Celeron 1800 was the same price as the AMD AthlonXP 1800.

Time will tell, AMD fanboys will help AMD survive (as Intel fanboys would) and so on.

Yes this is VERY true

They like to play dead sometimes.

Oh, Great!!! Welfare AMDroid Babies!!!
Just more handouts counted on as a corporate performa... Take that to the bank...

GIME MY HANDOUT!

Well the exact opposite could be said if Intel flubbed these benches or they run into a problem before they get the chip to market.

It could also be more disastrous for Intel because they've shown there hand 6 months before the launch, letting Amd know a bit of what they have.

Can you imagine what will happen if Intel were to miss the mark they've set now? If the chips they manufacture don't have the same gains now that they've shown they will basically single handedly undermine the release they just made.

It's very risky to do what they did. If they execute flawlessly they have nothing to worry about, but look to Intels past history and you'd know things are never that certain.