Although the DDR2-powered Athlon 64 platform is now up and running, AMD will not release it until June 6th. While this is mainly a business decision, it also has the benefit of leaving some time for performance optimizations.

I don't believe those results for 1 second. No company will release a product that performs below it's current tech. I wish Tom's would have used faster RAM (3-3-3-12 is easily obtainable over 4-4-4-12) and used the fastest RAM available (DDR2 800 is easy to find at 4-4-4-15 timings) but I guess that'd be too much in favor of AMD. Tom's says that their CPU's don't support DDR2 800, but in 2 pages it says the motherboard supports it, usually that means it can since the motherboard and CPU are both tests samples, the motherboard would have been developed around the samples and thus, can use DDR2 800 w/ the CPU.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

im actually impressed - performance is about the same, yet the thermal specs are really impresive (35w for the x2 3800+ etc) - i wasnt expecting a performance boost so much.

When conroe comes out it might still be hotter but if its "20% faster" as they claim it will be valid for the heat, compared to the prescotts which now took like a total joke - a 3800+ X2 - 35w is not even 1/3 the heat of a prescott or smithfield and the prescott doesnt even have an IMC (comparing 90nm chips).

Kind of sad, really, that even with DDR2/667. performance is less than simple DDR PC3200 speeds...

All in all, with DDR2/800, perhaps it will equal socket 939/PC3200 on a clock for clock basis...

What I found to be ridiculous is their SiSoftware Sandra Memory bandwidth results, they put DDR2 667 at 5.8GB/s, but their past Benchmarks put DDR2 667 in an Intel platform at 6.6GB/s, hmm... 800MB/s loss, that aint due to different RAM, unless this RAM was special RAM...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

*HUGZ his 2 GIG's of LL DDR1*

What's up with the cpu-z shot showin memory frequency to be 100mhz?

This is a great step- any new advance/tech that they can swing out is another step foreward- We all love fast timings, but ddr 400 is just OLD. Nevermind if you think toms used slow mem or fiddled the stats- point is that its out- do you remember the jump from northwood to prescott? what a fiasco- when you make a huge jump in tech just make the jump- the improvements will come!

Just not in the first gen

Glad they're waiting till DDR2-800...anyway the speed is to be expected. Nice to know the platform will support 2GB memory modules...I'll say right now that nobody will be happy getting a 2GB stick unless it's registered, ECC, or at least Corsair quality. That size is going to have one heck of a bunch of memory errors otherwise...

mike you gotta remember that ddr2 has higher cas latency and that amd procs love low cas ram mine does the poblem could be that the ram is at fualt for the low bencheis i can wait for ddr2 cas 2 or 2.5 ram then ill jump on the m2 bandwagon

The benchmarks look good considering the motherboard is still in beta, and are using DDR 667. I like the power envelope getting lower and lower. 35-65 watts for a high end X2 processor is great news.

Yup, i knew that DDR2 with high latancies will actually decrease performance in most things. The DDR2 800 should at least match the AM2 socket with the 939 if not produce a performance increase of 3-4 %. Though i dunno the latencies for that kind of memory. If they end up high it will be wasted money. The price is another concern. Not all people are willing to pay +2xx$ on 1 Gb of memory.
AM2 may not be a step forward in performance but it is leap AMD were forced to take in order to ensure the chip evolution. Socket F will decide if AMD was right or wrong. Untill then,i say that Conroe will kick AMD-ish arse.

Feel a little disappoint But still hopes AMD will bring us more,not only the power consumption.

socket 754? The cpu z is gone mad...
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/0 [...] page6.html


And, just remember the initial problems with ddr 400 who arrived with CAS3.0+.....In this days is only 2.0...that will probably be the same thing with ddr2, it will arrive at a lower latency very soon...